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Do the Camping and Caravanning club overdo the application of their rules ?

Last year we stayed on a C&C Club site on Skye, the warden insisted he watched and instructed every turn of my steering wheel to make sure my "side pods" :ROFLMAO: did not overhang the grass.
He then watched some campers erect their tents opposite where we were. When they were up, the warden then asked them to take it down and move it a foot further away from the neighbouring tent :Doh:

We are now on a C&CClub site in Derbyshire and when booking by phone was asked the length, 8.5 m , at which time I was asked to wait while they checked if their was a plot on "the grid" big enough. Yes, but have you got slideouts, yes, how wide are you with them out, 2.7 m think that will be ok. So we booked.
This is a large very spacious site where almost every pitch would accept a 10m unit
On arrival the wardens were excellent, friendly etc :thumb: but still assisted in getting us pitched and perfectly placed.

I have driven and pitched this tiddly RV throughout the UK and also in Europe and ONLY the C&CClub find it necessary to give me this degree of assistance in pitching, the rest normally say " find a pitch and let us know"

BTW others in Eurovans also received similar attentions :RollEyes:

Is this over friendly by the "friendly club" ??
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Do the Camping and Caravanning club overdo the application of their rules ?

Last year we stayed on a C&C Club site on Skye, the warden insisted he watched and instructed every turn of my steering wheel to make sure my "side pods" :ROFLMAO: did not overhang the grass.
He then watched some campers erect their tents opposite where we were. When they were up, the warden then asked them to take it down and move it a foot further away from the neighbouring tent :Doh:

We are now on a C&CClub site in Derbyshire and when booking by phone was asked the length, 8.5 m , at which time I was asked to wait while they checked if their was a plot on "the grid" big enough. Yes, but have you got slideouts, yes, how wide are you with them out, 2.7 m think that will be ok. So we booked.
This is a large very spacious site where almost every pitch would accept a 10m unit
On arrival the wardens were excellent, friendly etc :thumb: but still assisted in getting us pitched and perfectly placed.

I have driven and pitched this tiddly RV throughout the UK and also in Europe and ONLY the C&CClub find it necessary to give me this degree of assistance in pitching, the rest normally say " find a pitch and let us know"

BTW others in Eurovans also received similar attentions :RollEyes:

Is this over friendly by the "friendly club" ??
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Caravan Club warden was a jobs worth it appears but the C&CC warden where you are now you say was excellent and friendly and assisted in getting you pitched. I really can't see a problem with that. So to answer your question in a word, "No"
 

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There have been "interesting" discussions on the Caravan Club forum about the new pitching rules recently.

All clubs have their rules and even if we might think they are senseless those who implemented them take the opposite view (and they are as entitled to their view as we are). We also, as members, have the right to attend meetings and try to get any rules we disagree with changed (and also to lodge complaints against any employees we believe are over-zealous).

The answer is simple really. We either join the club and put up with the rules or we leave the club.

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Caravan Club warden was a jobs worth it appears but the C&CC warden where you are now you say was excellent and friendly and assisted in getting you pitched. I really can't see a problem with that. So to answer your question in a word, "No"

As I posted, anywhere else they allow and trust drivers to manoeuvre their own vehicle without " watching and suggesting every turn of the wheel of a vehicle they have never driven.
I wondered why the C&CClub need to be different, :Doh:
 
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As I posted, anywhere else they allow and trust drivers to manoeuvre their own vehicle without " watching and suggesting every turn of the wheel of a vehicle they have never driven.
I wondered why the C&CClub need to be different, :Doh:

They claim to be the friendly club, I suppose they think they should demonstrate that to their customers.
 
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There have been "interesting" discussions on the Caravan Club forum about the new pitching rules recently.

All clubs have their rules and even if we might think they are senseless those who implemented them take the opposite view (and they are as entitled to their view as we are). We also, as members, have the right to attend meetings and try to get any rules we disagree with changed (and also to lodge complaints against any employees we believe are over-zealous).

The answer is simple really. We either join the club and put up with the rules or we leave the club.

I agree Graham, but I don't know about you but if a warden or anyone tells me how to drive , I might be inclined to suggest an exit strategy for him :Angry:

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We were at the C&CC site in Oban (actually at Barcaldine) recently and the subject of the Skye site was mentioned by another camper - quite unprompted. Skye is a franchised rather than a Club-owned site and apparently there have been several comments about the 'regimental' nature of the official concerned, even making the news at the annual club conference. I understand that there has been a change of site personnel following the discussion.

p.s. lovely team at the Oban site - very friendly and helpful. It's a small but very nice site.
 
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They claim to be the friendly club, I suppose they think they should demonstrate that to their customers.

By instructing them how to drive their own vehicle :RollEyes:

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The problem is, I think, that like many things in life we end up working to the lowest denominater. Having just spent several weeks on Camping & Caravanning Club sites, I am amazed and appalled at the driving ability of some Tuggers and Motorhome owners.

I watched people drive over concrete kerbs because they couldnt get around the corners, people completely incapable of getting their unit on to the hardstand, and one motorhomer at Minehead, who changed to a grass pitch because he couldnt back his SWB transit conversion on to a hardstand.

Of course there are many who are more than capable of parking up their vehicle, but the staff don,t know that!

I suspect if driving standards drop much lower, they will have staff that park our vehicles for us.::bigsmile:
 

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I am on the C&CC site at Devizes and find the way the warden accompanies you to the pitch and sees you in really helpful. I'm on my own and a bit nervous reversing onto a pitch so always find it helpful, never had a problem.

Last week I was at C&CC in the New Forest and it was "here's a map, find your pitch" I couldn't find one on the colour I'd paid for, and there were lots of quite small, unaccompanied kids either running about or riding bikes. I was so stressed I ended up in the wrong area, on a top price pitch when I should have had the middle one ( their signing isn't great either) wasn't going to negotiate round the kids again so stayed put. Thought it would be easier to pay the difference if asked to.
 
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I was on the CCC at Devizes a few weeks ago , after settling in, I started to wash off the dead flies off the front of the van , very soon after starting the warden approached me waving his arms in the air stating your not allowed to wash your van. I informed him I was washing off the dead flies only , he then told me I could clean the windows, lights & mirrors only . I truely did want to tell him where to go but we had friends arriving the next day . I did continue and cleaned what I wanted to clean. :winky: Why you cant wash your van I do not know, I havent come across this on the CC site.

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I was on the CCC at Devizes a few weeks ago , after settling in, I started to wash off the dead flies off the front of the van , very soon after starting the warden approached me waving his arms in the air stating your not allowed to wash your van. I informed him I was washing off the dead flies only , he then told me I could clean the windows, lights & mirrors only . I truely did want to tell him where to go but we had friends arriving the next day . I did continue and cleaned what I wanted to clean. :winky: Why you cant wash your van I do not know, I havent come across this on the CC site.

I can beat any for the jobs worthies I was like you removing dead insects of thd front of my motorhome. Told I was to stop at once
Not allowd to clean vehicles on site
I pointed out I was using no water. Cleaning & polishing solution
No water no hose pipe No bucket

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The club rules no washing of vans on site
Crazy I know
But rules are rules
No matter how stupid they are
Gone are the days where common sense is used
Mindless morons running sites like a natzi commandant
God help us for thd future I use Cls now I try to keep away from main sites in both clubs. As they are now as bad as each other
 

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You have to be a wee bit sympathetic to the poor site wardens especially when you remember that possibly 10% of the customers, and maybe more, are complete and utter pratts.

The rule now installed regarding parking to the post is absolutely essential to prevent the pratts from parking where they feel fit regardless of the sites insurance policy.

How many times have we seen campers park so they can put their awnings on the grass when instuctions say remain within the hard standing, how many times have we seen campersr stick their washing within the boundaries of our pitch and the most annoying is when next door ties up three dogs that can reach our doorway.

Sorry it is as always will be rules have to be made to counteract the selfish behaviour of a small percentage that stuff it up for the majority that are very aware of their actions upon others

If you happen to find a warden that is a little Hitler towards you then ask the question

ARE YOU BEING A PRATT as we have never found one yet
 

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We stayed at the Caravan Club sit on Uttoxeter Racecourse last weekend.

Their rules state that you motorhome or caravan must be reversed so that the pitch peg is on the rear nearside corner.

This would have been fine but caravans then have to put their awnings up on one side of the caravan and park their car on the other side.

This left us with no room to put up the awning on our motorhome although we had a huge, wasted space on the other side of us!

The kind caravan owner negotiated with his neighbour on the other side to park his car next to his awning but could easily have fallen foul of 'The Rules' by doing so.

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We stayed at the Caravan Club sit on Uttoxeter Racecourse last weekend.

Their rules state that you motorhome or caravan must be reversed so that the pitch peg is on the rear nearside corner.

This would have been fine but caravans then have to put their awnings up on one side of the caravan and park their car on the other side.

This left us with no room to put up the awning on our motorhome although we had a huge, wasted space on the other side of us!

The kind caravan owner negotiated with his neighbour on the other side to park his car next to his awning but could easily have fallen foul of 'The Rules' by doing so.

Seems simple surely to allow motorhomes to park as close as possible to side of pitch and caravans to site as per peg on nearside corner. Is that difficult?

Rob
 

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We stayed at the Caravan Club sit on Uttoxeter Racecourse last weekend.

Their rules state that you motorhome or caravan must be reversed so that the pitch peg is on the rear nearside corner.

This would have been fine but caravans then have to put their awnings up on one side of the caravan and park their car on the other side.

This left us with no room to put up the awning on our motorhome although we had a huge, wasted space on the other side of us!

The kind caravan owner negotiated with his neighbour on the other side to park his car next to his awning but could easily have fallen foul of 'The Rules' by doing so.
From posts on the CC forum it appears that the explanation to site wardens of the revised pitching rules has left something to be desired. Apparently new instructions have just been sent out allowing flexibility so long as the 6m minimum spacing between adjacent caravan/motorhome walls is maintained.
 

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We have been on several club sites recently and common sense does prevail-----it is either nearside front to the peg or offside rear to the peg

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From posts on the CC forum it appears that the explanation to site wardens of the revised pitching rules has left something to be desired. Apparently new instructions have just been sent out allowing flexibility so long as the 6m minimum spacing between adjacent caravan/motorhome walls is maintained.

Sounds like common sense, not something I have previously associated with either of the businesses (not clubs) that run camp sites.

A search on the meaning of club brought up the following:

Noun
An association dedicated to a particular interest or activity.
A heavy stick with a thick end, esp. one used as a weapon :Eeek:
 
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We stayed at the site on Skye last year and the wardens seemed really helpful and genuine. I have also stayed on another site , when we were tuggers, that a little old lady got on a bike and led you to your pitch. She then instructed me through every inch of manoeuvre onto the pitch. And it was inch perfect. I felt a bit put out at first but then realised she had reversed me perfectly. I could have done it myself but may have taken a couple of goes but how many people turn up that can't revers? Some people are genuinely helpful.:Smile::Smile:
 

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My gripe is when you turn up at sites or shows you find both tuggers and motorhomes who insist on laying out their pitch with extended awnings then wind breaks to announce this is their pitch and they will use all of it.

I don't mind being told where to park but at then end of the day the wardens will not be insured if you crash under their supervision. If they take charge of your reversing then they will be liable I would think.

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we had a nightmare warden on the cc site at cherry hinton near cambridge

we pitched up as requested and had a quiet couple of days, then i had a couple of days in hospital, leaving the wife on site alone with the dogs. my hospital stay coincided with a change of wardens and new tugger as a next door neighbour.

the next morning the PITA warden approached the wife to say the van was 5 inches too close to the caravan, and as they had an awning up by now and we were on levellers, she should move our van. the wife explained that although she had driven the van once before, she was not proficient with using the levelling ramps. PITA conceded that it could stay like that temporarily, but if anyone complained or if they were inspected she would then have to move

just when you dont need that sort of sh!te, and are worrying about your spouse in hospital these PITA wardens seem to find something to trouble you

guess where we wont be using again
 

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My gripe is when you turn up at sites or shows you find both tuggers and motorhomes who insist on laying out their pitch with extended awnings then wind breaks to announce this is their pitch and they will use all of it.

I don't mind being told where to park but at then end of the day the wardens will not be insured if you crash under their supervision. [HI]If they take charge of your reversing then they will be liable I would think[/HI].

No the driver is fully responsible for what they do with the vehicle. the onus is on you to make sure its safe to maneuver
 
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The money they charge to tell you what to do, I don't know why you bother with them.

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Do the Camping and Caravanning club overdo the application of their rules ?

Last year we stayed on a C&C Club site on Skye, the warden insisted he watched and instructed every turn of my steering wheel to make sure my "side pods" :ROFLMAO: did not overhang the grass.
He then watched some campers erect their tents opposite where we were. When they were up, the warden then asked them to take it down and move it a foot further away from the neighbouring tent :Doh:

We are now on a C&CClub site in Derbyshire and when booking by phone was asked the length, 8.5 m , at which time I was asked to wait while they checked if their was a plot on "the grid" big enough. Yes, but have you got slideouts, yes, how wide are you with them out, 2.7 m think that will be ok. So we booked.
This is a large very spacious site where almost every pitch would accept a 10m unit
On arrival the wardens were excellent, friendly etc :thumb: but still assisted in getting us pitched and perfectly placed.

I have driven and pitched this tiddly RV throughout the UK and also in Europe and ONLY the C&CClub find it necessary to give me this degree of assistance in pitching, the rest normally say " find a pitch and let us know"

BTW others in Eurovans also received similar attentions :RollEyes:

Is this over friendly by the "friendly club" ??
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Ive just got back from a ten day mini tour staying on various sites some that let you pitch up where you may and I can only say some "campers" literally do just that not showing one one bit of courtesy to other people. The the last site we stopped on was the C&CC Oxford well maintained and well managed as you say they are "Fussy" but it's a small price to pay,rather that than some prat parked bonnet to bonnet so they get a better view of whatever
 
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Very few club sites have decent views.On Club sites, I have been 'told' to pitch 'to the peg' which has meant that I can't use my awning and lose the benefit.
When will they realise that not all vehicles are the same. I have seen them pitch continental caravans 'the wrong way 'round',but then we're only motorhomes! Who have to pay for our toad while tuggers don't,so what's the difference?
 

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