I apologise if any of that post came over as negative - it certainly wasn't meant to be. The post was simply meant to illustrate that, sadly, there are no short cuts and it can be flipping hard to shift the weight. I need to shed a few kg as well as I've put on a bit over winter and need to get back down to a healthier weight before summer comes, as I feel awful in the heat if I've got a bit much "bioprene"insulation on! The whole weight issue nowadays is not helped by the way in which we eat now, as well as what we eat, which has changed a lot since the 50s, when much less of the population had weight issues. The truth of the matter is that actually you don't need that much at all - we've just all also got used to larger and larger portions of more and more calorie laden food, over the last 40 years or so. And I do appreciate that for some folk with health / mobility issues aids such as e-bikes, walking frames, etc are invaluable aids to getting out and about and that can only be a good thing. But we now see totally able people using e-bikes and then congratulating themselves on how much they've done, when in fact the bike's done the hard work. In order to get any benefit, especially on the cardio side, you must push and challenge yourself, slowly and carefully. It's not walking or cycling up the hill that will kill you; It's not walking or trying to cycle up it that more likely will.