I think there's a gap in the market for basic campsites for people like me I don't want to pay for showers, toilets, their cleaning and maintenance. Or pot washing facilities or other features I don't want to pay for, and don't need electricity My van is self-sufficient with solar panels and 2 large batteries It's shower and bathroom much nicer than those most sites provide It holds plenty of water Probably yours is the same All I need is somewhere quiet to park - a water tap and somewhere to empty the loo I don't want to pay for lots of fascilites I don't need, and I really don't understand people who arrive at a site after a journey with fully charged batteries and just seem desparate to hook up, what's that all about? I know there are some CL's and CS's without hook ups but even those are becoming scarce! And it's not easy to do a search for them either What do you think? Is there a market or is it just me!