Anybody know how this happened (1 Viewer)

[Phill D]

that depends how powerful the rifle is and the subsequent muzzle velocity but it would not be that far

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On average a . 177 air rifle has a range of about 400 yards (366 metres) but for some models, this distance can be slightly further.
One drawback of the .22 cal pellet is that it has the shortest range of the 3 calibers. The effective range of this caliber is around 45-50 yards depending on the pellet. However, you can get within 50 yards of most varmint so range should not be an issue.

 

[pappajohn]

I very much doubt it is an airgun pellet. At 10m a pistol or rifle pellet will tear a whole in and out of a alli can. Now I have no idea how thick the aluminium panel is, but I would expect more damage than that close up and yes I know of the polystyrene behind. Further, if it hit straight on then the rebound could be many yards away. Even on a ten metre range you often feel them coming back and why you should always wear eye protection, so unless you are lucky you won't find it. So as you live in the middle of nowhere, then maybe it was an accident from open land opposite, with a miss, these things can travel for a mile with a decent rifle and alternatively if they were outside your house then you might have even heard it go off. Now you are confused.

I doubt very much it was intentional Mike, the rifle could have been 100mtrs or more away and the shooter not giving any consideration as to where his/her pellet might end up.

 

[pappajohn]

QUOTE! "these things can travel for a mile with a decent rifle..." wow ..an Air Rifle" I must say that does rather surprises me. and I am very familiar with fire arms.

Surprises me too..... Maybe a true sport rifle, as in Olympic sport, but not your average BSA or Diane shop bought air rifle.
They are legally restricted to 12ftlb muzzle pressure unlike the BSA METEOR etc of 40 years ago.

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[bigfoot]

I think it was probably little Tyler or Chardonnay trying out their Christmas bikes!

 

[Phill D]

Surprises me too..... Maybe a true sport rifle, as in Olympic sport, but not your average BSA or Diane shop bought air rifle.

even the most powerful " Gamo Magnum" they zero at 30 / 40 meters although will travel a hell of a lot further but to get any sort of accuracy in grouping 50 meters...

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

Have a .177 air rifle that I bought from the gun shop secondhand , chap said it had been “played with”!!
At about 30m pellet went straight through a fence panel, did panic as Mrs CCs car was the other side

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[Lanerboy]

Have a .177 air rifle that I bought from the gun shop secondhand , chap said it had been “played with”!

So you now have a FAC rated gun with no licence i would take it back to the shop if i were you or hand it in to the police

Unless you hold a valid FAC ticket like i do you should not own that rifle

 

[Gromett]

Hi Paul,

Sorry to hear about the damage mate.

Give this guy a call (Mark from Dent-Tek) on 07852 953460.

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Nicky and I have used him twice before to remove the dents from a small car and also from my pimped-up Landrover Defender after they both received hail damage.

He'll be able to advise.

All the best,

Andrew

My guess is that it won't work. Dent removal on cars works due to it being steel which can be manipulated. I suspect the rear of the van is alumium which I don't think dent removal works on?
I could be wrong though.

 

[Yorick]

Gassing is so last year. Now they're getting serious and buying guns.

Be careful out there.

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

So you now have a FAC rated gun with no licence i would take it back to the shop if i were you or hand it in to the police

Unless you hold a valid FAC ticket like i do you should not own that rifle

Had it for about 6 years so bit late now.
only use it in the garden every now and then.

 

[ambulancekidd]

Put a sticker over it. Seems like GB stickers will be coming back into fashion any time soon.

That'd have my vote too.
Aluminium is notoriously difficult to repair.
We had a brand new twin axle caravan which was dented a few years ago, so I bought a genuine makers chrome badge & applied it carefully & you'd never have known that there had been anything wrong.

I'm about to do the same to our motorhome which has GRP sides, we believe that the guy who did our house roof repairs knocked it with a ladder, so I'm going to fill it, then apply????? You've guessed it, a genuine makers chrome badge.

 

[CazPaul]

I think it was probably little Tyler or Chardonnay trying out their Christmas bikes!

No kids round here and far far too high on the rear panel

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[DavidG58]

do you carry fishing rods that stick out the front, more Scotland than North Yorks, but just wondered

I would be disappointed but over it as quickly, by next weekend you will have hopefully nearly forgotten

IMO not worth the cost of repair, or worse, the risk of actually highlighting a bigger area

 

[vin0114]

If you fire an air rifle up in to the air how far can the pellet travel then , just out of curiosity.

if your aim is perfectly vertcal, the missile will descend and hit you where you stand. If you fire a 0.177 lead pellet 4.5mm dia, 8.4grains at a 45degree angle at 12 ft/lbs legal max( none fac) probablly anything up to 120yds.

 

[CazPaul]

do you carry fishing rods that stick out the front, more Scotland than North Yorks, but just wondered

I would be disappointed but over it as quickly, by next weekend you will have hopefully nearly forgotten

IMO not worth the cost of repair, or worse, the risk of actually highlighting a bigger area

I hope so David but not convinced, will wash and polish the rear panel tomorrow and see the damage, it was really clean today though when I noticed it.

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[treetops1]

I think it may have being done by a gun that fires plastic pellets.The are quite lethal and do explode on contact .leaving no trace .

 

[Spriddler]

I think it may have being done by a gun that fires plastic pellets.The are quite lethal and do explode on contact .leaving no trace .

So what caused the dent then?

 

[CazPaul]

So what caused the dent then?

Yes that's what I'd love to know, how can it just appear, the middle of nowhere, up on the moors, no kids round here

It wasn't there before so it's not from a truck/stone damage on the road

It looks like a gun pellet or the tip of a brolley brayed hard against it etc.

It's a mystery, could a bird have flown into it, a crow, bird of prey, etc

I saw a Hen Harrier yesterday.

I have to put it down to malicious damage, ie, someone has pulled up outside in a car and deliberately damaged it.

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[pappajohn]

It's a mystery, could a bird have flown into it, a crow, bird of prey, etc

I saw a Hen Harrier yesterday.

Nah... A bird strike would have left a definate outline, even on a clean surface.

We had a pigeon fly into our lounge window and you could see a clear bird shaped mark complete with outstretched wings.

 

[icantremember]

If it's random (not targeted) malicious damage from a passing vehicle there will almost certainly be further cases around the area so it definitely should be reported to the police.

 

[Just smiffy]

BB gun or air rifle is my guess... anyone objecting to your garage plan application..?

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[bigfoot]

No kids round here and far far too high on the rear panel

I had a similar mark on one of my vans and that was too high until a neighbour told me that some local wildlife were doing 'wheelies' along the pavement

 

[CazPaul]

I had a similar mark on one of my vans and that was too high until a neighbour told me that some local wildlife were doing 'wheelies' along the pavement

Impossible it's up a gravelled drive behind a steel gate.

 

[CazPaul]

BB gun or air rifle is my guess... anyone objecting to your garage plan application..?

Yes that's already crossed my mind, I don't think so though although you never know
Fingers crossed should hear the council said roughly middle of January

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[bigtree]

I think it may have being done by a gun that fires plastic pellets.The are quite lethal and do explode on contact .leaving no trace .

Not powerful enough to do that much damage.

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

the middle of nowhere, up on the moors

Was it on a full moon??

 

[Lanerboy]

Air rifle or pistol, dent is very defined and what ever did it must have had a fair bit of power to do that
No bird or seagul dropping stuff on it wouldn't do that its a gun of some sort in my opinion

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[SuperMike]

I doubt very much it was intentional Mike, the rifle could have been 100mtrs or more away and the shooter not giving any consideration as to where his/her pellet might end up.

Indeed Uncle PPJ you are correct, I also thought similar. That is the trouble with hobby type shooters they never think correctly, and rarely consider the need for a back stop.

Surprises me too..... Maybe a true sport rifle, as in Olympic sport, but not your average BSA or Diane shop bought air rifle.
They are legally restricted to 12ftlb muzzle pressure unlike the BSA METEOR etc of 40 years ago.

My Feinwerkbau model 800, a true sport rifle, at 0.177, is insanely accurate standing, at a relatively short range of 10m and has next to no kick. Where as, my Weihrauch HW100, a field target rifle, will zero on a suspended golf ball at 60m, on a rest, at .177 and fully charged, and will occasionally go supersonic. Even that tiny pellet will give out a grand crack as it does so. I was always taught and now myself teach one mile, in open air, to be sure.

No.2 son can see the air disturbance of the pellet as it flies, to guide this old boy onto target.

 

[Scotch mist]

Problem is though a GB sticker or reflector stuck in the middle of the rear panel, it won't look right

A bit of filler and then a good paint job?

I would use silicone applied with a wet credit card to fill hole then then put a sticker on it
I can highly recommend this one lol

 

[mike mcglynn]

I had a similar dent at the back of my van which was parked right up my drive then a few weeks later I had another dent at the same height , after much investigation it turned out that my short sighted old neighbour was pushing our empty wheelie bin back up the drive after being emptied back up our drive until it would not go any further

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