Blank Euro emissions status on motorhome V5 registration document. Is this normal?

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Just noticed that the Euro Status field is blank on my V5 document, as are all of the emission related fields.

It's a 2021 vehicle, Fiat Ducato 2.3 based, 140hp, and is therefore as far as I know a Euro 6d vehicle.

Any thoughts?
 
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Spriddler said:
You can check how it's emissions class shows by putting your reg'n no. in here:

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Check if a vehicle is taxed

Check and report if a vehicle has up-to-date vehicle tax or is 'off road' (SORN)
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Don't count on it. Ours shows no data for emissions or Euro status. It even shows the MOT as expired, which it isn't.
 
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Barti Ddu said:
Just noticed that the Euro Status field is blank on my V5 document, as are all if the emission related fields.

It's a 2021 vehicle, Fiat Ducato 2.3 based, 140hp, and is therefore as far as I know a Euro 6d vehicle.

Any thoughts?
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Quite normal.
 
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acropolis22 said:
Don't count on it. Ours shows no data for emissions or Euro status. It even shows the MOT as expired, which it isn't.
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Hmm, that's not good. I've never had errors or omissions on the DVLA website for any of my vehicles.

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Just tried the online check as suggested by Spriddler but this also has no data.

Relieved to hear from others that this is not unusual, but why??
 

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Its because a motorhome cannot normally be tested for emissions as there are too many variations. The emissions is influenced by the body style and therefore this field if often left blank unless a particular body shape/style has been tested.
 
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gpat said:
Its because a motorhome cannot normally be tested for emissions as there are too many variations. The emissions is influenced by the body style and therefore this field if often left blank unless a particular body shape/style has been tested.
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I can understand that but why is the Euro status missing? That should just come from the engine number should it not?
 
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It's also a PVC rather than a coach built, so I would presume it would be similar to the standard panel van?

So without an actual Euro emissions class recorded by DVLA, am I correct in thinking that whether it is seen as complying with the various new emission zones that are springing up will be determined by its date of registration and fuel type?
 
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Barti Ddu said:
It's also a PVC rather than a coach built, so I would presume it would be similar to the standard panel van?

So without an actual Euro emissions class recorded by DVLA, am I correct in thinking that whether it is seen as complying with the various new emission zones that are springing up will be determined by its date of registration and fuel type?
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I believe that is correct.

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Whilst applying for my Crit Air Vignette, I was digging around on the DVLA website and other sites, trying to ind the Emissions data to quote on the Crit Air Application. I stumbled across a UK Gov Reg that said the lifting of the Base Vehicle Emissions data was discontinued [around 2013, IIRC], because the modifications for the M/Home or PVC made it meaningless; and the cost and capacity issues of having many small scale Converters queuing up for revised Emissions Test figures made it more sensible to forget recording the Base Vehicle data. Under the bonnet on ours are a couple of easily visible components that are marked Euro 5 if Gendarmes or any other official wants to confirm the status

Steve
 
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Barti Ddu said:
It's also a PVC rather than a coach built, so I would presume it would be similar to the standard panel van?

So without an actual Euro emissions class recorded by DVLA, am I correct in thinking that whether it is seen as complying with the various new emission zones that are springing up will be determined by its date of registration and fuel type?
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Saying that though. The euro std for the engine is recorded on the vehicles certificate of conformity isn't it?
 
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Just checking mine and emission Status not available.
Is that why they charged me £160 to drive through Bath.
 
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My impression of DVLA is that as long as they can fill in the Revenue Weight and tax you accordingly they will only fill in any other data if it is supplied, and then without checking.

I would love to hear the DVSA opinion of DVLA understanding of the technical side of vehicles. ;) :LOL:

Geoff
 
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Loving this! I toooooo have the same issue and am now trying to get my head round it cos of the Clean Air Tax sticker requirements for En France. I have read countless stuff and believe my Fiat Ducato which is a 2016 model, is Euro 6. It's also classed as Type Approval number E1 - top notch apparently, cos its a German coach build job. Sections v3, v4 and v5 have exhaust emission details recorded in my V5C. Guess I will go with that unless someone can tell me I am totally screwed and wrong!
John
 
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The emissions status should be on the Certificate of Conformity so you can use that to get an emissions sticker for France and Germany (that's what we did for our previous MH).
If you're like us and don't have a CoC then you can contact Fiat UK, and if you provide them with the info they need and pay their admin fee (£36 a couple of years ago) they'll send you a letter confirming the Euro emissions status. The letter was accepted no problem for our French and German stickers on our current MH. The Fiat email address is: ukcocrequests@fcagroup.com
 
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Barti Ddu said:
So without an actual Euro emissions class recorded by DVLA, am I correct in thinking that whether it is seen as complying with the various new emission zones that are springing up will be determined by its date of registration and fuel type?
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You can check your vehicle against the clean air zone charges online.....though you need to check in two places:
- Zones outside of London: <Broken link removed>
- London: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle/

Our V5 doesn't have any emissions data on it either but the first checker confirms no charges apply to us in any of the cities, and the TFL one for London shows only the congestion charge, no LEZ or ULEZ charges.
 
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Found my CoC which is in German! However, there is a section that shows Abgasnorm as Euro E5+M. The 2016 Fiat Ducato information shows Euro 6.
They tell you to take your documents with you (V5C), but not much help if its not in there.
need my shovel as I am going to have to dig deeper!
John

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DangerMousy said:
You can check your vehicle against the clean air zone charges online.....though you need to check in two places:
- Zones outside of London: <Broken link removed>
- London: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle/

Our V5 doesn't have any emissions data on it either but the first checker confirms no charges apply to us in any of the cities, and the TFL one for London shows only the congestion charge, no LEZ or ULEZ charges.
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Is it cheaper to take a fine and points for having false plates rather than pay the charges for a heavier motorhome :unsure:
 
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Is there an official site for ordering German emissions sticker?
 
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We purchased ours over the counter in a garage in Germany a couple of years ago, perhaps as it was a Fiat garage and a Dethleff van.
 
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johnwilson said:
Loving this! I toooooo have the same issue and am now trying to get my head round it cos of the Clean Air Tax sticker requirements for En France. I have read countless stuff and believe my Fiat Ducato which is a 2016 model, is Euro 6. It's also classed as Type Approval number E1 - top notch apparently, cos its a German coach build job. Sections v3, v4 and v5 have exhaust emission details recorded in my V5C. Guess I will go with that unless someone can tell me I am totally screwed and wrong!
John
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My late 2016 Ducato was one of the first Euro 6 vans made - it’s build was delayed by the factory shut down, but im glad, as it is Euro 6. - if your base van was made before the August 2016 factory shut down, it will be Euro5, if it was built From September on, it will be Euro 6.
you can tell if it is Euro6 by the badge on the side - Euro 6 has the 2.3 in red, and a red subscript “2” after the Multi-jet logo.
My van was only completed by the converter (in German) and at the dealer for collection (in Germany) in Late December 2016 - and i collected in mid Jan 2017 - so its first reg date on the V5C is 20/01/17
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My van was self imported, so i filled out the DVLA registration paperwork.
i have no emissions in Section V of my V5
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As I understand it if your V5 has not got any emissions figures, it will be because the dealer who first registered it did not put any in on the form. In that case the date of first registration is used to decide what they are. As far as I am aware the change date from Euro 5 to 6 was 1 September 2015, not 2016, for example see this website.

My 2015 model year Hymer B678 with 3 litre engine was built in late 2014 and delivered to the dealer in early December 2014. It was used by them as a demo vehicle and taken to shows using trade plates. We eventually bought it in November 2015 with 500 miles on the clock and are the first registered keeper. The dealer did not enter the emissions and therefore it is treated as being a Euro 6 model because it was registered after 1 September 2015. So I can take it into all the UK air quality zones (including London ULEZ) without charge and have the Yellow Crit Aire 2 category for France and the Green equivalent for Germany.
 
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peterc10 said:
As I understand it if your V5 has not got any emissions figures, it will be because the dealer who first registered it did not put any in on the form. In that case the date of first registration is used to decide what they are. As far as I am aware the change date from Euro 5 to 6 was 1 September 2015, not 2016, for example see this website.
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I don’t know the specific nuances of the date of 1 Sept 2015 on the website linked - but IIRC there were certain derogations manufaturers coul avail them selves of - i can’t recall them exactlynow, but it might be that Eu5 motors could not be holologated past the 1 Sept 15 date, but could still be built until Sept 16, at which point they had to move to EU6 - it also might have been a certain derogation related to commercial vehicles Or minor LCI model changes - t
en.wikipedia.org

European emission standards - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

What i do know is my van was initially going to be a Eu5 motor ex Fiat plant in June 2016, and the build was delayed until after their summer shutdown in Aug, and this was the transition to Eu6 motors being fitted. Ahead of a compliance deadline of Sept 2016.
this is backed up by the Fiat Ducato Wili page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Ducato?wprov=sfti1 that says re. The X290, iWiki says (my emphasis)

“Facelift (2014–present)​

The fourth generation Ducato/Jumper/Relay/Boxer (platform designation X290) was introduced in the summer of 2014, scheduled for an October 2014 debut as a 2015 model while the 2014 model year was entirely skipped. Although based on the third generation model, it features a heavily revised front end, with more car like headlight styling. Euro 6 engines were introduced for the 2017 model year in late 2016, and does not require Adblue (Fiat version only) unlike most of its competitors.“
 
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