Beware stealthy speed cameras in Spain.

[sciac2001]

New urban speed limits in place.

 

[David and Sally]

Money raising!!

 

[sciac2001]

Quite severe penalties.
Eg: Going over the limit by as little as 1km/hr = €100

 

[Just smiffy]

Good, why do you want to speed on holiday….

and on a street like the pictures you shouldn’t be speeding….

 

[David and Sally]

Good, why do you want to speed on holiday….

and on a street like the pictures you shouldn’t be speeding….

True, but like in the UK they are using a slight slip up to make money. It's not about road safety anymore, it's fundraising.

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[Badknee]

Good, why do you want to speed on holiday….

and on a street like the pictures you shouldn’t be speeding….

Wot Smiff sed, keep to or lower than the limit and they can put up as many cameras as they like.

 

[POH]

Cheeky barstewards

 

[Steve and Denise]

It definitely looks like a fund raiser, it’s ok for us old farts that are retired but come on guys we have to remember when we were at work never enough hours in a day to get your work done! Assuming you had to work

 

[EuroTrotters]

Is that real ?

 

[Richard n Ann]

30kph is a bit low, they've lowered it so 9/10 people will exceed it and they can charge them
Our 30mph limits are more sensible.

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[jumar]

30kph is a bit low, they've lowered it so 9/10 people will exceed it and they can charge them
Our 30mph limits are more sensible.

These restrictions are for Urban roads where accidents involving car verses pedestrian can be reduced.....less fatalities is what they want to accomplish....without doubt many are going to be caught....I drive them daily...watch this space..

 

[sciac2001]

We will all have moments of slight inattention when our speed might exceed by 1 or 2 km.
On such occasions I bet that all here who have decried even the most innocent of infractions will be cursing when they themselves receive a €100 for doing so.

Let us hope that there will be some minor tolerance before the cameras click.

 

[gus-lopez]

50% discount for residents.

 

[gus-lopez]

30kph is a bit low, they've lowered it so 9/10 people will exceed it and they can charge them
Our 30mph limits are more sensible.

Most in town are now 20kph ,same as past schools have always been.
Even if all motorists comply cyclists certainly never have done or will do. .

 

[sciac2001]

Is that a fact G-L?

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[Augusta08]

The speed limit is , a limit, not a target.

It should be possible to habitually drive 5kmph slower than the limit.

 

[sallylillian]

So when a cyclist hits it can he sue? And is the vehicle illegal with an unmarked appendage like that not included in its Homologation? I thought the Napoleonic law theory adopted by much of Europe was anything not stated in law as legal is illegal?

 

[Kups]

The EU Cross-Border Enforcement (CBE) Directive was revoked at the end of the Brexit transition period, on December 31, 2020. This means that UK drivers will no longer get speeding fines through the post from roadside cameras. HOWEVER, you will get on the spot fines, (especially in France). And of course nobody should be speeding for all the reasons mentioned above. Its going to be interesting to see how the different police forces react to the end of the EU Directive.

 

[SMB]

The speed limit is , a limit, not a target.

It should be possible to habitually drive 5kmph slower than the limit.

They've also lowered the speed limit to 20kph on some roads, would you be happy to drive at 15kph (9mph)? I wouldn't have thought these lower speed limits would be environmentally friendly anyway or safe if you have to concentrate on your speedometer rather than the road.

 

[Twincam Escort]

The last thing you want to be doing in that road is trying to read a ducato speedo to see whether your doing 19, 20, 21 kph or whatever!

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[Lenny HB]

30kph is a bit low, they've lowered it so 9/10 people will exceed it and they can charge them
Our 30mph limits are more sensible.

Loads of towns in the UK have 20mph limits, e.g. Brighton and Hove apart from a few arterial roads the whole city is 20mph.

 

[sciac2001]

If you are concentrating so hard on your speedometer in order to keep strictly to the 20km/hr in town and you hit a child because of your lack of attention outside of your vehicle, at least you can be content that you were within the permitted speed limit.

What a joke.

Once again, theory trumps practicality!

 

[Sheddy]

The re-elected Welsh government intends to make the urban speed limit 20mph as default with councils having the authority to make it 30 if they wish. So 20mph unless signed as 30.

 

[Richard n Ann]

It won't reduce accidents, when drivers feel safer they just pay less attention to driving.
Imagine if the speed limit was 1kph you could quite easily get away a with a micro sleep at the wheel this is how risk perception works with humans, there'll always be accidents.

I read an article once, think it was in Belgium or Denmark, the mayor had to reduce accidents through the town centre so he pedestrianised the road and still let cars use it. At first thoughts you might think he's gone mad, but drivers stayed alert to the risk of hitting someone and slowed right down.

 

[David and Sally]

All that slow-moving traffic will reduce pedestrian collisions, but we will get them with our fumes instead

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[ManTheVan]

Goodness, that camera looks rather vulnerable to being side-swiped off by a passing vehicle.

 

[Just smiffy]

The last thing you want to be doing in that road is trying to read a ducato speedo to see whether your doing 19, 20, 21 kph or whatever!

If you are concentrating so hard on your speedometer in order to keep strictly to the 20km/hr in town and you hit a child because of your lack of attention outside of your vehicle, at least you can be content that you were within the permitted speed limit.

What a joke.

Once again, theory trumps practicality!

I’m assuming your at an age where you’ve been driving for many years and if you are unable to judge roughly what your speed is then please consider giving up driving, I’m sure the kids that accidentally walk into your pathway will appreciate it….

 

[David and Sally]

I’m assuming your at an age where you’ve been driving for many years and if you are unable to judge roughly what your speed is then please consider giving up driving, I’m sure the kids that accidentally walk into your pathway will appreciate it….

I can. But not to within 1kph. Can you be that accurate? If you can then please let us know how to do that.

 

[Just smiffy]

I can. But not to within 1kph. Can you be that accurate? If you can then please let us know how to do that.

The posts contained information that implies children or other situations can occur along a road with parked cars and other obstructions where people or children could appear in the road, why would you not see the risk and drive accordingly… as said many times the speed limit is not a target…

 

[SpeedyDux]

It won't reduce accidents, when drivers feel safer they just pay less attention to driving.
Imagine if the speed limit was 1kph you could quite easily get away a with a micro sleep at the wheel this is how risk perception works with humans, there'll always be accidents.

I read an article once, think it was in Belgium or Denmark, the mayor had to reduce accidents through the town centre so he pedestrianised the road and still let cars use it. At first thoughts you might think he's gone mad, but drivers stayed alert to the risk of hitting someone and slowed right down.

Yes, I came across a similar experiment where all the signage and white lines were removed, including at junctions so nobody had right of way.

The number of accidents and casualties fell, which seems counter-intuitive. I've forgotten where this took place.

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