Cat 1 Alarm question. (1 Viewer)

[Norman Jones]

New Mercedes 319 based Hymer.
Would the standard alarm be Thatcham Cat 1 ?
There is no mention in the spec or extras list.

 

[Jaws]

Highly unlikely unless the supplying dealer is a Thatcham registered installer.
Any Thatcham approved alarm system is supplied with a certificate of installation with a registration number on it

 

[Norman Jones]

Seems bonkers that insurance companies insist on it yet dealers sell new vans without it even being an option.

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[Lenny HB]

If it is a factory fit unlikely to be recognised by Thatcham, you can pay £700-£1000 for a Motorhome converters alarm option but your insurance company won't accept it as it's not Thatcham approved.

 

[JimJams]

If it is a Factory fit alarm by Hymer in Germany (I'm not even sure if they do install alarms at the factory??) then it will not be recognised as a Thatcham product I'm afraid. Its exactly the same with Cathargo as we have removed or isolated many of their systems in the past to be replaced

 

[Poohbear]

Why is that the case? Car manufacturers fit Thatcham Cat 1 alarms as standard equipment. We have one on our Mazda 2. You don't get a certificate of installation for it either.

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[JimJams]

The immobilisation installed by Mercedes however completely complies with Thatcham so there would be no need for an additional after market immobiliser to be added with an alarm system. PM me if you need any further literature?

 

[Norman Jones]

After many phone calls, we have found that insurance companies that will give cover using the VIN number want Thatcham 1, which just ain't possible from Belgium, and there's a long wait in this country. So the only answer is to drive it home on the transit plates and insure it with a company that doesn't require Cat 1 as soon as it's registered with UK plates, and if the boat sinks... hell, I'll go down with it!

 

[Jaws]

Why is that the case? Car manufacturers fit Thatcham Cat 1 alarms as standard equipment. We have one on our Mazda 2. You don't get a certificate of installation for it either.

I have recently seen a couple of vehicles that are advertised as being Thatcham cat 2 or above compliant
No names no pack drill but upon investigation I found they were only Thatcham compatible ( which could mean anything )
If your vehicle is Thatcham compliant you can apply directly to Thatcham and get it certified..

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[Norman Jones]

Now that's interesting...
Norm

 

[Deleted member 29692]

I have recently seen a couple of vehicles that are advertised as being Thatcham cat 2 or above compliant
No names no pack drill but upon investigation I found they were only Thatcham compatible ( which could mean anything )
If your vehicle is Thatcham compliant you can apply directly to Thatcham and get it certified..

Cat 2 is the immobiliser not an alarm.

The factory fit immobiliser on almost all new vehicles is Cat 2.

 

[Jaws]

Cat 2 is the immobiliser not an alarm.

The factory fit immobiliser on almost all new vehicles is Cat 2.

Nooo.. it is usually only cat 2 compatible Nick

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[Deleted member 29692]

Nooo.. it is usually only cat 2 compatible Nick

Ahh OK. Insurance companies seem to accept it as proper Cat 2 though.

 

[Jaws]

And bottom line is, that is plenty good enough

 

[Norman Jones]

Good enough for me, but not the insurance companies, they demand details of the fitting in 14 days.

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[Deleted member 29692]

Good enough for me, but not the insurance companies, they demand details of the fitting in 14 days.

Because they are asking for Cat 1 which is an alarm. Cat 2 is immobiliser only.

 

[Norman Jones]

Couldn't find anyone in Wales,
so BSWC from Birmingham came out to Salop Vans in Newtown and fitted a Cobra A4615P(MH) very efficiently.
Their number is: 01902 403172.

 

[Norman Jones]

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[Norman Jones]

At last, home and waiting for DVLA>