Daft question >3500kgs in Europe

[WESTY66]

Im about to embark on my maiden >3500kgs transeurope tour (when travel permits) and just wondered what “different” bits I’ll need to take with me. I know all the document stuff, but what I’m unsure of is whether I need TWO red triangles and an orange flashing light/beacon and if so, where’s the best place to obtain one. Also is there something else I’ve forgot?

 

[Riverbankannie]

You need 2 red triangles for Spain whatever your weight - I think
Don’t forget the yellow jackets - we use bright yellow cycling jackets to double up.

 

[rosalan]

Depending on the country, they are not all the same.
Some countries want 2 triangles.
If you wear glasses you must carry a spare pair.
Almost everywhere you need a yellow jacket; each.
Fire extinguisher in some places.
First aid kit in most places.
In France and Germany there are special window stickers required if you wish to visit some cities. (Crit Aire in France) not expensive and one purchase for life.
Not essential anywhere but something to help get out of sand or mud.

 

[Sundowners]

Yellow fluorescent jacket thing for everyone in vehicle ( to be kept within reach of driver's seat)

 

[tonka]

New rule in France now over 3500kg you need "angles morte" stickers. A few threads on here about them.

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[xsparks]

Spare bulbs.

 

[bobandjanie]

New rule in France now over 3500kg you need "angles morte" stickers. A few threads on here about them.

But my advice is don't stick any on until you see a Frenchman with them. Bob.

 

[TinaLes]

New rule in France now over 3500kg you need "angles morte" stickers. A few threads on here about them.

Yea, I read that thread also, came away with the distinct impression they were needed for all vehicles over 3.5 tonne with UK number Plates, The French however will do as they like
LES.

 

[tacr2man]

In some countries you will need a transponder tag for travel on motorways , sticker will not be compliant .
over 4000kg in Germany 2 wheel chocks.

 

[Emmit]

Can't quote where or when I read it but a spare pair of specs was removed from the list needed in Spain last year.

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[Lenny HB]

New rule in France now over 3500kg you need "angles morte" stickers. A few threads on here about them.

Debatable I've seen one French site that s ays non French vehicles need them all the other sites say only for French registered vehicles.
French assume all Motorhomes are 3.5t anyway, I'm not going to bother.

 

[royw]

You actually need enough yellow jacks for the seat capacity of the vehicle not for how many are travelling

 

[Lenny HB]

You actually need enough yellow jacks for the seat capacity of the vehicle not for how many are travelling

Never heard that before.

 

[royw]

Never heard that before.

logic is ( from a senior policeman) is yes their is two of you, you pick up a friend or a hitchhiker or such to the capacity of your vehicle and break down, same as a car it has five seats potential five passengers should have five vests only two of you, go to a party give lifts back break down = illegal

 

[bobnick]

Couple of years ago the Frogs wanted you to carry a breathalyser test kit or 2. Think it died a death.

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[Lenny HB]

Couple of years ago the Frogs wanted you to carry a breathalyser test kit or 2. Think it died a death.

The law finally got quashed a couple of years ago, up until then you were required to carry them but there was no penalty if you didn't.

 

[pj650]

As far as I am aware a hi viz jacket is required only for each person or crew member travelling in the vehicle. I certainly won’t be carrying four when there only two of us in the van.
As for glasses, if you need them for driving, your licence will have code 01 in column 12. You are required to carry a spare pair. Makes sense to me.

 

[bobandjanie]

It's like when the speed stickers law came in, some couldn't wait to stick them on their motorhomes, why would you want something that means absolutely nothing in your country stuck all over your pride and joy.

If your desperate for a French sticker how about this one. Bob.

 

[sciac2001]

In Spain, I believe that the warning triangles will be phased out by 2025 and replaced by compulsory amber warning flashing lights.

The lights may already be a legal requirement now.

 

[filopastry]

But my advice is don't stick any on until you see a Frenchman with them. Bob.

Yea, I read that thread also, came away with the distinct impression they were needed for all vehicles over 3.5 tonne with UK number Plates, The French however will do as they like
LES.

Seen numerous French motorhomes and HGV's sporting the "angle mort" stickers. Wonder if following "your advice" you would offer to pay any fines incurred for following such ?

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[Lenny HB]

Can't quote where or when I read it but a spare pair of specs was removed from the list needed in Spain last year.

Not seen that but you need them for France. I always carry a spare pair & my sunglasses are varifocal.

 

[Manic]

If carry bikes on the back and going to Spain or Italy you need a striped board on the back

 

[Lenny HB]

If carry bikes on the back and going to Spain or Italy you need a striped board on the back

It needs to be an aluminium one for Italy and don't forget to turn it through 90° in the UK so the stripes point to the offside.

 

[bobandjanie]

Seen numerous French motorhomes and HGV's sporting the "angle mort" stickers. Wonder if following "your advice" you would offer to pay any fines incurred for following such ?

Maybe one translated in English would be more appropriate. Bob.

 

[Ian Bosman]

Depending on the country, they are not all the same.
Some countries want 2 triangles.
If you wear glasses you must carry a spare pair.
Almost everywhere you need a yellow jacket; each.
Fire extinguisher in some places.
First aid kit in most places.
In France and Germany there are special window stickers required if you wish to visit some cities. (Crit Aire in France) not expensive and one purchase for life.
Not essential anywhere but something to help get out of sand or mud.

German emissions sticker is also for life

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[slowdriver]

why would you want something that means absolutely nothing in your country stuck all over your pride and joy.



Because your not in "your country" perhaps?

 

[Chipster]

Did I read somewhere about wheel chocks being required? Don’t know and probably my random brain ticking away.

 

[gpat]

Some routes that are off the toll roads are limited to 3.5t. You see the signs on the motorway where a place is signed but with a 3.5t limit on the sign. Not a biggie but worth bearing in mind. Some bridges on minor routes might be limited to 3.5t and also some villages have it to keep HGVs on the trunk roads.

 

[Podney]

Can't quote where or when I read it but a spare pair of specs was removed from the list needed in Spain last year.

Nevertheless a very good idea to carry them along. Having recently lost mine whilst “hedging and ditching” in the garden recently,I was very glad of a spare set,even if they were based in an old prescription they would have been good enough for driving.

 

[deleted79651]

You need 2 red triangles for Spain whatever your weight - I think
Don’t forget the yellow jackets - we use bright yellow cycling jackets to double up.

In Spain you'll need 2 red triangles, and, if you wear specs, you should also have a spare pair with you. In France, the HiVis vests must be accessible from inside the car; most French hang them over the ba ck of the chair [unless you're off to a gilet jaune protest when you roll the Vest up into a towel roll [think swimming pool!] and wedge it in the corner of the dashboard]. And Angles Mort stickers?

Steve

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