CMC attitude to Wild Camping (1 Viewer)

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Interested to note this comment from CMC on the CAMpRA Facebook page.
They appear not to understand that there are loads of places offering overnight stops, but most do not offer facilities. However, that doesn’t make it ‘Wild Camping’! The outdated attitude just reinforces their credentials as a tuggers club with little interest in touring. In return for an annual subscription, members should be allowed access to the network of service points and that shouldn’t involve staying overnight on an overpriced club site!
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tonka

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Another reason to join the CCC for some people.. (y)

 
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CAMC getting their facts wrong again wild camping in Scotland is only legal for tents not campervans or Motorhomes.
Campervans and Motorhomes require the permission of the land owner, however there are many more old roads which have been bypassed etc, that you can park up without anyone getting their nickers in a twist.
 
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another reason not to renew my membership. why can't we have a club that looks after campervans and motorhomes? I only ever use sites for a service stop and a decent shower/wash up so will try and use the independents from now on
 
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I do think it is rather short sighted of the club. There are many reasons why it would be useful and worth paying for the service at a reasonable cost. We are regularly staying in Carparks of Sailing clubs whilst we assist in running events. We are not on Mains water supply at home and therefore need to find somewhere to fill the water tank. Plus many other reasons I can't see why they couldn't offer this service to members for a small cost if they are really supporting their members. Often we do find a CL site and stay overnight on the way but that is not always possible

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Motorcaravanners club? Do they still exist?
apparently not. had high hopes for the motorhome consumer association but that seems to have died the death. given the issues we face from lack of lobby power to PR to dealer problems, etc you'd think that a club for purely self contained vans would easily be worth while. we have dozens of groups and several clubs but no influence
 

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Interested to note this comment from CMC on the CAMpRA Facebook page.
They appear not to understand that there are loads of places offering overnight stops, but most do not offer facilities. However, that doesn’t make it ‘Wild Camping’! The outdated attitude just reinforces their credentials as a tuggers club with little interest in touring. In return for an annual subscription, members should be allowed access to the network of service points and that shouldn’t involve staying overnight on an overpriced club site!
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Excellent - site users pay for these facilities.
Why should FLT's get to use them?
It's like the public walking into pubs/restaurants to use the facilities provided for the customers.
 
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Excellent - site users pay for these facilities.
Why should FLT's get to use them?
It's like the public walking into pubs/restaurants to use the facilities provided for the customers.
That is exactly how it works in some European countries.

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Excellent - site users pay for these facilities.
Why should FLT's get to use them?
It's like the public walking into pubs/restaurants to use the facilities provided for the customers.

Who said anything about FLTs unless you put CMC subscription paying members in that category? 🤷‍♂️
 
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bigtwin

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Excellent - site users pay for these facilities.
Why should FLT's get to use them?
It's like the public walking into pubs/restaurants to use the facilities provided for the customers.

They (members) would pay a fee for them, it wouldn’t be free!

It’s a nonsense that they don/won’t offer this service.

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apparently not. had high hopes for the motorhome consumer association but that seems to have died the death. given the issues we face from lack of lobby power to PR to dealer problems, etc you'd think that a club for purely self contained vans would easily be worth while. we have dozens of groups and several clubs but no influence
Aren’t the Motorcaravanners club known as the snails, if so they do exist as we were at their stall at the Lincoln show in September
 

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More than toes wet now!
Suppose the main questions would be what would the costs be to offer and administer these services and the charges to recoup these?
 

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They (members) would pay a fee for them, it wouldn’t be free!

It’s a nonsense that they don/won’t offer this service.

Ian
Would you pay a full night's pitch fee for this service?
Perhaps 20% discount
Thought not.

If there was a majority of members who wanted this service, then I'm sure the club would accommodate them - but obviously not.

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Would you pay a full night's pitch fee for this service?
Perhaps 20% discount
Thought not.

If there was a majority of members who wanted this service, then I'm sure the club would accommodate them - but obviously not.
I'm not so sure, I dont view them as a "Club" at all, they are just a business whatever they call themselves. If they are perfectly happy to let a customer stay for one night and pay the full fee but not take a reasonable fee for just a member visit for emptying/refilling that appears no more that making as much money as possible out of the member. Further, the response which said that Wild camping was illegal shows a lack of understanding of what off grid motorhoming is about. They do not mention mention Britstops or similar venues and presumably would outlaw overnight motorhomng other than on a regular camp site, preferably theirs.

I remember out first foray into Europe maybe 15 years ago. We booked sites through the so helpful "Club" for our trip and paid something well over £1200 for them. Imagine our reaction we discovered on arrival that at all, yes all, of theose sites we could have just turned up and paid a little over half or sometime less than that compared to what the "Club" charged us. It was an absolute rip off and the only reason we remained members is so we can use CL's and bearing in mind many CL owners don't ask for membership numbers, that is possibly gong to be under review.
 
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They (members) would pay a fee for them, it wouldn’t be free!

It’s a nonsense that they don/won’t offer this service.

Ian
As I posted in the thread on "Club Together" covering this issue, the name has changed to include "Motorhome" but the attitude has not unlike C&CC which doesn't have "motorhome" in the name but has a more enlightened attitude.
Like an earlier poster on this thread and many others, I only retain membership for the CL network. Given the problems with their website and consequent lack of support for CLs, I wouldn't be surprised for quite a number of those owners voting with their feet. The demise of the CAMC CL network would result in a significant drop in membership.
 

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Would you pay a full night's pitch fee for this service?
Perhaps 20% discount
Thought not.

Don’t be ridiculous. If the fee was set at an overnight pitch fee then I’d stay the night. If the C&CC can set a sensible fee for a service visit then why can’t CMC?

If there was a majority of members who wanted this service, then I'm sure the club would accommodate them - but obviously not.

They have there position, as detailed in the OP, and it has nothing to do with the needs of their members. Besides, their decisions are not based on the democratic process, they’re not set up in that manner.

Ian

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As I posted in the thread on "Club Together" covering this issue, the name has changed to include "Motorhome" but the attitude has not unlike C&CC which doesn't have "motorhome" in the name but has a more enlightened attitude.
Like an earlier poster on this thread and many others, I only retain membership for the CL network. Given the problems with their website and consequent lack of support for CLs, I wouldn't be surprised for quite a number of those owners voting with their feet. The demise of the CAMC CL network would result in a significant drop in membership.

If CL site owners leave the sponsoring club they have to find another sponsor to continue operating.

Do they all know that they can apply to MHFun? Come in Jim
 

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I read this thread to Mrs Emmit and her immediate comment was
"What about motorhome owners who live in flats"

Where would they go to empty cassettes at the end of a, shock! legitimate camping trip.

Let's see the CMC give an answer to that one.

As a visitor to sunny Spain, we have regularly noticed a continual stream of our Spanish compatriots who, as we know have many of their countrymen who live in multi occupational buildings.
 
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Excellent - site users pay for these facilities.
Why should FLT's get to use them?
It's like the public walking into pubs/restaurants to use the facilities provided for the customers.
I think many cafe, tearoom, restaurant owners will let people use the loo if they ask and if there was a scheme to offer it as a service at a charge, they would consider it. We certainly would have with our businesses. Of course it does depend on the users using the facilities respectfully. If we had a campsite and decent people ( which I find the majority of motorhomers to be) wanted to use the facilites for £7 I would happily allow most to do so.

I can't understand why more supermarkets don't offer it like some of the French Supermarkets. Wife (or Vice versa) goes and does the shopping while Husband does the tanks and fills up with Fuel. But I had a go at promoting it and met with no takers, mostly health and safety :banghead:
 

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