Best way to extend / clone home wifi please?

[EuroTrotters]

Hi,

I am trying to find a reliable way of extending our home Wifi.

We did have TP Link AV600 TL-WPA4220

Repetidor WiFi | TP-Link Powerline AV600, HomePlug AV (HPAV), IEEE 1901 - 802.11b/g/n

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That worked fine with our 3G/4G router. As I was able to use it to cone the existing wifi

I have tried to set that up with our new telitec fibre router. But I don't know if its something to do with operating on different bands, just won't work.

I have also tried a TP Link Router/Extender

TL-WR740N​

But I cannot seem to get that to work as a clone/extender either.

Any suggestions from people who know what they are talking about please?

Telitec router is a ZTE ZXHN F670L

 

[Jon B]

We had similar issues in our house - tried many plug in extenders, none of which worked too well, with constant dropouts and slow speeds happening all the time.

Eventually bit the bullet and bought 3 Google* hubs (now called nest wifi mesh routers) - had these for over a year now and we no longer have any wifi issues at all - no dropouts whatsoever and 100% coverage throughout.

*Many people don't like Google and if that's the case there are other units which will do the same job - it wasn't cheap to do but has saved me 'going off on one' and ranting like a lunatic

 

[Revolvor]

Wifi booster

Does anyone have experience of these ? I have a wifi dead spot in the house I'd like to resolve. They seem to range from £10 on ebay to £80.

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[kevenh]

Hi,

I am trying to find a reliable way of extending our home Wifi.

We did have TP Link AV600 TL-WPA4220

Repetidor WiFi | TP-Link Powerline AV600, HomePlug AV (HPAV), IEEE 1901 - 802.11b/g/n

Repetidor WiFi - TP-Link Powerline AV600, HomePlug AV (HPAV), IEEE 1901 - 802.11b/g/n Repetidores y amplificadores WiFi al mejo

www.mediamarkt.es

That worked fine with our 3G/4G router. As I was able to use it to cone the existing wifi

I have tried to set that up with our new telitec fibre router. But I don't know if its something to do with operating on different bands, just won't work.

I have also tried a TP Link Router/Extender

TL-WR740N​

But I cannot seem to get that to work as a clone/extender either.

Any suggestions from people who know what they are talking about please?

Telitec router is a ZTE ZXHN F670L

At a simple level, the Powerline TP link are Ethernet connections that use the mains wiring to pass signals.
One unit is plugged into a mains socket near to your Teltic router. Then connects to the same via a shortish Ethernet cable.
Then you have another Powerline TP link in a room with other equipment that needs wired Ethernet connection.

Some of the TP link are also wifi senders.

So, you have the latter and since a router change something has gone wrong?
It must be related to the SSID and available wifi security choices in the new & old wifi.
Have you been able to clone all the new Teltic router wifi setup onto the TP Link?

 

[tonka]

"MESH SYSTEM ".
Google it..

I have the TENDA nova system. One of the cheaper ones but been working fine for me for past year.,
Your wifi devices see it all as one system...

Example.. others are available
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[EuroTrotters]

At a simple level, the Powerline TP link are Ethernet connections that use the mains wiring to pass signals.
One unit is plugged into a mains socket near to your Teltic router. Then connects to the same via a shortish Ethernet cable.
Then you have another Powerline TP link in a room with other equipment that needs wired Ethernet connection.

Some of the TP link are also wifi senders.

So, you have the latter and since a router change something has gone wrong?
It must be related to the SSID and available wifi security choices in the new & old wifi.
Have you been able to clone all the new Teltic router wifi setup onto the TP Link?

I have tried to clone the wifi, just not working.

I am trying to update the firmware on the TP l

ink, seems my Mac is not compatible so trying it on a Wndows PC and that's come up with this

 

[EuroTrotters]

"MESH SYSTEM ".
Google it..

I have the TENDA nova system. One of the cheaper ones but been working fine for me for past year.,
Your wifi devices see it all as one system...

Example.. others are available
Broken Link Removed

Thank you, I am in Spain so will try the local specialist or Amazon.es

 

[EuroTrotters]

I have tried to clone the wifi, just not working.

I am trying to update the firmware on the TP link, seems my Mac is not compatible so trying it on a Wndows PC and that's come up with this

Now I have the log in but says file invalid !

 

[Pops 1]

I bought one of these, works a treat, even in Mrs Pops she shed.

 

[Lenny HB]

IMO range extenders are a waste of time I've never had any luck with them, power line links work OK but are susceptible to interference, plug a switch mode PS (what most transformers are these days) near them and it kills them.

A Mesh system is the best option, one of the cheaper ones the TP Link M5 works well and easy to set up.
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[Pops 1]

I bought one of these, works a treat, even in Mrs Pops she shed.
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apparently it doesn’t improve your photography skills though

 

[Jon B]

IMO range extenders are a waste of time I've never had any luck with them, power line links work OK but are susceptible to interference, plug a switch mode PS (what most transformers are these days) near them and it kills them.

A Mesh system is the best option, one of the cheaper ones the TP Link M5 works well and easy to set up.
Amazon product ASIN B071241G3R

I'd have to agree - Mesh system has worked flawlessly for us - Used to be switching things on and off and still cursing the dead spots and dropouts.

They may seem like a lot of money to outlay at first, but they do work and were simple to set up

 

[kevenh]

I'd have to agree - Mesh system has worked flawlessly for us - Used to be switching things on and off and still cursing the dead spots and dropouts.

They may seem like a lot of money to outlay at first, but they do work and were simple to set up

My Powerline TP link system is great.
But I don’t have much load on the mains plug used for the router and devices at the other end.
The room to room speeds are good - better than WiFi. And the 3 port TP Link hub in the room I extended Ethernet wired to is just like a 1GB hub/switch for the same room connected devices.

 

[Figaro]

I ended up utilising an old Linksys WG54 wireless router (but any other will do) I found in the loft.
Watched a YouTube video to help me set it up to act as an adapter rather than a router. The downside is you have to run a Ethernet cable to it to work properly. In my case this was fairly straightforward.
But I now have stable wifi throughout the house.

 

[kevenh]

I ended up utilising an old Linksys WG54 wireless router (but any other will do) I found in the loft.
Watched a YouTube video to help me set it up to act as an adapter rather than a router. The downside is you have to run a Ethernet cable to it to work properly. In my case this was fairly straightforward.
But I now have stable wifi throughout the house.

Jail breaking an old Linksys router so it could be a bridge was my solution for years
And it was also a WiFi scanner after being reformed.
Later, TP Link Powerline was a better solution but I’ll drop in links for repurposing Linksys routers

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[kevenh]

I’ll drop in links for repurposing Linksys routers

I used and loved Tomato but as dd-wrt is more up-to-date and has a wider range of supported host Linksys devices that could be a better route - oh!! a pun

 

[WynandJean]

"MESH SYSTEM ".
Google it..

I have the TENDA nova system. One of the cheaper ones but been working fine for me for past year.,
Your wifi devices see it all as one system...

Example.. others are available
Broken Link Removed

We have one of these after our TP-link wouldn't work with new router. Works fine.

Wyn

 

[EuroTrotters]

I ended up utilising an old Linksys WG54 wireless router (but any other will do) I found in the loft.
Watched a YouTube video to help me set it up to act as an adapter rather than a router. The downside is you have to run a Ethernet cable to it to work properly. In my case this was fairly straightforward.
But I now have stable wifi throughout the house.

I tried that with one I bought offf someone on here. Don't know what I have done but it has stopped working now.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Can I ask, with the Mesh systems you are using, does it clone the WiFi?

I have seen a deal on Amazon.es for the mesh 12 two pack £107

 

[Pops 1]

I’m not sure that it clones the system as such, but you effectively get a new WiFi system with separate password that you log onto and your existing WiFi sits alongside it. You still have to pay for your existing system and the mesh hard wires into the existing router then is WiFi to the other nodes you are using.

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[Itsmcb]

Another vote for a mesh system. We have a tplink Deco m4 triple pack (currently£99.00 on Amazon) absolutely brilliant, covers 4 beds and the garden no problems at all and we have so many things linked to it there should be smoke coming from it

 

[Googlebot]

Another vote for a mesh system. We have a tplink Deco m4 triple pack (currently£99.00 on Amazon) absolutely brilliant, covers 4 View attachment 509585beds and the garden no problems at all and we have so many things linked to it there should be smoke coming from it

I got this system about 6 months back after constant dropouts and my son being unable to log on from his bedroom to do homework.

It is amazing!!!

I get full speed throughout most of the house of 100MBPS, it only drops a bit in my sons room which is furthest away but I still get 70MBPS then.

Just plugged into the Virgin router and set up was easy.

Well recommended bit of kit and I can’t remember the internet dropping out since we had it. It used to be a daily occurrence.

 

[Itsmcb]

I got this system about 6 months back after constant dropouts and my son being unable to log on from his bedroom to do homework.

It is amazing!!!

I get full speed throughout most of the house of 100MBPS, it only drops a bit in my sons room which is furthest away but I still get 70MBPS then.

Just plugged into the Virgin router and set up was easy.

Well recommended bit of kit and I can’t remember the internet dropping out since we had it. It used to be a daily occurrence.

Yep ours is using a Virgin router too. As you say, it's excellent. My wife is working from home and has video calls whilst my son is video gaming and there are at least a couple of firesticks feeding TVs plus all our phones all at the same time. Top marks from me

 

[SomeoneElse]

Another vote for the Tenda Mesh system.
I live in an old stone cottage with 2 foot thick stone walls and I couldn't find a place for the wifi to give coverage of the whole house. The Mesh system solved that. The wifi name is the same throughout the house and users don't know which mesh box they are connected to, they get a good signal everywhere.

 

[EuroTrotters]

I went for the TENDA AC2100 350m2

€124 for the 2-pack from amazon.es

Just trying to configure it.

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[Lenny HB]

Although I've sorted other people out with Mesh systems I've not used one myself until recently.
I bought a TP Link Delco M4 worked fairly well but the units were a bit on the large size and I couldn't mount one on the wall & put my router back in the cupboard also 'er indoors didn't like the look of them.

Anyway returned the M4's and bought a TP Link Deco M5 system, wow what a difference works far better than the M4 I get full speed all around the house our max is 48mb/s, even get 20mb/s half way down the garden and 5mb/s at the end of the garden.

 

[peterc10]

Another vote for a decent mesh system. We use a Lynksys Velop system and it covers all of the house and most of the garden. The number of nodes needed, and therefore the cost, will depend upon how big your house is and whether or not it has lots of masonry walls. But if you have dead spots you can always buy another node from the same maker.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Although I've sorted other people out with Mesh systems I've not used one myself until recently.
I bought a TP Link Delco M4 worked fairly well but the units were a bit on the large size and I couldn't mount one on the wall & put my router back in the cupboard also 'er indoors didn't like the look of them.

Anyway returned the M4's and bought a TP Link Deco M5 system, wow what a difference works far better than the M4 I get full speed all around the house our max is 48mb/s, even get 20mb/s half way down the garden and 5mb/s at the end of the garden.

Another vote for a decent mesh system. We use a Lynksys Velop system and it covers all of the house and most of the garden. The number of nodes needed, and therefore the cost, will depend upon how big your house is and whether or not it has lots of masonry walls. But if you have dead spots you can always buy another node from the same maker.

Thank you for the replies.

I thought it would simply replicate (extend the router with the same name and password). However, I cannot see how to do this.

 

[Lenny HB]

Thank you for the replies.

I thought it would simply replicate (extend the router with the same name and password). However, I cannot see how to do this.

Just turn the WiFi off on the router and when setting up the mesh use the same ssid & pw.

One thing to be aware of any hardware connected devices that connect to another WiFi device won't work. I spent ages trying to work out why my WiFi printer stopped working from my hard wired PC. The mesh is on WAN relative to your LAN.

 

[peterc10]

Thank you for the replies.

I thought it would simply replicate (extend the router with the same name and password). However, I cannot see how to do this.

If you have a modem that also acts as a wifi router (those usually supplied by your ISP will be that type), you plug the first node directly into it using a data cable. Then once you have set up all the other nodes you switch the modem/router's wifi signal and utilise it only as a modem. If you have a separate modem and router, just use your modem and through the old router away.

Some ISPs, like BT, can offer you a mesh system that is the one they are pushing now in their TV ads about covering all of your home. In that case I guess you will get a modem and then whatever number of nodes are needed.

Once set up the mesh has one name and password which is used by all of the nodes, and you can walk around the house and change automatically to different nodes seamlessly without dropping the connection.

One thing to be aware of any hardware connected devices that connect to another WiFi device won't work. I spent ages trying to work out why my WiFi printer stopped working from my hard wired PC. The mesh is on WAN relative to your LAN.

Not sure why that happens. My PC is wired into a node (not direct to the modem router) and can talk to everything else connected to the mesh whether wirelessly or wired. My external Ring cameras are hard wired to local nodes inside the house (in order to use POE connection) but they can be picked up wirelessly by my phone and my wired in PC.

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