Carrying bikes in France

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  1. SteveG

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    hi all and Happy Easter

    Off to France next month and going to be carrying 2 bikes on the rack on the van, I've seen quite a few vans with a reflective squares when doing so.

    Is this a requirement in France?
    Thanks in anticipation
    Steve
     
  2. Chipster

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    Only for Italy IIRC.
     
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    Make sure you bikes are left hand drive too!:)
     
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  4. SteveG

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    Never thought of that jonandshell, I'll adjust them before we go
     
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  5. Techno

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    France no
    Italy Spain yes
     
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    You'll need a GB sticker for both of them as well, Have a great trip
     
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    does no harm having one.. wherever you travel..
     
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    That's the best advice, ie, from Jim above

    I never have the bikes on the back without the Red/White marker board, and it's correct alignment is relative to which side of the water you are driving on. ;)

    AFAIK, Italy require a metal board, whereas other EU countries only require a plastic board.

    Cheers,

    Jock.
     
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    Good for road safety,,,makes back of your van much more visible ....use mine everywhere ,,,BUSBY
     
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  10. MikeandCarolyn

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    Bikes on-marker board on. Wherever we are.(y)
     
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    Do you need the marker board if you have no bikes on and the rack is folded up?
     
  12. Techno

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    No it is not protruding far enough from the van rear wall to be of any consideration
     
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    Spain legally requires a metal board.
    Just to be slightly pedantic but the 53cm square hatched red/white with 4 reflectors that we are all extolling the virtues of are , in fact , not the correct marker board under EU rules . This board is meant for denoting OVERHANGING loads , i.e. steel on lorries or items extending past the rear on a roof rack or trailer etc. This is why the Spanish & Italians insist on steel boards that cannot be degraded by sun /wind, or damaged by overhanging trees ,etc.

    The actual marker board that is meant to be used for, fixed extensions to the vehicles overall length i.e. bike racks, tow bar mounted racks, rear lockers,extendable m/c racks ,etc; is still red/white crosshatch but is 20cm in height & somewhere around 1,44m width. The is is to ensure that it covers the majority of the width of vehicle.

    You do here.
    The manufacturers length, width ,height are on the log book & any additions have to be homologated & the bike rack, which I have but never use requires a Board even when not in use as it is deemed to be a " fixed extension "to the vehicles length. Foreign vehicles would be treated the same by a Trafico GC with the hump.
    Anything overhanging a roof rack to the rear without a board would be a fine as well.
     
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    From Caravan club

    Carriage of bicycles
    Bicycles may usually be carried on the roof of a car, provided they are attached to an adequate roof-rack and the total height does not exceed 4m. However, the cross-Channel operator will need to be advised in advance of the total height of the vehicle as this may affect the cost of your crossing.

    Bikes can also be transported at the back of a vehicle provided they do not obscure lights, indicators or number plates. Bike racks can only rest on the tow bar if the maximum weight allowed on the tow bar is not exceeded.

    Portuguese regulations stipulate that bicycles may not be carried at the rear of a car, but they can be carried at the rear of a motorhome or caravan, provided that they do not extend beyond the width of the vehicle or more than 45cm beyond its length.

    In Spain and Italy any overhanging loads must be indicated by a square panel measuring 50cm x 50cm with reflectorised red and white diagonal stripes which can be purchased from Fiamma stockists (www.fiamma.com). Panels are available in aluminium and plastic and in Spain you can use either however, in Italy the panel must be aluminium.
     
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    Worth mentioning these rules are not confined to bikes, but anything which protrudes from the rear, particularly back boxes.

    Having said that no one arrested me in Spain last year - but I have now got a plastic panel for our box.
     
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    My
    http://www.johnscross.co.uk/products/fiamma-carry-bike-auto-trail.html

    sticks out 350mm when folded up .It legally requires a board as although it is homologated & on the registration document it is not part of the original vehicle & is an" extension to the vehicles constructed length"

    That rules out all the Fiamma racks as most extend the length between 58 & 65 cms.
     
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    So realistically if you're not going to put bikes on it it would make sense to remove two bolts and unhook it rather than cart it around Europe :LOL:
     
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    Seconded.(y)
     
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    Ever practical.................:D:D(y)
     
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