Bottled Gas (propane) in Scandinavia - adapters etc

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  1. TheCaller

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    A quick forum search didn't come up with any answers, so ......

    We have 2 x 11kg exchange cylinders with the usual UK left-hand thread propane pigtail.

    We are off to Scandinavia in a couple of weeks & will be away for six weeks. In addition to the heating, the gas does the cooking, the fridge & the hot water, so even if we don't get any chilly evenings (the OH likes to be toasty), it'll be touch & go even with two full cylinders.

    Does anyone know what size bottles are available in Sweden? What adapters would be needed to connect? Is there a recoverable deposit on a new bottle? I already have an adapter for French bottles.

    It would be useful to have the same info for Denmark & Holland, if anyone knows.

    One option is to set off with just one UK bottle, get a local one asap, use & exchange as required, then return it before leaving Sweden. We could do the out & back to & from Sweden on one UK bottle, as that will be less than 2 weeks & the fridge will be on 12V for quite a bit of that time, while we drive.
     
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    One of these wouldn't go amiss in your gas locker.
    It converts a propane pigtail to a LHT Butane (as found on Dumpy UK Calor bottles.)

    That same thread is used in France for their Larger Propane and Butane bottles and I think in the Netherlands as well. Oh, and it also fits the side of the Jumbo adaptors/Regulators in Spain and Portugal.

    Others will be along regarding the Scandinavian countries.

    http://gasproducts.co.uk/propane-pol-to-butane-adaptor.html?gclid=COb6tbSw_80CFe8W0wodLKQDkw
     
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    Thanks. I think that that's the one I already have (for use with French bottles).
     
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    I've been searching the internet in the hopes of finding answers, but so far come up with very little.

    GasLow do an adapter to convert the hose that connects to their bottles to one that would connect to a Swedish bottle. From the photo, it looks remarkably like the UK Propane connector, but I don't suppose it is the same. I have a suspicion that my existing French bottle adaptor may turn my hose into the equivalent of one of theirs, onto which I could add their Swedish adaptor.

    I have also discovered that the Swedish & Belgium bottles use the same connector, so if anyone has experience of Belgium bottles. that would help.
     
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    For LPG (Propane) you should consult MyLpgEU where you can find sites which fill your bottle even if . I am shure that they have all adapters needed.
     
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    We have up to now -always used refillables in Scandinavia - however as we have seen quite a few stations stop selling LPG in Sweden - and Finland not having any outlets- we have decided not to bother with this on our current van.
    We bought a calor gas adaptor from Bullfinch when we recently went to France - this converts some of their bottles - and we are informed that some of the german bottles used in Sweden should be OK aswell - so maybe thats an option for you? We didn't need to use it - but checked it did fit their bottles -

    Also - there are places in Sweden - that will fill pretty much any bottle - so that cold be an option?
    Or just take a spare bottle? 3 x 11kg should be fine for 6 weeks
     
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    We are in Norway , we haven't struggled to find lpg on our route.

    Also, some of the filling stops will refill any bottle. We got a camping gaz replacement at Voss today for a good price. They only have propane (due to the cold), not butane.
     
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    Hi Jenben,
    I've just come across this site by way of your last post - I'm currently in Norway and have just run out of Campingaz (I know, I know, I should have done more research before leaving the continent...)
    You mention that you found a place in Voss that sold you some, but can you tell me if that was the larger threaded bottles, ie a 907? I've found a few places selling the smaller portable type for stoves.
    I'd be grateful for any information you had on sourcing it!
    Thanks, matt
     
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    Hello @Matt tyson, yes the 907 was the one we had replaced although I think he had the whole range of them. If he hasn't got one in stock he said he would refill it , to be honest it was quite good value which was odd for Norway !

    You will probably end up with the camping gas bottle we left there a few weeks ago :)

    The Voss gas place seemed to be part of a franchise business so you may find other suitable spots to refill.
     
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    Amazing! Do you know the name of the shop/place or where abouts it was? I'm relatively close to there now.

    We were beginning to lose hope and buy a bbq and a few bags of coals!
     
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    Just in case @Jenben has gone offline for a bit, I have done a quick search for you and there is only one place called Voss Gas at
    Strandavegen 169, 5710 Skulestadmo, Norway
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    +47 916 93 410
    Says open till 19:00
     
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    Thank you @Riverbankannie! - We're a bit far to make it tonight but will stop by in the morning.
    This site may well have saved our trip, or at least from cutting it short. Very grateful indeed
     
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    Have a great trip and by the way
    :pink::welcome3: To MHF
     
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    Yes, think @Riverbankannie has linked to the right one, it's by the side of the main road into Voss. They are really helpful there.

    Well worth joining our happy forum @Matt88 .
     
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    There is also a nice camperstop on the waterfront on the outskirts of Voss beside a bakery, campercontact no 42955. The gas shop is just down the road from here and his contact details and directions are also advertised by the side of the camper stop.
     
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    btw. although the address is right the photo on google maps isn't. their website is

    http://www.vossgass.no
     
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    Thanks @Jenben, I managed to get here in the nick of time - they were about ready to close. The two chaps there spoke little English, but one of them went out and filled my bottle there & then.

    Can I ask how you found the propane to run on the stove? Did it last a similar time to the Campingaz Butane? And did you use the same regulator? Sorry for the questions, but I know very little about gas...
    I wanted to pick up a 904 as a spare but they didn't have any.
     
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    Im afraid we only use it on a Cadac Safari chef.

    Short story is it works fine, though in theory you lose a bit of power compared to Butane. No idea if it lasts longer as they go on for ages when your just using it for the bbq.

    Long story - For the Cadac the manual for the UK model advises using a 37mb regulator for Propane rather than the 29mb Campinggaz butane one. Since you can't easily get a 37mb campinggaz regulator this is a bit of a problem. However it uses the same jet and burner as the French version which advises 29mb for both Propane and Butane so I suspect theres no problem technically and we haven't had a problem.

    I guess if you're using it in the van then for most recent installations have a fixed 30mb regulator and all your appliances should be rated to burn either propane or butane at this pressure. Our SMEV van stove warned that you might see a slightly different colour flame but thats about it (blue with Propane, blue with flickering yellow tips on butane).

    If you're looking to get a spare then I would think any of the local bottles would be just as good and much cheaper. However if you're heading north there was a similar gas place near Kristiansund which we saw- theres details of this and others from the same chain(40!!) willing to refill your cylinders here

    http://www.lpgnorge.no/stasjonsoversikt/english/
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to reply in such depth - I've got a pretty basic setup, and have a hose going straight from the gas bottle (in a locker) to a Smev cooker on top.
    I'll give it a go this evening but sounds like there shouldn't be any problem, perhaps just a loss of power.
    As for spares, we can't afford any space for the larger local bottles so will look up another filling place if and when this one runs out.
    Thanks again,
    Matt
     
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