Are These Things Legal?

scotjimland

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Not fishing Jim, just saw this whilst looking for a two-way bottle valve, so thought to ask.
No probs.. I thought you were on a fishing trip, been argued about on here so often..

My take..

Not Illegal ... safe if you know EXACTLY what you are doing.. I've used.

If you have to ask how to use.. dangerous...

Most forecourt operators will stop you if they see you using.. the reason why bottles are filled in the back of pick-up trucks .. and car boots

Calor say they will prosecute if they catch anyone trying to refill one of their bottles..
 
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Found the Calor waring

Calor warns about unlawful filling of LPG cylinders at Autogas refuelling sites
Posted on: Monday, August 19, 2013

Calor Gas Limited has issued a safety warning following reports of unlawful and dangerous filling of its portable LPG cylinders at self-service Autogas refuelling sites.
Highly dangerous

Calor has become aware of increasing numbers of people using adaptors to fill LPG cylinders from Autogas dispensers. This practice is not only unlawful but also highly dangerous as there is a strong probability of leaks occurring and cylinders being overfilled.

The filling of LPG cylinders is potentially an extremely hazardous activity, and safe filling requires appropriate expertise and training of operators, use of certified equipment, safe working procedures and a safe environment. Automotive LPG filling stations incorporate safety measures to ensure the safe refuelling of vehicles but they do not include all of the necessary safety elements required for filling LPG cylinders. Furthermore, commercial LPG is supplied in two forms – propane and butane – and filling a cylinder with the wrong type of LPG can lead to serious appliance malfunction and can cause safety devices to fail.

Members of the public who refill LPG cylinders using Autogas refuelling equipment not only create a serious risk to their own safety and the safety of others, but are also contravening UK Health and Safety Regulations, Weights and Measures Regulations and Consumer Safety legislation. These Regulations impose important legal duties on the site operator to ensure the safety of both their employees and members of the public. In the event of an accident as a result of this type of activity, the site operator could be liable to prosecution. Calor is therefore urging Autogas refuelling site operators to be vigilant and take appropriate action to prevent the unlawful and potentially dangerous re-filling cylinders in this manner.

Dr Terry Ritter, Calor’s Head of Health and Safety said “The public might think it is an easy and convenient way to top up a cylinder, but they are actually putting themselves and others at risk of serious injury or even death. Calor has taken successful court action against individuals for unauthorised filling and will continue to do so.”
 
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With LPG at the pumps at around 70p per ltr, and a bottle of gas now having risen to about £28.00, (13 kg), then the same would cost around 18 quid from a garage pump. Strange, when you consider full VAT is charged on LPG for vehicles, but at only 8%(?) when used for cooking, ie, bottled gas. Someone is making a hefty buck, Calor for instance.......
 
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May just go for a couple of Gasflow bottles then.
 

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Legal....Definitely not. Desirable....If you know what you are doing and are confident in what you are doing...Definitely... As with most things in life, its entirely up to the individual. Calor thankfully do not have a monopoly on my bottles as they don't belong to them, they are German.
 
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Legal....Definitely not. Desirable....If you know what you are doing and are confident in what you are doing...Definitely... As with most things in life, its entirely up to the individual. Calor thankfully do not have a monopoly on my bottles as they don't belong to them, they are German.
Thanks Dave. Nice to have your expert, (and much appreciated), opinion. :inlove::inlove:
 
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Why do they sell LPG by the litre, but cylinders go by weight ? Anyone know what volume 1kg of LPG equates to ?
 
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Only 65p a litre at my nearest garage, so filled up, took 20L so must have saved around a £ :emo:. Not really a worthwhile saving but was going to top up anyway.
smiley irrelevant but I like that one.
 
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Been using one for a couple of years. I only ever fill an empty bottle and put in just less than they show on the included conversion chart...BUSBY:cautious:
 
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