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[Folkranger]

Anybody got this?
Hums constantly when mains plugged in and on absorption, (possibly also on float)

 

[Silver-Fox]

What tune is it humming

Sorry

 

[kevenh]

Hum is usually from a transformer. The hum arises through the vibration caused when the load current passes through the windings.
Unless it suddenly starts it'll be an annoyance only.

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[Lenny HB]

Probably one of the chokes or transformers humming in the charger, not much can be done apart from replacing components in it.

 

[Lenny HB]

Folkranger I see you have a DL are you aware of the hinge problem?

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[Blue Knight]

I like your set-up; very impressive indeed

Until recently we had the CBE system and they can make a proper racket from new so a light hum on your system is probably a normal event.

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[Folkranger]

Probably one of the chokes or transformers humming in the charger, not much can be done apart from replacing components in it.

I can switch it to off. That stops the buzz but unfortunately also shuts off the mains feed. Should I not be able to use mains without feeding the charger? It's currently buzzing away at 100% and on float.

 

[Folkranger]

I like your set-up; very impressive indeed

Until recently we had the CBE system and they can make a proper racket from new so a light hum on your system is probably a normal event.

Helps me sleep at night, don't have that problem through the day.

 

[Lenny HB]

I can switch it to off. That stops the buzz but unfortunately also shuts off the mains feed. Should I not be able to use mains without feeding the charger? It's currently buzzing away at 100% and on float.

Worth having a word with Victron they may replace it.

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[Folkranger]

Worth having a word with Victron they may replace it.

At four years old?

 

[Raul]

It means your charger settings are a bit high, and constant charging occurs. The humming is normal, but if a little loud with little load, heat may be the cause. It should hum when 1/2-3/4 and full load, but at float small load should hardly hear it. I used to have that exactly multiplus model and mounted on rubber spacers. Your board acts like a resonator at the moment, and amplifies the hum, specially if it’s a well built enclosure .

 

[Lenny HB]

At four years old?

Worth a try.

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[Folkranger]

Folkranger I see you have a DL are you aware of the hinge problem?

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Yes lenny, I've seen your post from when you so kindly advised me when buying in July. I think mine look OK for now but please add me to your list. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Folkranger]

It means your charger settings are a bit high, and constant charging occurs. The humming is normal, but if a little loud with little load, heat may be the cause. It should hum when 1/2-3/4 and full load, but at float small load should hardly hear it. I used to have that exactly multiplus model and mounted on rubber spacers. Your board acts like a resonator at the moment, and amplifies the hum, specially if it’s a well built enclosure .

I won't pretend that I anywhere near understand the electronics in this. I checked for heat and none that can be felt by hand. I was hoping the settings would be OK as the prior owner was in the business knew what he was doing. Yes it is screwed directly to the bulkhead.

 

[Folkranger]

The plot thickens. Wife said "coffee?" I said "of course". Kettle went on, buzzing stopped. Kettle off, buzzing still off (for the moment).

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[Folkranger]

Didn't last buzzing back on. Just have to play some music.

 

[Raul]

The inverter is on a bracket like French style cleat at the top, with two screws at the bottom preventing it from lifting of the bracket. Try loosen up the bottom screws and put a paper spacer so it does not touch the board at the back. Maybe that hum is amplified by the board, or (possible) is in AES mode for power saving. When on AES the frequency is reduced to save power under a certain small load 30-40w. When the frequency is low the humming is louder.
without listening to it I can’t be certain. But worth a try with the spacer.

 

[Folkranger]

Specific question. Is there a way to switch off charging while leaving mains supply to the van?

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[Raul]

Specific question. Is there a way to switch off charging while leaving mains supply to the van?

Yes with mk3 to usb you can disable charging, or as I suggested in my first post; lower your charging parameters and reduce absorb time. If they are set by the book, are 100% to high. I live with this equipment.

 

[Otter Spotter]

Anybody got this?
Hums constantly when mains plugged in and on absorption, (possibly also on float)View attachment 530817

What are you powering with this set up, Milton Keynes ?

 

[Folkranger]

The inverter is on a bracket like French style cleat at the top, with two screws at the bottom preventing it from lifting of the bracket. Try loosen up the bottom screws and put a paper spacer so it does not touch the board at the back. Maybe that hum is amplified by the board, or (possible) is in AES mode for power saving. When on AES the frequency is reduced to save power under a certain small load 30-40w. When the frequency is low the humming is louder.
without listening to it I can’t be certain. But worth a try with the spacer.

Had to Google AES. It seems that this is over-ridden by the multi control panel.

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[Folkranger]

Yes with mk3 to usb you can disable charging, or as I suggested in my first post; lower your charging parameters and reduce absorb time. If they are set by the book, are 100% to high. I live with this equipment.

Thanks. I'll look into settings and sound deadening when home next week. In the meantime can you say how I would switch off charging? Sorry to be such a pain.

 

[Landy Andy]

The plot thickens. Wife said "coffee?" I said "of course". Kettle went on, buzzing stopped. Kettle off, buzzing still off (for the moment).

What was powering the kettle?

 

[Folkranger]

What was powering the kettle?

She was

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[Silver-Fox]

She was

Impressive, she must be a little dynamo

Any type of transformer will buzz, by nature of the way they work

 

[Folkranger]

Impressive, she must be a little dynamo

Any type of transformer will buzz, by nature of the way they work

Only if you energise it. I would have assumed that a good charging controller would not feed a full battery. Hey, but what do I know?

 

[Raul]

Thanks. I'll look into settings and sound deadening when home next week. In the meantime can you say how I would switch off charging? Sorry to be such a pain.

Without going into settings, the only way is to pull the AC in plug out, at the bottom of the inverter. That way you still retain the hook up power if is separated. If all goes through the inverter, then you loose all AC hook up. You will still have the AC out from the inverter powered by the battery.

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[Landy Andy]

What was powering the kettle?

I was just thinking that if the kettle was a 240v one, and when in use, the noise stops, is this due to the voltage dropping? Is the voltage where you are very high so the unit doesn’t like the high voltage? I’ve got some customers who’s houses are 260v so it is possible.

 

[bigalw35]

I think you’ll find the vibrations are more due to the current draw rather than the voltage drop

 

[Folkranger]

I think you’ll find the vibrations are more due to the current draw rather than the voltage drop

Strange thing is we've been away 3 weeks and had occasional buzz as you'd expect then 2 days of near constant buzz.

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