Customs rules for the EU

[Coolcats]

Just spotted this on a Facebook site (not sure we are supposed to promote other MotorHome sites so I won't), looks like an own goal to me if true (and have no doubt it is) so if your taking goods such as Skiis Bikes Kayaks paddleboards etc etc

Goods covered by an ATA Carnet
Countries that accept an ATA Carnet

Jim quick question would it be worth having a guide to europe/foriegn travel guidance section for members ? sign posting to stuff such as Critair stickers, guidance to food you can take and these Carnet's. Sign posting so that people can make thier minds up about what they want to do.
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Seen this on Simon Calder travel web site, has anyone heard about it.
Question of the week: Customs rules for the EU?

Question: On arrival by ferry at Santander from Portsmouth, my van was checked over by customs officer and I was charged over €400 in duty for three used electric bikes that I planned to bring back after a two-week visit. The staff muttered something about “carnets”. Was I correctly fined?

Answer: That wasn't a fine – it was precisely the customs arrangement that UK ministers negotiated in the Brexit deal. Anyone taking goods in excess of €430 (£363) or more from Great Britain (but not from Northern Ireland) to the EU is required to declare them and, if necessary, pay the required tariffs. For the avoidance of doubt this is not a new European Union rule; it is simply imposing the customs regulations that the UK helped to draft while a member of the EU.

As the border officials indicated, you could have avoided the duty by paying for a customs carnet – a document listing temporary imports (including serial numbers) that is checked against the contents of your van on the way in and on the way out of the EU. Unfortunately it is an expensive and cumbersome solution.

 

[Jim]

Just spotted this on a Facebook site (not sure we are supposed to promote other MotorHome sites so I won't), looks like an own goal to me if true (and have no doubt it is) so if your taking goods such as Skiis Bikes Kayaks paddleboards etc etc

Facebook is way behind us, we put that to bed yesterday

 

[Jim]

would it be worth having a guide to europe/foriegn travel guidance section for members

I agree, a few stickies in the continental touring section would be a good idea

 

[EuroTrotters]

Just spotted this on a Facebook site (not sure we are supposed to promote other MotorHome sites so I won't), looks like an own goal to me if true (and have no doubt it is) so if your taking goods such as Skiis Bikes Kayaks paddleboards etc etc

Goods covered by an ATA Carnet
Countries that accept an ATA Carnet

Jim quick question would it be worth having a guide to europe/foriegn travel guidance section for members ? sign posting to stuff such as Critair stickers, guidance to food you can take and these Carnet's. Sign posting so that people can make thier minds up about what they want to do.
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Seen this on Simon Calder travel web site, has anyone heard about it.
Question of the week: Customs rules for the EU?

Question: On arrival by ferry at Santander from Portsmouth, my van was checked over by customs officer and I was charged over €400 in duty for three used electric bikes that I planned to bring back after a two-week visit. The staff muttered something about “carnets”. Was I correctly fined?

Answer: That wasn't a fine – it was precisely the customs arrangement that UK ministers negotiated in the Brexit deal. Anyone taking goods in excess of €430 (£363) or more from Great Britain (but not from Northern Ireland) to the EU is required to declare them and, if necessary, pay the required tariffs. For the avoidance of doubt this is not a new European Union rule; it is simply imposing the customs regulations that the UK helped to draft while a member of the EU.

As the border officials indicated, you could have avoided the duty by paying for a customs carnet – a document listing temporary imports (including serial numbers) that is checked against the contents of your van on the way in and on the way out of the EU. Unfortunately it is an expensive and cumbersome solution.

I don’t understand why they were charged for used bikes they were going to bring back with them.

 

[Coolcats]

I don’t understand why they were charged for used bikes they were going to bring back with them.

Because they did not have the Carnet

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[glenn2926]

I don’t understand why they were charged for used bikes they were going to bring back with them.

Because they might not have brought them back with them. They might have sold them.

 

[Don Quixote]

Carnet:

Take goods temporarily out of Great Britain

Take goods temporarily out of Great Britain using ATA Carnet, Returned Goods Relief, declaration by conduct, oral declaration, Duplicate Lists.

www.gov.uk

 

[John Barrett]

My new Avtex telly and sound box is worth more that. Does that mean any of us in a similar situation could be caught up in this?

 

[EuroTrotters]

Because they might not have brought them back with them. They might have sold them.

So we all need to get one then.

 

[glenn2926]

So we all need to get one then.

If it’s going to be the same as other none EU countries I would guess so. I think it’s to stop people basically running a business selling for instance bikes without paying tax etc.

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[Minxy]

There is so little info in the FB report etc that we cannot possibly know WHY the carnet was actually needed. I suspect the chap was part of a business hiring/renting bikes out, or going for a business trip/competition etc so fell under the 'business' rules, hence the need for a carnet or the no-fee but more hassle non-carnet route, neither of which he did.

 

[Speve]

Carnet:

Take goods temporarily out of Great Britain

Take goods temporarily out of Great Britain using ATA Carnet, Returned Goods Relief, declaration by conduct, oral declaration, Duplicate Lists.

www.gov.uk

Surely this requirement is for business not for holidays?
Quote from Gov.uk.site in link :
If you’re taking goods to another country temporarily for business reasons and you think you’ll be over the duty free limit, you can usually get an ATA Carnet to avoid paying duty. This includes things like:

 

[Don Quixote]

Surely this requirement is for business not for holidays?
Quote from Gov.uk.site in link :
If you’re taking goods to another country temporarily for business reasons and you think you’ll be over the duty free limit, you can usually get an ATA Carnet to avoid paying duty. This includes things like:

I don't do "Faceache" so just taking what was posted above "The staff muttered something about “carnets”" and no doubt the staff read what I/you read. I think for the next 3/5 years it is all going to be a minefield........

 

[Minxy]

I don't do "Faceache" so just taking what was posted above "The staff muttered something about “carnets”" and no doubt the staff read what I/you read. I think for the next 3/5 years it is all going to be a minefield........

Why? Goods for businesses purposes are completely different to those being used by people who are just going on holiday.

 

[599]

Because they did not have the Carnet

hi guys . Europe is a minefield of red tape & stupid rules some idiot's has dreamed up especially France . we lived in our old caravan while we renewed the farm house roof bill said its time to scrap the caravan so we took it to the local scrap yard & they said we cant take in you have no log book . anyway they took it off our hands . val

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[Don Quixote]

Why? Goods for businesses purposes are completely different to those being used by people who are just going on holiday.

I have no idea, but as I said they read the rules and apply them as they understand them or not as may be the case! and as I also said it will be like this for many years to come.