Are 3kg gas bottles sold in the UK?

[beachwomble]

I’m hoping someone has the answer as I need to decide by tomorrow morning wether to buy a new campervan. It has diesel heating but a gas water heater. This would be a German import so I would be grateful for any reliable information as I don’t want to bring a new campervan in the UK and find out I cannot get any 3kg propane gas bottles for it!

 

[Richard n Ann]

They used to, I've seen plumbers using them

 

[Spriddler]

3.9kg seems to be the smallest Calor size for propane.

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[tonyidle]

According to the Calor website the smallest is 7kg - but without one to swap I doubt any size is available.

LPG Pricing

You're in the right place for LPG prices.

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Edit: Sorry talking rubbish. But there is a supply issue at present.

 

[Landy Andy]

Does it only have room for that size cylinder?

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[beachwomble]

Does it only have room for that size cylinder?

Gaslow do a 2.7kg refillable cylinder

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Thank you. I will talk to the dealer about that.

 

[EuroTrotters]

I would look at refillable above, adding a small refillable tank or last resort , big Camping Gaz 907. 907’s (2.7kg) are widely available throughout Europe but are expensive.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Thank you. I will talk to the dealer about that.

I would look at refillable above, adding a small refillable tank or last resort , big Camping Gaz 907. 907’s (2.7kg) are widely available throughout Europe but are expensive

 

[beachwomble]

Some great input so far, thanks. Are LPG refillable stations available throughout Europe?

 

[Landy Andy]

Yes

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[Richard n Ann]

Some great input so far, thanks. Are LPG refillable stations available throughout Europe?

There's a couple of apps with all the stations on - Fill LPG and My LPG

 

[beachwomble]

Sweaty pants time as I’ve put an order for the van. I have however a 4 weeks cooling period if It is not possible to do a LPG conversion as the gas cabinet is in an awkward position. There may just be the space to make the LPG connecting hole at the end of the kitchen cabinet rear panel where it meets the fly screen brush. The gas locker is under the kitchen sink.

 

[Landy Andy]

Any idea of the size of the locker.

 

[chaser]

Sweaty pants time as I’ve put an order for the van. I have however a 4 weeks cooling period if It is not possible to do a LPG conversion as the gas cabinet is in an awkward position. There may just be the space to make the LPG connecting hole at the end of the kitchen cabinet rear panel where it meets the fly screen brush. The gas locker is under the kitchen sink.<Broken link removed><Broken link removed><Broken link removed>

I'm afraid you are going to come into some adverse comments soon, about airtight gas cupboards and gas drop outs.

 

[beachwomble]

Any idea of the size of the locker.

58cm high with a 7cm lip at the bottom.
38cm wide.
32cm deep.

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[cmcardle75]

58cm high with a 7cm lip at the bottom.
38cm wide.
32cm deep.View attachment 532754

You could fit up to a 7.5kg Safefill with those dimensions available. Diameter 307mm, height 490mm. You could almost fit a 11kg Gaslow, but it would probably be too tight for comfort.

 

[beachwomble]

I'm afraid you are going to come into some adverse comments soon, about airtight gas cupboards and gas drop outs.

I welcome any constructive comments as I am still on the stand at Caravan Salon. The door is sealed and there is an evacuation grill on the floor. I know Germans don’t go for LPG as much as in Britain but I hope German safety standards match UK ones. The diameter of the bracket on the floor to hold the bottle is 22cm.

 

[Landy Andy]

So a 6kg calor would also fit.

 

[Landy Andy]

I thought ALL gas lockers and areas had to have gas drop vents. The only things that don’t are boats. But they aren’t blowing up every 5 mins.

 

[chaser]

I welcome any constructive comments as I am still on the stand at Caravan Salon. The door is sealed and there is an evacuation grill on the floor. I know Germans don’t go for LPG as much as in Britain but I hope German safety standards match UK ones. The diameter of the bracket on the floor to hold the bottle is 22cm.

Yes ,sorry mate hadn't seen the slots in the white thing on the floor, and it certainly looks big enough for a normal propane.

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[cmcardle75]

I thought ALL gas lockers and areas had to have gas drop vents. The only things that don’t are boats. But they aren’t blowing up every 5 mins.

And they'd be sinking every 5 minutes if you did drill a drop vent!

The rules for LPG on boats is actually much stricter than on road vehicles, as LPG is heavier than air and will collect in bilges and get to an explosive concentration pretty easily.

 

[Landy Andy]

And they'd be sinking every 5 minutes if you did drill a drop vent!

The rules for LPG on boats is actually much stricter than on road vehicles, as LPG is heavier than air and will collect in bilges and get to an explosive concentration pretty easily.

Yes I know. That’s my point.

 

[cmcardle75]

Sweaty pants time as I’ve put an order for the van. I have however a 4 weeks cooling period if It is not possible to do a LPG conversion as the gas cabinet is in an awkward position. There may just be the space to make the LPG connecting hole at the end of the kitchen cabinet rear panel where it meets the fly screen brush.

BTW, what do you actually mean by "do a LPG conversion". It already appears to have LPG appliances.

 

[beachwomble]

You could fit up to a 7.5kg Safefill with those dimensions available. Diameter 307mm, height 490mm. You could almost fit a 11kg Gaslow, but it would probably be too tight for comfort.

So a 6kg calor would also fit. You are going to use very very little gas if just hob.

Thank you, encouraging comments! The brochure says 3kg gasvorrat though. The model at the show is a prototype and the brochure has been rushed through so the salesman told me there could be changes. I had planned to buy another camper but when I saw the price of this one I took a closer look and put an order in! A Clever Vans from the Pössl Group with a killer price tag! Probably the cheapest van at the show with a 2 year waiting list now

 

[beachwomble]

BTW, what do you actually mean by "do a LPG conversion". It already appears to have LPG appliances.

The cabinet is for a propane gas bottle. There is no external outlet for a LPG refill.

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[Landy Andy]

It appears to me that the size of the gas locker is reasonable for a pvc, and there are a few options of a cylinder to fit in there. Unslung and that cupboard for storage would be the best.
Another option maybe a safefill cylinder, I don’t know the sizes of them.

 

[cmcardle75]

The cabinet is for a propane gas bottle. There is no external outlet for a LPG refill.

Ah. The Safefill bottle wouldn't need that. You can remove it from the vehicle for refilling, although many petrol stations won't allow it, thinking you're filling up a rented bottle, which is dangerous and illegal.

Other refillable bottle typically do have the ability to run an external fill point.

 

[Lenny HB]

I hope German safety standards match UK ones.

Higher, regulators have overpressure valve on them, Motorhomes have to have a gas safety check every two years.

 

[Nanniemate]

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[Spriddler]

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Good to know they haven't discontinued them since last night (post #3).

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