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[Jackd]

Hi
We have recently purchased a 2015 C tourer 150 A class.
Can somebody with in in depth knowledge, confirm what the sides are made from. “GRP & timber” or the “Ali sandwich.”
I can’t find a 2015 brochure anywhere. Southdowns go back as far 16 but not 15.
I don’t suppose anyone has one?
Many thanks in advance.

 

[Pausim]

This 2014 review refers to the “double aluminium skin construction.”

2014 Carthago Chic C-line XL 5.5 LE motorhome review: Pay your money, make your choices

Premium motorhome with a bit of individuality - the Carthago Chic C-Line XL offers superb accommodation for the discerning motorhomer.

www.caravanguard.co.uk

 

[Wagoneer]

I thought all recent Carthago's had aluminium sandwich construction. My 2010 Chic has.

If you remove a kitchen draw you'll be able to see the "uncarpeted" surface of the inner wall. Tap the surface to check if it's aluminium or plywood.

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[Jackd]

This 2014 review refers to the “double aluminium skin construction.”

2014 Carthago Chic C-line XL 5.5 LE motorhome review: Pay your money, make your choices

Premium motorhome with a bit of individuality - the Carthago Chic C-Line XL offers superb accommodation for the discerning motorhomer.

www.caravanguard.co.uk

Yeah, I have seen that, but the van being reviewed is considerably further up the ladder than ours. I’m hoping that we are Aluminium, but.........

 

[Clarky]

As far as I'm aware all Carthago's are aluminium sandwich construction.
I've just had a search through my computer files because I knew I had downloaded a Carthago brochure from 2013 but it is only for the Chic range and doesn't cover the C Tourer.
As Wagoneer advises, check somewhere inside a cabinet where the walls are unlined.

Richard.

 

[CazPaul]

I think they have been double aluminium construction for over 20 years now, same as Concorde, late 90s they changed to no timber construction.

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[Jackd]

I think they have been double aluminium construction for over 20 years now, same as Concorde, late 90s they changed to no timber construction.

I hope this is the case as we’ve just come from a damp British van.
I was worried because we are at the cheaper end of the brand, and you know how manufacturers like to save.

 

[Clarky]

I hope this is the case as we’ve just come from a damp British van.
I was worried because we are at the cheaper end of the brand, and you know how manufacturers like to save.

Is anything with the Carthago name on cheap?
If there is I’m yet to find it.

Richard……a happy but impoverished Carthago owner.

 

[Jackd]

Is anything with the Carthago name on cheap?
If there is I’m yet to find it.

Richard……a happy but impoverished Carthago owner.

Especially in the current “bubble” that all the dealers are enjoying!

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[Solwaybuggier]

Think I’ve got a 2015 brochure at home - but we won’t be there for another 3 weeks. I think the Chic C is only next model up from C Tourer, certainly as a C class (not sure where you would put the CCompact in A classes) but I’m pretty certain our 2015 C Tourer C class is timber-free & sandwich construction.

 

[Jackd]

I thought all recent Carthago's had aluminium sandwich construction. My 2010 Chic has.

If you remove a kitchen draw you'll be able to see the "uncarpeted" surface of the inner wall. Tap the surface to check if it's aluminium or plywood.

My only problem with this is that we don’t collect the new van until the 28th.

Perhaps there is somebody on here with similar model and vintage or older who can confirm one way or the other.
Or even a dealer in the know.

 

[wiljoy]

I've a 2013 i140, same as yours but different layout. Aluminum sandwich construction with NO timber. Brilliant construction but the same crap third party fittings. Careful with the waste water drain handle as it is happy to snap easily. Check for water ingress to the garage double floor area and keep an eye on the push fit water connectors which sometimes pop off. Not our best van but very acceptable.

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[Lenny HB]

The C tourer like all Carthago's both the outer & inner walls are aluminium and the roof is GRP.

 

[Dorset Diver]

I've been to the factory. They make the walls and much else on site. The walls are definitely alloy skins, inner and outer, filled with high density foam.

Another happy but impoverished Carthago owner .

 

[Pausim]

If you look up Carthago’s history you will find that in 2013 Carthago were the first motorhome manufacturer to receive TÜV certification for wood free cabin construction.

History

Dive into Carthago's history and discover our journey from the past to the present. Explore our milestones and the evolution of our motorhome craftsmanship.

www.carthago.com

It says.
“Carthago is the first motor home maker to receive a TÜV certificate for wood-free motor home cabins. "Without wood or timber products," certified by TÜV South. The experts of the certifying authority have very carefully inspected the production in all factories and the cabins of all our motor home models.”

There is no reason to think that your Carthago is any different, it says all models.

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[Jackd]

Music to my ears. Thank you all very much.

 

[CazPaul]

This is our Conc

If you look up Carthago’s history you will find that in 2013 Carthago were the first motorhome manufacturer to receive TÜV certification for wood free cabin construction.

History

Dive into Carthago's history and discover our journey from the past to the present. Explore our milestones and the evolution of our motorhome craftsmanship.

www.carthago.com

It says.
“Carthago is the first motor home maker to receive a TÜV certificate for wood-free motor home cabins. "Without wood or timber products," certified by TÜV South. The experts of the certifying authority have very carefully inspected the production in all factories and the cabins of all our motor home models.”

There is no reason to think that your Carthago is any different, it says all models.

This is our Concorde brochure from March 2005 so not sure about that claim. Maybe the first to receive the certificate but certainly not the only one.

 

[Pausim]

This is our Conc

This is our Concorde brochure from March 2005 so not sure about that claim. Maybe the first to receive the certificate but certainly not the only one.

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Perhaps Concorde used wood elsewhere in their construction or didn’t use the new materials across their whole range?

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[CazPaul]

Perhaps Concorde used wood elsewhere in their construction or didn’t use the new materials across their whole range?

A big selling point in the brochure is totally timber free construction, this has been since 1997/1998 year so a long, long time. This includes the underfloor and everywhere else. You can see from the 2005 brochure no timber and as I say they make a big point of it.

 

[Pausim]

A big selling point in the brochure is totally timber free construction, this has been since 1997/1998 year so a long, long time. This includes the underfloor and everywhere else. You can see from the 2005 brochure no timber and as I say they make a big point of it.

They certainly seem to have got there before Carthago. I guess getting certification is optional and they didn’t need it.

 

[CazPaul]

They certainly seem to have got there before Carthago. I guess getting certification is optional and they didn’t need it.

Carthago got there well before 2013 though as well I believe, I have seen some of their older vans, early 2000s A classes, absolute quality they are and I’m sure they are totally timber free too, although I don’t have the documentation for them.
I think the documentation doesn’t mean that the Carthago prior to 2013 had timber in the construction just that’s when it was officially presented to them.

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[two]

Rest assured that there is no wood. It's an aluminium 'sandwich'. The bit in the middle is high density foam where they plan to screw stuff to it or cut through for openings, and lighter density everywhere else to save weight. The cabinetwork is also machined-away where thickness is not required for strength or appearance.