Cadac gas pressure?

[acropolis22]

Thinking about buying the Cadac 2-Cook Pro Deluxe BBQ. (I know it's not a true BBQ.........)

I will be running it off an external gas point already fitted. My bulkhead regulator is 30 mB. I'm a bit confused by the specs shown in the two attached photos. The appliance inside the box, according to the tick on the box is for Butane or Propane, or a mixture, apparently at 37 mB. The model chart also on the box appears to state that for GB it needs 28-30 mB, unless it's Propane when it's 37 mB. Seems to contradict itself? Are these maximum pressures? Will it be OK on my 30 mB supply, or should I be looking for another model of the same BBQ. On the box, they are all shown as model 202P1....... None of the ads I've looked at online even specify what I would be getting, so is it not crucial? No idea about this stuff, as you can guess.

Edit: The Cadac website quotes "Average operating pressure: 28-37mBar".

 

[Ingwe]

Hiya, I’m from the land of the braai (bbq) and the Cadac.

We’ve got the Cadac Safari Chef 2 which describes itself as low pressure and it works on both our van’s 30mB external bbq and also from a gas bottle (either propane or butane) with a bottle regulator. This is from the Cadac Q&A. Hope this helps.

FAQ | Difference between a HP and LP barbecue

HP means High Pressure and a HP barbecue works directly off a gas cartridge. Low Pressure (LP) barbecues work off a gas cylinder or Power Pak and can be connected with a regulator & hose.

www.cadacinternational.com

Edit: as I understand it, to be lawful in the UK a gas bottle (either butane or propane) has to be between 28-37mBs. So running it from your van bbq point at 30mBs is fine. I’m sure someone will be along with the definitive answer.

 

[pappajohn]

HP is fed at unregulated bottle pressure to an inbuilt (on the BBQ) regulator

LP is regulated pressure from a remote (onboard or bottle top) regulator.

 

[acropolis22]

I get the difference between LP and HP, but I'm just not sure about the range of figures being quoted. So it seems that the BBQ will work on a range of pressures, between 28 and 37 mB, and it should be fine with my onboard regulator at 30 mB? Have I got that right?

 

[Ingwe]

I get the difference between LP and HP, but I'm just not sure about the range of figures being quoted. So it seems that the BBQ will work on a range of pressures, between 28 and 37 mB, and it should be fine with my onboard regulator at 30 mB? Have I got that right?

I believe you’re correct.

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[mitzimad]

I get the difference between LP and HP, but I'm just not sure about the range of figures being quoted. So it seems that the BBQ will work on a range of pressures, between 28 and 37 mB, and it should be fine with my onboard regulator at 30 mB? Have I got that right?

yes previously butane was 28 and propane 37 they harmonised it a while back so everything runs on 30mb ive got that two burner and it runs fine on bbq point bit susceptible to wind though shame they didnt put fold out windshields in the lid

 

[Ingwe]

yes previously butane was 28 and propane 37 they harmonised it a while back so everything runs on 30mb ive got that two burner and it runs fine on bbq point bit susceptible to wind though shame they didnt put fold out windshields in the lid

We’ve also got the 2 burner model and it works fine. We’ve found that if the wind affects the flame, physically turning the cadac away from the wind or moving into the van’s shelter solves this.

 

[acropolis22]

Well, learnt something new again today. Thanks everyone, I'll be picking one up later today.

 

[Ingwe]

Well, learnt something new again today. Thanks everyone, I'll be picking one up later today.

Good luck! We used ours last night and even though it’s not the same as a charcoal braai, the sausages (Lincolnshire finest pork) taste better to us than when grilled or fried on a cooker. Enjoy.

 

[acropolis22]

Good luck! We used ours last night and even though it’s not the same as a charcoal braai, the sausages (Lincolnshire finest pork) taste better to us than when grilled or fried on a cooker. Enjoy.

Must be the fresh air! I am now the proud owner of a Cadac 2 Cook. It will be coming with us on our next trip. (Spain in September). I would probably always favour charcoal if we had a house and could store charcoal in the garage and never run out. But it's just a bit of a chore having to buy charcoal and store it in the motorhome. With the Cadac, we will always be able to spring into action at a moments notice.

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[Jo662]

yes previously butane was 28 and propane 37 they harmonised it a while back so everything runs on 30mb ive got that two burner and it runs fine on bbq point bit susceptible to wind though shame they didnt put fold out windshields in the lid

Yes are's works fine, but like you say needs the fold out windshields and it would be perfect imo

 

[acropolis22]

One last question. Is there any reason why I cannot simply unscrew the fitting that is currently attached to the grill and replace it with the quick release fitting also shown in the photo below?

 

[RM_Marine]

No reason at all any you cant change it, I've done it with every cadac (safari) and webbers (2000&3000) series I own and they work perfectly fine

The quick release also has a auto stop on them so you don't have to worry about forgetting to turn the gas off at the bottle or from the bbq point on the van

 

[acropolis22]

No reason at all ans I've done it with every cadac and webber I own

Cheers. For some reason, I can't see your whole answer. But I got the picture.

 

[Two on Tour]

One last question. Is there any reason why I cannot simply unscrew the fitting that is currently attached to the grill and replace it with the quick release fitting also shown in the photo below?

Simply remove the supplied fitting and screw on the quick release version.

I went for the 90 degree version, plus the 90degree section swivels.

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[acropolis22]

Is this just a dry screw on procedure, or does it need some kind of plumber's paste or PTFE tape?

 

[Two on Tour]

Is this just a dry screw on procedure, or does it need some kind of plumber's paste or PTFE tape?

I used PTFE tape on mine.

 

[Carolyn and Kev]

We’ve also got the 2 burner model and it works fine. We’ve found that if the wind affects the flame, physically turning the cadac away from the wind or moving into the van’s shelter solves this.

Get the wind deflector from the local caravan shop. Its only a 3 piece tin shield but works really well. We have the Same model but purchased the shield at £15 in Woolacombe...Nearly beats a wind break! Lol

. Kev

 

[Ingwe]

I used PTFE tape on min

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[Orion]

The appliance category for the 202P1 Cadac for the GB market of I 3+ (28-30/37) indicates that it is designed to work on either a butane supply at 28-30mb or a propane supply at 37mb.

The 202P1 mainly for the Scandinavian region is rated for I 3BP (30) and designed to operate on both butane and propane supplied at 30mb, so would be ideally suited for running from a MoHo bbq point.

Will the former work at 30mb propane - yes it will, but bear in mind that you have a reduction in supply pressure of circa 19% so it’s not going be as efficient. Luckily not usually a problem in warm weather when we are more likely to be using a bbq, but probably noticeable if it’s cold out.

Here’s the Data Plate on my Napoleon BBQ and you can see that it’s the GB model for the 30mb butane or propane supply. The next unchecked section lists another GB model for 28-30mb butane or 37mb propane.

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[mitzimad]

ive got a hose with the bbq point one end and a handturn connector on the other

 

[mitzimad]

I used PTFE tape on mine.

doesnt need any tape its a metal to metal seating the nut just holds the two pieces tight together the threads on the nut are not part of the seal

 

[Basildog]

doesnt need any tape its a metal to metal seating the nut just holds the two pieces tight together the threads on the nut are not part of the seal

PTFE tape and sealants are the bane of our lives .
Silicone Bob and his band of YouTube experts collectively known as the PTFE Bandits
Tape and sealants used in the wrong type of joints is actually more likely to cause a leak or disguise a bad joint for a while

 

[Two on Tour]

PTFE tape and sealants are the bane of our lives .
Silicone Bob and his band of YouTube experts collectively known as the PTFE Bandits
Tape and sealants used in the wrong type of joints is actually more likely to cause a leak or disguise a bad joint for a while

Looks like I fell into the trap of thinking that PTFE tape for gas was the stuff to use as Screwfix is selling it for that purpose.

PTFE Tape for Gas 5m x 12mm 10 Pack - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Suitable for all common gases and liquids. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute.

www.screwfix.com

 

[Basildog]

Looks like I fell into the trap of thinking that PTFE tape for gas was the stuff to use as Screwfix is selling it for that purpose.

PTFE Tape for Gas 5m x 12mm 10 Pack - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Suitable for all common gases and liquids. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute.

www.screwfix.com

It’s not the tape that’s the problem it’s that you have used it incorrectly on a type of joint that doesn’t require any tape / sealants.
As you’ve been told by someone in another answer.
Tape / sealants are only ever used on the male thread of a threaded joint , not in any other type of joints including compression fittings etc .

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[poppycamper]

IMO... PTFE tape should be called (as I have always known it to be ) simply "Thread Tape" because as you quite rightly state Basildog it should only be used on threaded joints.... thus the name.
May reduce some of the confusion to what it's actual purpose is.!

 

[MisterB]

PTFE tape can also be used as a temp fix to replace a fibre washer on a tap connector, waste fitting, but never on a gas fitting, I was an apprentice at the time of boss white and hemp on threads and putty and paste to set sink and bath taps in place. it was always a minimum of one thread for gas, two for water and three for steam, though we always tightened up as far as they would go. 36 inch stilsons