Burstner Elegance i890 locker access from above for repairs?

[82125]

2012 model.
The kitchen sink waste pipe has become disconnected in the only spot I cant seem to access. Second time this has happened now, I managed to reconnect it using a boat hook I just happened to have on board last time, and again this time. But I really want to be able to get hands on access so I can secure it correctly, so it doesnt happen again.
(The mess it makes in there and to anything stored below is pretty gross!)

But I just cant see any way of doing so?

In the photo below you can see the disconnected sink black coloured waste pipe, and immediately to its left and behind, that black box is the inset for the habitation door step.
There is no way to reach the joint from either of the external lockers left or right of the step.

And Im not sure about the legality of sending a 5 year old slim enough to craw through the locker from the other side!

Ive checked under the offside bench seat inside and although there is a false floor, under it is just the tiled floor of the living area (no hatch).

Did the Germans seriously design this so it was impossible to access this area without removing the entire hab floor?!

Any ideas please?
(currently I'm down to trying to use a stick attached to the boat hook dipped in Gorilla Glue,

and getting what i can in the fitting and putting it back on!)

 

[82125]

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[Landy Andy]

What is the distance/gap floor to top?

 

[82125]

What is the distance/gap floor to top?

impossible to craw through, even a small child would probably get stuck! Not measured it, but I can if you have a genius idea?

 

[Stealaway]

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I cut my waste pipe in a place I could access it and pulled the whole lot out. Repaired the joint and fed it back under the cabinets then repaired my cut with a new joint.

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[RowleyBirkinQC]

I would seek out a malnourished child and pay them handsomely for their trouble. Secure recovery cord to one ankle with which to pull them out as/if required.
Whats the worst that could happen?

Seriously though, that does look pretty inaccessible. I wonder if a friendly dealer would be able to confirm how it would be approached in a workshop?

 

[82125]

I cut my waste pipe in a place I could access it and pulled the whole lot out. Repaired the joint and fed it back under the cabinets then repaired my cut with a new joint.

that is a great idea. Only issue would be getting the cable ties back on far enough back to keep it off the floor.

 

[Stealaway]

that is a great idea. Only issue would be getting the cable ties back on far enough back to keep it off the floor.

My one was simply sat on the floor. Why does it need to be lifted?

 

[82125]

My one was simply sat on the floor. Why does it need to be lifted?

because anything stored in there could slide in to it pulling it apart again I assume? Mine is fixed high up as in the photograph.

 

[Lenny HB]

Those German pipes should be solvent welded, probably wasn't done properly when assembled. Can you cut a hatch in the top floor under the kitchen that would allow you access and possibly re-route the pipe. Our van has two big open hatches under the kitchen that allows access to pipes & wiring.
Those pipes and fittings are stocked by CAK Tanks.

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[Jamesh]

impossible to craw through, even a small child would probably get stuck! Not measured it, but I can if you have a genius idea?

I reckon a good job for a grandchild suitably motivated by a box of harribo! After the event obviously!

Otherwise why not put in a couple of 6" access hatches either side?

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[Stealaway]

because anything stored in there could slide in to it pulling it apart again I assume? Mine is fixed high up as in the photograph.

I hadn't realised it was a storage area.
Lennys idea could be your only solution

 

[82125]

Those German pipes should be solvent welded, probably wasn't done properly when assembled. Can you cut a hatch in the top floor under the kitchen that would allow you access and possibly re-route the pipe. Our van has two big open hatches under the kitchen that allows access to pipes & wiring.
Those pipes and fittings are stocked by CAK Tanks.

I liked that idea, until I just looked. To be above the pipe where it falls off, the hatch will literally be in the main walking area next to the step.

 

[pelican]

Could you disconnect and remove pipe at nearest end apply glue to furthest end and refit

 

[Mrtomtom]

Why not try a couple of these for the price of around £12, like a pair of long arms, paste on a bit of glue the push together, worth a try I'd guess.

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[82125]

Could you disconnect and remove pipe at nearest end apply glue to furthest end and refit

probably the best solution thanks.
I might first try attaching a glue brush to the boat hook (that i use to reach it to reconnect it) and just try dabbing glue in the far end and reattach. If that fails again then removing it as you suggest and re-glue both ends.

 

[82125]

Why not try a couple of these for the price of around £12, like a pair of long arms, paste on a bit of glue the push together, worth a try I'd guess.

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thanks, but no where near long enough, (32") theyd need to be at least double that length to reach.

 

[pelican]

probably the best solution thanks.
I might first try attaching a glue brush to the boat hook (that i use to reach it to reconnect it) and just try dabbing glue in the far end and reattach. If that fails again then removing it as you suggest and re-glue both ends.

you will need to spread glue/solvent the full diameter of pipe to prevent leakage.

 

[82125]

you will need to spread glue/solvent the full diameter of pipe to prevent leakage.

theres no chance of being able to do that without taking the whole floor up to reach it properly. But it doesnt leak any way even when its just pushed back together (had to do this twice already), so should be ok just getting what ever glue I can in there from the far side.

 

[pelican]

theres no chance of being able to do that without taking the whole floor up to reach it properly. But it doesnt leak any way even when its just pushed back together (had to do this twice already), so should be ok just getting what ever glue I can in there from the far side.

I was suggesting to do this if you removed the pipe.
Don't sniff the solvent!

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[82125]

I was suggesting to do this if you removed the pipe.
Don't sniff the solvent!

assuming the joint that i can actually reach has been properly solvent sealed, I may find id need to cut it to get it out, so ill try the in situ fix first.