Autogas pumps dissappearing ?

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Went to fill my Gasit tank today and pump not there anymore.When I asked about reason was told they are being removed as some have blown up ! Anyone noticed a decline ?
 
A few disappeared when Countrywide went belly up, but I have a good choice of three within 7 miles
 
Loads disappearing round our area. My lpg app shows several that are no longer there locally.
 
Shell seems to be the main company that is shedding them. BP still going strong as far as I can see, along with Morrisons.

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LPG vehicles never took off like it was expected they would and over time garage proprietors have realised they have a lot of money invested in LPG sat in storage tanks with a very slow return on their investment resulting in the decision to stop selling it.

That's my view at least.
 
I hope not, BP stations around me have stopped the only Shell one still open. Next nearest is 15 miles away.
 
same sort of story happened in the early 80,s .
was several around here but they almost disapeared.
i still have kit i took off one of the lpg cars i had back then.
never mind might come back again in a few years .
 
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I think they believed that LPG as an alternative to petrol/diesel fuels would take off, which did not.
Topping up Motorhome refillable bottles was never going to justify masses of dealers.
Now that Electric cars are beginning to be the latest alternative fuel, service stations are having to find ways to support them. As there is still an ongoing demand for Autogas albeit not mainstream, I believe that many will remain but sadly cannot see the justification in adding many more to our present supply.

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shell did a deal about supplying bottled gas a couple of years ago and have a program of removing the lpg pumps on their forecourts nationally
 
Makes sense that refilling Motorhome isn’t sufficient to keep garages interested - maybe it will be a slower decline on the continent, but as the electrical/hybrid bandwagon gathers pace, I assume it will go the
same way eventually.
We‘re a few years off having to worry too much but I guess diesel heaters are likely to become more popular as a result..?
 
Ernesto said:
Makes sense that refilling Motorhome isn’t sufficient to keep garages interested - maybe it will be a slower decline on the continent, but as the electrical/hybrid bandwagon gathers pace, I assume it will go the
same way eventually.
We‘re a few years off having to worry too much but I guess diesel heaters are likely to become more popular as a result..?
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I think HGVs often use LPG for onboard services, so supplies may remain at motorway services for a while longer.
 
Ernesto said:
Makes sense that refilling Motorhome isn’t sufficient to keep garages interested - maybe it will be a slower decline on the continent, but as the electrical/hybrid bandwagon gathers pace, I assume it will go the
same way eventually.
We‘re a few years off having to worry too much but I guess diesel heaters are likely to become more popular as a result..?
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I know diesel heaters and diesel cookers are available. Is there such a thing as a diesel fridge or do we just have to beef up the solar for an all-electric fridge?

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Chris51
Where did you go that had the pump removed ?
I used to use Capital by Bet 365 but their pump has gone now.
Shell garage by Festival Park still sell it but I find the access to the pump quite tight, you may be ok in a PVC
 
Ernesto said:
Makes sense that refilling Motorhome isn’t sufficient to keep garages interested - maybe it will be a slower decline on the continent, but as the electrical/hybrid bandwagon gathers pace, I assume it will go the
same way eventually.
We‘re a few years off having to worry too much but I guess diesel heaters are likely to become more popular as a result..?
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Yes and in about 20 years the same debate will surface'' What's happened to diesel pumps, they are disappearing fast''
 
So, if you were just starting a conversion what is the best way forward? I was planning on fitting an underslung refillable tank but after reading this thread I am wondering if I should consider sticking with bottled.
Initially the van will be used mainly in the UK but I would like to take it abroad at some point and was worried about availability of compatible bottles abroad hence the underslung LPG
 
Bertie Van said:
So, if you were just starting a conversion what is the best way forward? I was planning on fitting an underslung refillable tank but after reading this thread I am wondering if I should consider sticking with bottled.
Initially the van will be used mainly in the UK but I would like to take it abroad at some point and was worried about availability of compatible bottles abroad hence the underslung LPG
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As things stand, I would stick with the underslung tank. Availability in Europe does not seem to be an issue at all in the short to medium term at least and the convenience is well worth it.
 
the ridiculous thing about electric vehicles is that they are still not reaching tip over numbers that would see charging infrastructure to be rolled out nationally in high numbers. with changing standards and competing technology we need to see it mature first. round here there were more electric vehicles when we were kids than right now. every village had an electric milk float with large fleets in towns. they could only charge them overnight, as otherwise it would overload the national grid
In its current form, i doubt electric cars and especially commercial vehicles being the norm is still many years away

lpg diesel and petrol will still be available for the next generation

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TheBig1 said:
the ridiculous thing about electric vehicles is that they are still not reaching tip over numbers that would see charging infrastructure to be rolled out nationally in high numbers. with changing standards and competing technology we need to see it mature first. round here there were more electric vehicles when we were kids than right now. every village had an electric milk float with large fleets in towns. they could only charge them overnight, as otherwise it would overload the national grid
In its current form, i doubt electric cars and especially commercial vehicles being the norm is still many years away

lpg diesel and petrol will still be available for the next generation
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When it does reach tipping point it'll happen very quickly - a number of car manufacturers have no future plans for ICE vehicles and must therefore see electric vehicles arriving en masse in the near (ish) future.
 
We lost one LPG outlet and gained one.. Turned out to be a good deal as the one we lost was at a BP garage and in typical BP fashion was the most expensive for miles around.. The one that was installed is at the Harvester Garage on the A134 Bury Rd, here in Thetford
And we still have the main Calor outlet at Bury St Edmunds too
 
I reckon the need to keep freight traffic moving, and the new super clean engine tech will ensure diesel supplies will outlast my 2019 vans life. it will be interesting to see how lpg develops....

I don’t plan to make any changes in the short term, but if I ever did think about it, l’ll be checking the costs of changing to diesel before commiting to anything
 
Yes its getting harder to find an LPG pump near us,the nearest at present are both Shell, which have already admitted that they will be removing them due to lack of volume sales in LPG.
I found this link below, as usual The UK is well behind the fold in offering incentives to buyers of ICE vehicles, not in the least surprising.
Les

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tonyidle said:
When it does reach tipping point it'll happen very quickly - a number of car manufacturers have no future plans for ICE vehicles and must therefore see electric vehicles arriving en masse in the near (ish) future.
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And how are we going to charge these E vehicles? Should think a quarter of motorists can not park within two or three hundred yards of their houses,,some not even on the same street.plus we don't have enough power stations to generate the leccy required..Another point,where is the Government going to recover the revinue they will loose with the decline of petrol and diesel vehicles,,ie fuel and road tax.BUSBY.

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Of all the refillable suppliers/fitters selling us these bottles and saying how good they are,how many have installed filling facilities at their premises?
 
My local BP (A23 at Hickstead) is closed whilst being refurbished and the LPG pump is not being replaced.
 
pappajohn said:
Doubt it Al, electric is the new LPG.
Large petrol engines are slowly becoming a thing of the past.
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Whilst we know petrol engines will die out and become a thing of the past this sound is highly evocative (don't watch the cobbled together video) just close your eyes you can almost smell the exhaust ;)
 
busby said:
And how are we going to charge these E vehicles? Should think a quarter of motorists can not park within two or three hundred yards of their houses,,some not even on the same street.plus we don't have enough power stations to generate the leccy required..Another point,where is the Government going to recover the revinue they will loose with the decline of petrol and diesel vehicles,,ie fuel and road tax.BUSBY.
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OFGEM's report in 2018 stated it expected large vans/HGV's etc to run on "gas" in the future. Reading between the lines it only has electrical generation capacity for EV cars. Things are shaping up nicely for a perfect storm of to much demand and useless renewables not supplying demand......we shall see what happens when XR supporters cant charge their iPhones or use their PC's ;)

I expect the interim plan is for banding electricity charges, so in Scotland as well as paying to park your car at work you will probably end up charging your EV at the peak charge band time and of course pay extra tax on that EV electricity via your smart meter system.....

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