Bailey Adamo 75-4T (1 Viewer)

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Its on the Ford Skeletal chassis so not an option. Also be careful if you want to tow!

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Ok, you can tow 750kg. Unless you want to tow a toad that is enough. We have rowed back from towing a toad to keep things simple.
Thanks David & Sally, I've seen that Bailey sold a towbar for use up to 750kg (that's not available at the mo) but I found a reference that a towbar fitted by UK Towbars could tow up to 2000kg. I'm looking into buying a 75-4T and am worried about we'll have enough load allowance. How are you finding yours? Thanks, Mike & Claire
 
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It only has 334KG of payload at 3500KG.

It simply won’t be enough by far, full tank of water and second battery and that’s 210kg left, second person at 75kg and you are down to 135KG. Awning and that’s down to 95KG.

It’s ridiculous they even sell them with such limitations. Unless you can uprate it, I would look elsewhere.

If I got one, the dogs, me, Lucy and the kids would be on the weight limit with nothing else in.

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No to Bailey & Swift, yes to Auto Trail - 1000kg towing as they're a lot lighter as they don't have 50kg of Aguti travel seats filling your under bench space or 20kg electric table clogging your lounge space.

Look for a motorhome with more traditional style travel seats & foldable table, you'll easily save 40kg in payload.

Ok, I'm biased but I'd look at an F Line F70 & add the 2 travel seats & dropdown if needed, that'll give you around 539kg of payload... and it's built on Fords wide track motorhome specific chassis.

Can also be up plated to 4100kg as a paper exercise.
 
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Thanks David & Sally, I've seen that Bailey sold a towbar for use up to 750kg (that's not available at the mo) but I found a reference that a towbar fitted by UK Towbars could tow up to 2000kg. I'm looking into buying a 75-4T and am worried about we'll have enough load allowance. How are you finding yours? Thanks, Mike & Claire
you cannot change the manufactures towing limit which will be displayed on the VIN plate however you manipulate the figures
you may be able to upgrade the payload however
 
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Thanks everyone for your help, it's now the least of my worries. I've just found out about water ingress around the windscreen and BCM faults. :(

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No issues with water ingress. I thought Ford had sorted any water problems with electronics.

Anyway, having had the dealer sort some build quality issues quite happy at this time.
 
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I hope i'm ok towing a twin axel braked trailer with a Fiat 500 on it. I read it's ok upto 2000Kgs.
Bailey Autograph 79-4T
 
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Thanks everyone for your help, it's now the least of my worries. I've just found out about water ingress around the windscreen and BCM faults. :(
With the windscreen, it's the scuttle, owners must keep it free of debris as the drains clog with detritus. The BCM fault is specific to condensation forming on motorhome windscreens, it irrigates through the dashboard onto the BCM just under the steering wheel.

Most owners find a screen cover such as Taylormade solves this... pleated blinds offer privacy nothing more.

In 4 years of ownership of a Mk8 facelift Transit we've never had an issue with either of them.

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I hope i'm ok towing a twin axel braked trailer with a Fiat 500 on it. I read it's ok upto 2000Kgs.
Bailey Autograph 79-4T
Maximum a standard 3500kg FWD Transit van can tow is 1800kg... van, not motorhome.

Only the 3500kg RWD 10 speed auto & 6 speed manual can tow more... again, van not motorhome.

Bailey Adamo is allowed an unbraked 750kg.

Swift Voyager are not suitable for towing.

Benimar Tessoro - Manual 1500kg. 6 speed auto 750kg.

Auto trail F Line - 1000kg. This reduces to 500kg if the chassis is up plated to 4100kg.
 
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It simply won’t be enough by far, full tank of water and second battery and that’s 210kg left, second person at 75kg and you are down to 135KG. Awning and that’s down to 95KG.
You forgot the 5% tolerance that's 158kg so we are now at -63kg on a van that can not be uprated. :rofl:

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Hi All, Thanks fpr the add. :giggle: I'm currently looking at buying a Bailey Adamo 75-4T. Does anyone know if this MH can be up-plated?
I have an Adamo 75-4dl. I have uprated it to 4,000kg using the services of Sv Tech. I have also added Dunlop airbags to the rear axle to help with stability. The airbags were not required for the uprating to 4000kg. With them now added I believe I could increase by a further 150kg.
 
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I have an Adamo 75-4dl. I have uprated it to 4,000kg using the services of Sv Tech. I have also added Dunlop airbags to the rear axle to help with stability. The airbags were not required for the uprating to 4000kg. With them now added I believe I could increase by a further 150kg.
Odd, our dealer specifically told us we could not uprate. I will have a chat with Sv.
x17ken Did you have to upgrade anything, tyres etc.?
Is yours manual or auto .?

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Odd, our dealer specifically told us we could not uprate. I will have a chat with Sv.
x17ken Did you have to upgrade anything, tyres etc.?
No changes to the vehicle were required to uprate to 4,000kg. To go further requires some adaptations. Sv Tech were great in advising me on the options. Everything is legit and I have a registration doc from DVLA reflecting the change. DVLA also gave me a VED refund following the change.
 
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I uplated my 75-4i to 4 tonnes using SV Tech. Mine is a 21 plate. Have they changed the chassis.

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I uplated my 75-4i to 4 tonnes using SV Tech. Mine is a 21 plate. Have they changed the chassis.
I don’t think so. Ours is 2023 auto

The thing is I think the Gross Train stays at 4250 kg so I am thinking 3850 kg which will give me some headroom on payload but still allow a scooter on a trailer with 500 kg tow capacity.

Not sure if the auto box is an issue.
 
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One further important bit of advice. You must take care to examine your axle loadings. This is not just about overall plated weight it is also about safety. The largest Adamos have quite a long rear overhang and that puts a lot of stress on the rear suspension. On our usual long stay trips the weigh-bridges usually show that I have about 200kg in hand on my overall 4,000kg limit. Sounds good? But within this the rear axle loading is always on the limit. I have tried everything to move weight forward but nothing seems to work. So I have removed one of the second row belted travel seats to save 30kg and I have also added rear airbags to assist the rear suspension and achieve a more stable/safe drive. All is now good and the drive quality is the best I have experienced in any motorhome. I agree with previous comments - as sold the largest Adamos are not fit for purpose at the 3,500kg weight limit. Unless you only load it with four travellers in their underwear with no luggage, bikes etc. etc. In spite of this and after a bit of work we love our Adamo and we have enough room in the front for a quick tango or two now we have taken out some of the redundant and heavy seating.
 
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One further important bit of advice. You must take care to examine your axle loadings. This is not just about overall plated weight it is also about safety. The largest Adamos have quite a long rear overhang and that puts a lot of stress on the rear suspension. On our usual long stay trips the weigh-bridges usually show that I have about 200kg in hand on my overall 4,000kg limit. Sounds good? But within this the rear axle loading is always on the limit. I have tried everything to move weight forward but nothing seems to work. So I have removed one of the second row belted travel seats to save 30kg and I have also added rear airbags to assist the rear suspension and achieve a more stable/safe drive. All is now good and the drive quality is the best I have experienced in any motorhome. I agree with previous comments - as sold the largest Adamos are not fit for purpose at the 3,500kg weight limit. Unless you only load it with four travellers in their underwear with no luggage, bikes etc. etc. In spite of this and after a bit of work we love our Adamo and we have enough room in the front for a quick tango or two now we have taken out some of the redundant and heavy seating.
Hi I have an Adamo 75-4i and on the Ford skeletal chassis. With rear axle Air Suspension fitted and with Certification from SVTech my van has been updated to 4,250kg and I have DVLA V5 to show its updating. The surprise to me was that now I am rated as a PHGV my tax DROPPED and I received a refund of £130.00!!! Towing is still limited to 750kg but my Train Weight is still 4,250kg sufficient to tow a small car.

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Hi I have an Adamo 75-4i and on the Ford skeletal chassis. With rear axle Air Suspension fitted and with Certification from SVTech my van has been updated to 4,250kg and I have DVLA V5 to show its updating. The surprise to me was that now I am rated as a PHGV my tax DROPPED and I received a refund of £130.00!!! Towing is still limited to 750kg but my Train Weight is still 4,250kg sufficient to tow a small car.
Are you now in a situation whereas you need a C1...................or do you have.
 
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Are you now in a situation whereas you need a C1...................or do you have.
Hi, well the stupid thing is that in another life I was. Hgv1 and coach instructor but at 70 chose NOT to hold my Grandfather rights !! I have applied to DVLA ( taken medical etc) to renew- Nov 1st - still waiting it seems 16 weeks is the time scale. At moment van is under 3,500kg but whist my application stands I am allowed to drive it. God bless the DVLA?
 
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Hi I have an Adamo 75-4i and on the Ford skeletal chassis. With rear axle Air Suspension fitted and with Certification from SVTech my van has been updated to 4,250kg and I have DVLA V5 to show its updating. The surprise to me was that now I am rated as a PHGV my tax DROPPED and I received a refund of £130.00!!! Towing is still limited to 750kg but my Train Weight is still 4,250kg sufficient to tow a small car.
But if you uprate to 4250kg loaded your tow capacity will be nil? If / when I upgrade I am thinking of going to 3850kg leaving 400 kg for scooter and trailer.
Is my thinking correct?
 
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