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Not fishing Jim, just saw this whilst looking for a two-way bottle valve, so thought to ask.
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Alugas are lighter than Gaslow. Not sure on price but I think comparable. Well pleased with ours.May just go for a couple of Gasflow bottles then.
Legal....Definitely not. Desirable....If you know what you are doing and are confident in what you are doing...Definitely... As with most things in life, its entirely up to the individual. Calor thankfully do not have a monopoly on my bottles as they don't belong to them, they are German.
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You probably only need one, you just refill when passing a convenient station.May just go for a couple of Gasflow bottles then.
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With LPG at the pumps at around 70p per ltr, and a bottle of gas now having risen to about £28.00, (13 kg), then the same would cost around 18 quid from a garage pump. Strange, when you consider full VAT is charged on LPG for vehicles, but at only 8%(?) when used for cooking, ie, bottled gas. Someone is making a hefty buck, Calor for instance.......
As already said, not illegal, no different to filling a gaslow bottle. The pump will switch off when 80% limit has been reached so no worries there. a decent adapter will have the 80% number of litre stamped on it anyway so easy anyway. I used one for years before I got a van with a fixed underslung tank. Gas companies try to ban their use because they are charging double the cost of refilling, a monopoly simple as that. It's years since I bought a bottle of gas so when I had to replace a small 3.5kg bottle recently I was horrified that it cost £15.99 for a refill, a massive ripoff.
I have 2 x 13 kg Calor Bottles in my vans gas locker.
26 litres at the pumps costs approximately £0.70/l = £18.20
My local Calor supplier charges £20.95 for for a 13 kg refill.
So for a saving of £2.75 per 13kg bottle is it worth it.
Though I can see it being handy in an emergency...........
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May just go for a couple of Gasflow bottles then.
You're lucky Callum. Normal Calor price is £27.25 (6Kg are £20.75).I have 2 x 13 kg Calor Bottles in my vans gas locker.
26 litres at the pumps costs approximately £0.70/l = £18.20
My local Calor supplier charges £20.95 for for a 13 kg refill.
So for a saving of £2.75 per 13kg bottle is it worth it.
Though I can see it being handy in an emergency...........
The products referred to in the OP are not "decent adapters" though. Even the listing says "To avoid overfilling be most careful! Remember always refill only total empty bottles!" - indicating that it is a fallacy that "The pump will switch off when 80% limit has been reached so no worries there".As already said, not illegal, no different to filling a gaslow bottle. The pump will switch off when 80% limit has been reached so no worries there. a decent adapter will have the 80% number of litre stamped on it anyway so easy anyway. I used one for years before I got a van with a fixed underslung tank. Gas companies try to ban their use because they are charging double the cost of refilling, a monopoly simple as that. It's years since I bought a bottle of gas so when I had to replace a small 3.5kg bottle recently I was horrified that it cost £15.99 for a refill, a massive ripoff.
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Is there really any such thing as a "decent adapter" which automatically cuts off at 80%? If so, exactly how do they work?
If you want refillable bottles, my advice is to buy the approved kit.
No such adapter exists...
however, in defense of those who 'break the law' by using them.. the 80% fill does not need to be calculated .. this has already been determined by the bottle supplier.
2lt of gas is equal to 1kg , so if you are filling an EMPTY 6kg bottle, it takes 12lt .. that is 80% of the bottle capacity .
When full time. 2008/9 .. and on a site for a few months in winter, I had a 19kg Propane bottle and refilled at the local garage with 38lt ... attendant never bothered.. since then things have tightened up and I doubt you would get away doing that today .
If you want refillable bottles, my advice is to buy the approved kit.
The operative words highlighted - different from the intention of the seller in the OP. The adapters are being sold for use by untrained people who may well not have the sense to ensure how much gas is left in the bottle and to calculate what the 80% cut off is.Or move to Canada or New Zealand, in both these countries its normal to refill plain steel cylinders. Not by the use but the station operator, The cylinder is weighed to determine how much gas is still in the cylinder and then the amount of gas to bring it up to 80% is added. Simple no wasted gas, you don't run out by letting the cylinder get completely empty. My friend in Canada says he refills his BBQ cylinder once a season. In New Zealand The LPG pump includes a set of scales and automatically calculates the amount of gas to bring the cylinder up to full charge.
Recharging LPG cylinders can be handled differently. Remember rip off Britain is alive and well, its living in Calor.
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