Am I alone?

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Am I alone?

Do not get me wrong, I am not hopelessly lacking in skills or knowledge. Vehicles especially were never a problem from leaving school, in fact I was the one family members brought vehicles to for repair and especially tuning at home.

Then, work gradually took over and the balance between being desperate for cash and doing everything on the cheap including getting parts from scrapyards, was gradually taken over by my lack of time due to work and earning more at work. The bottle jack and car axle stands became a thing of the past, and over time garages took over servicing as well.

Then, technology took over. A look under the bonnet showed a big keep out cover, and the gubbins under that cover became a mystery. It now needs computers with special programs before a spanner or screwdriver is needed. All kinds of screw heads exist, and even basic electrical connections show torque settings needed in some instructions.

So, along comes a large motorhome and any hope that my little jack or axle stands are safe is out of the window. There is no big cover over the engine, but the electronics are a myth to me. Our Autotrail’s had an accessible wiring diagram that reminded me of similar in my old car and Haynes manuals that I had no problems understanding, but my Rapido does not, and nor can I find one on the web anywhere.

Now finding myself in the lithium minefield, I am finding so much conflicting advice I am beginning to think it is me.

I do not seem to have any of the skills needed. Even though it did not need a detailed existing wiring diagram, just looking where to run a solo 3 core cable to and from became an impossible task. At each end of the connection cables disappeared into a black hole with no idea of how or where it needed to be run to get between A and B.

What was also highlighted was even if I could run the cable I would not have the special heads to undo screws, no real understanding of electrical testing equipment, no crimping tools and no way of knowing if when I turned the key after an install there would not be lots of smoke and an insurance company saying no to a claim. The job in tools alone could cost a small fortune.

That was all reinforced in a recent thread where something was described as a simple job taking a very short time. That was the straw that broke the camels back.

I do know I can look to YouTube, but that seems to be full of the same which expert do I believe material. Even with my skills one persons video of fitting a diesel heater got me to question all the other advice they had given. Back to the selection of which expert(s) are the ones whose advice we mere mortals need to follow.

So, am I alone, or are others out there having similar issues?
 
Nope youre not alone.
The use of microprocessors in (close to) everything turning previously repairable "stuff" into disposable items infuriates me.
I too apply caution to the massed ranks of youtube "experts" but I have gained much useful information from some.
 
I think most of us look under the bonnet and scratch out heads wondering where the points and coil are.
Things are a little different on the motorhome, (2003 2.8 jtd) I'm finding it relatively simple to do routine service items which I'm finding satisfying and also saving a load of cash and know the job is done properly.
I friend has paid his trusted garage to service his motorhome for five years yet when he had occasion to look at the air filter it was minging, despite being only three months after a full service ☹️
 
Youtube has been a great help to me on at least 2 occasions...I agree about the "which expert" bit though...I tend to view the shorter videos rather than the 30-minute-plus ones, which can just get boring.
 
I think most of us look under the bonnet and scratch out heads wondering where the points and coil are.
Things are a little different on the motorhome, (2003 2.8 jtd) I'm finding it relatively simple to do routine service items which I'm finding satisfying and also saving a load of cash and know the job is done properly.
I friend has paid his trusted garage to service his motorhome for five years yet when he had occasion to look at the air filter it was minging, despite being only three months after a full service ☹️

I am another grateful for having a 2003 2.8jtd, which I hope will go on for many years(only 55.000 miles)

I do not do my own servicing, but know that I could if needs be.

Geoff

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No you are not alone I do my best but have to admit the majority of times I am flummoxed it’s a good job we have this forum to use to provide questions for those in the know.🤔😂
 
You‘re certainly not alone. And if like me, you find the stuff available on internet to vary from useful to utterly confusing and useless, then it all becomes a bit hit and miss. You need to find experts like some who post here and learn to trust them by their approach to critics and other feedback.
Generally, those most able and ‘in the know’ do not respond hostilely to someone querying an assertion, instead explaining, courteously, why they hold the opinion they do. Those experts full of hostile, personal digs at other experts, are generally less useful to those of us seeking enlightenment.
Thanks to all those who post and explain often having to do so several times to ignoramuses like me until the penny drops.
 
Im also in St Helens, and own a Rapdio where I have just fitted lithium and inverter etc.
As fo rth engine and bottle jacks, Ive been there too, and yes nowadays all electrics and gubbins, but remember engines are far more reliable these days, the electrics help to keep everything tickety boo.
If you need a mooch round mine anytime to check wiring/accessories etc or want me to take a look at mine for you Id be happy too.
 
Until recently i had done all my own service work, re built engines, fitted Subaru engines to replace knackered Vw units.
All that changed about 3 years when i bought a new Motorbike.
The wife then got a fairly new car.
Im still happy doing brakes, bushes , oil and filter changes etc etc.
When it comes to the engine now , other than rudimentary stuff like plugs , oil and filters i leave it well alone .
The bikes and cars go to a garage now for that .
So, you are not alone.
Sounds like there are plenty on here that are the same.

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Im also in St Helens, and own a Rapdio where I have just fitted lithium and inverter etc.
As fo rth engine and bottle jacks, Ive been there too, and yes nowadays all electrics and gubbins, but remember engines are far more reliable these days, the electrics help to keep everything tickety boo.
If you need a mooch round mine anytime to check wiring/accessories etc or want me to take a look at mine for you Id be happy too.
Only on Fun with Funsters. thank you for your understanding and very kind offer.
 
I'm not supple enough to do anything much with motor vehicles. If I got under one I would never manage to get up again without a hoist to get me upright again! Luckily there is a motor mechanic where we live and he is brilliant - does all our servicing and repairs and has done so for almost 20 years. His son is taking over the business bit by bit :)
 
I'm not supple enough to do anything much with motor vehicles. If I got under one I would never manage to get up again
Hi.
" SNAP " Just seen Paulo,my go to mechanic nowadays. When he knew i was getting rid of the Renault Master PVC and getting a Fiat Ducato he said. " BAD MOVE,,,there is NO room under the bonnet , unlike the Renault " Thats true.....Even the Ducato windscreen washer bottle filler/topper up,has its own " FIAT special Part " number....DOH !!!. But included in the bigger picture is this. Be careful who you fall out with,if you get knocked down........................... game over.
Tea Bag. 🚑 :ROFLMAO:
 
No you're not alone however it's not so much the development and/or using of more complex tech but my lack of wanting to do some of the stuff. I've always done DIY and hab stuff in our MHs/campers (not mechanical bits though) however it was a relief to be honest when we bought our Carthago and I didn't need to put in extra sockets, install solar panels, awning, camera, etc, all things which I can still do but prefer not to have to for the umpteenth time. I still tinker and do improvements/changes etc but that's from choice rather than having to do it to make it usable, eg solar panels etc.

I've learned a hell of a lot off this forum's funsters and will be forever grateful to those who are willing to impart their knowledge and support when things need clarifying. I can do a lot of stuff I wouldn't have been able to and/or wouldn't have attempted before and still have the ability to sort stuff if the need arises (eg socket stops working etc) and if not know that I can ask for help from the wonderful people on here.

Funsters rule OK! :giggle:
 
even changing brake pads is going to be a thing of the past new cars need the pistons retracted by computer
😯😯not come across that before .
I know bleeding brakes with Abs can be a Pita.

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When I brought over my 1962, 1200cc, 6volt VW Beetle from S Africa, my then girlfriend watched me checking the oil level and said, “gee how useful; a spare engine in the back!”. Didn’t disabuse her until our first trip away when I opened the bonnet to put our luggage in.

And you used to pressure the screen washer by connecting up a bicycle pump to the reservoir cap and giving it 10-15 pumps.

Them were the days! 😀
 
Switching from dynamos to alternators caused the same concerns in the past.
I was on the tools a long time ago
A lot of electronics and fuel injection systems were starting to come in then,
I knew how to sort them but that tec has now moved on
Overall I think reliability and tec has improved a lot but if it goes wrong I am now fairly stumped :unsure:
 
Habitation electrics are easy enough don't have any problems with them but can't be bothered with the engine side these days they have got far too complicated.
The car needed new front discs recently I got someone to do it a couple of years ago I would have done it myself.

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😯😯not come across that before .
I know bleeding brakes with Abs can be a Pita.
A decent EOBD reader will give you the means to replace pads on callipers with electronic handbrake control,
It’s all the many systems that need to be interrogated by a computer that got me to retire from the motor trade, I mean why should I need to tell a car that you have just changed its battery? Assuming it’s like for like, totally nonsensical IMO,
 
Switching from dynamos to alternators caused the same concerns in the past.
I was on the tools a long time ago
A lot of electronics and fuel injection systems were starting to come in then,
I knew how to sort them but that tec has now moved on
Overall I think reliability and tec has improved a lot but if it goes wrong I am now fairly stumped :unsure:
When I did my apprenticeship in the mid seventies, at my college day release. I learnt how to set up a charging regulator using feeler gauges.
When I got back to work the next day, the guys had a bit of a laugh.
Apparently British Leyland had been fitting alternators for at least the past 5 years.
When the next Morris 1000 with charging issues next came in, it was mine .
Mike
 
When exactly was "The Golden Age of Motoring" ? When I started driving in the 70's, cars often broke down, usually due to points and condenser and I can remember making replacement sills on night shift. 80's through to the 90's, things were getting better. Fast forward to today and after owning two Volvo's which we took past 200k miles each, our present Volvo has had a couple of factory recalls, had a replacement egr setup and now, if I don't put some "diesel treatment" in it every few tank fulls, I get an engine management light coming on and they call this progress ?
 
Not much has really changed in the past 25 years under the bonnet so not sure why everybody is suddenly spooked by it all? The rest is pretty much the same as 40 years ago except the dashboard and trim which has extra blingy things.
Once you get your hands mucky it soon makes sense.

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