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[grumps147]

Just a thought, as you still are technically the owner you will be entitled to check Askmid the insurance database. It's possible your insurance will still be recorded, but if you cancel it it will soon drop off. Not much consolation, but at least you have a chance of getting it stopped for having no insurance if it is still on the same plates.

 

[martin2603]

How unlucky can you get, and we, in some way or other, could all fall victim to these low life; however, re the theft, it can only be recorded as a theft when it is established that the cheque 'bounces'. This of course is no consolation. However with big brother constantly watching us
any movements should be picked up on CCTV on our trunk road system. Having seen your pics, your RV would make a good home for someone. So perhaps an eye to resident travellers sites may give a result. Meanwhile update us after the 5 day clearance has elapsed.

Keeping an eye out

 

[Jaws]

Not true if anyone tries to register it the DVLA WILL write to you, the named keeper to ask if you have parted with the vehicle at which point you say no & DVLA won't issue a new v5 until its sorted

Darrell had a motorcycle stolen. It resurfaced after about 2 years.. DVLA wrote to him.. He replied that it is a stolen vehicle and was still an active crime quoting the crime number.
I followed the letter up with a phone call a week later.
He then got a snotty letter from the DVLA asking why he had not told them of the ownership change !!
Another letter, another phone call and got no where..
The bike is ( was ) still put on the road on the original number plate and Darrell got absolutely no where

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[Badknee]

If anyone sees this vehicle on a Itinerant site the police won't go in, the only way they go onto a sit is mob handed with lots of agencies and men, I speak from experience, they won't go in.

 

[GaryW]

[QUOTE="martin2603, post: 1177601, member: 29170 , re the theft, it can only be recorded as a theft when it is established that the cheque 'bounces'. This of course is no consolation.
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Think you will find you are wrong with this Martin.

Knowing that he could not have the vehicle until the cheque cleared He dishonestly appropriated it the minute he decided to drive it away.

Plus the offence of issuing a worthless cheque ( fraud ) which will be complete when it bounces adds to his Men's Rea at the time.

 

[Judge Mental]

This guy needs taking out for a ride in the country - then beat the living crap out of him an leave him there !

If I suspect correctly its tinkers, they are a different species....they feed of us all

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[lugnutt]

If I suspect correctly its tinkers, they are a different species....they feed of us all

you are right . its my fault i was to keen to offload it but after tomorrow when police get involved i can put a clame into the insurance co its worth more on there paperwork than i was going to get off mr conman

 

[haganap]

you are right . its my fault i was to keen to offload it but after tomorrow when police get involved i can put a clame into the insurance co its worth more on there paperwork than i was going to get off mr conman

No Dave, it's not. its not your fault at all.

It is/was an act of pure greed and theft from a well versed con man... yes you may of made some errors and you don't need them pointed out.. But you did not con anyone.

 

[Judge Mental]

dont take it badly you were conned...simple as that!

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[JockandRita]

dont take it badly you were conned...simple as that!

And there but for the grace of God, go most of us.

If it wasn't you Dave, it could very well have been any one of us.

We are glad that you appear to be gaining the upper hand again.

All the best with that.

Jock & Rita.

 

[Peter JohnsCross MH]

Never ever part with your vehicle unless you have cleared funds in your bank account first, do not accept cash as it could be forged or illegal or it was known that you had it in your possession and then robbed.
A bankers draft can be forged, you need to contact issuing bank to check they issued it.
Chaps or internet transfer is preferable providing your bank confirms payment has been made into your account or you can check on line.

Peter

 

[tonyidle]

It wasn't by any chance a man in his 60's and another late 30's early 40's strong Irish accents? The older man talking constantly & assuring you of his honesty?

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[lugnutt]

It wasn't by any chance a man in his 60's and another late 30's early 40's strong Irish accents? The older man talking constantly & assuring you of his honesty?

no it was a man in his late 40 and a young teenager

 

[movan]

It wasn't by any chance a man in his 60's and another late 30's early 40's strong Irish accents? The older man talking constantly & assuring you of his honesty?

Why do you ask?

 

[jhorsf]

Do not blame yourself its the nice people that get conned the easiest

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[teddybard]

Hi old friend,
There are sadly Bast*rds everywhere who feel the need to con people
your family is one of the nicest we know and it was a pleasure to see you all at Haggers Carnage in Cranage.
Words on their own don't help a lot but please know that Sheila & I are behind you all 100% and hope things resolve themselves soon.
Best Wishes
Mr & Mrs Teddybard
(Roger & Sheila)

 

[tonyidle]

Why do you ask?

I sold my last motorhome to Irish travellers who knocked on the door. They looked like one family: Granddad who did all the talking, Dad who went fishing around the vehicle whilst Granddad distracted me, and teenager who fiddled with things. It appeared to be a well-orchestrated attempt to distract me.

After agreeing a price I sent them away asking that they return in a couple of hours to give me time to remove our remaining stuff from the van. They came back in an hour and resumed the tactics. I sold the van at a low price anyway. Then Dad spotted my generator & asked if it was for sale - I agreed it was, we shook hands on a price & in the confusion they took it without paying for it. Later I discovered my toolbox, that was on the driver's seat of the van whilst we were clearing it, was missing. Granddad spent a lot of time trying to convince me he was honest, teenager kept starting the van, revving it up, then stopping it. All in all, although I thought I had my few remaining wits about me, the experience left me with the feeling that I was out-of-pocket by more than I should have been. They gave me the impression it was all a well-rehearsed act.

 

[movan]

I sold my last motorhome to Irish travellers who knocked on the door. They looked like one family: Granddad who did all the talking, Dad who went fishing around the vehicle whilst Granddad distracted me, and teenager who fiddled with things. It appeared to be a well-orchestrated attempt to distract me.

After agreeing a price I sent them away asking that they return in a couple of hours to give me time to remove our remaining stuff from the van. They came back in an hour and resumed the tactics. I sold the van at a low price anyway. Then Dad spotted my generator & asked if it was for sale - I agreed it was, we shook hands on a price & in the confusion they took it without paying for it. Later I discovered my toolbox, that was on the driver's seat of the van whilst we were clearing it, was missing. Granddad spent a lot of time trying to convince me he was honest, teenager kept starting the van, revving it up, then stopping it. All in all, although I thought I had my few remaining wits about me, the experience left me with the feeling that I was out-of-pocket by more than I should have been. They gave me the impression it was all a well-rehearsed act.

Crumbs, it is a scary business isn't it... This is one time I hate being lone woman when selling things and they come to look at them... I always end up feeling I have been fleeced. usually because I start feeling uneasy and agree to whatever, just to get rid of them.

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[lugnutt]

Update...Prior to my appointment at the police station they phoned me to inform me i had to register Action Fraud which i did ,to get a ref no and password as the police cannot do anything without this i then turn up for my appointment and explained all to the officer,only to be told it is still a civil case as i had entered the contract verbally,with mr conman.even if the cheque bounced.Left the police station and went to the bank and found that it had indeed bounced.Went to the pub to drown sorows and taxi home when i rceived a phone call from police saying action fraud had given me the wrong code and i have to go back again tomorrow as they now veiw it as a crime.I will receive a crime number tomorrow update tomorrow

 

[Bailey58]

So hopefully with a crime number you'll be able to involve your Insurance Company?

 

[Puddleduck]

You couldn't make it up.......

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[Chris]

Update...Prior to my appointment at the police station they phoned me to inform me i had to register Action Fraud which i did ,to get a ref no and password as the police cannot do anything without this i then turn up for my appointment and explained all to the officer,only to be told it is still a civil case as i had entered the contract verbally,with mr conman.even if the cheque bounced.Left the police station and went to the bank and found that it had indeed bounced.Went to the pub to drown sorows and taxi home when i rceived a phone call from police saying action fraud had given me the wrong code and i have to go back again tomorrow as they now veiw it as a crime.I will receive a crime number tomorrow update tomorrow

Glad the police are being so efficient

Meanwhile the bloody con merchant has your van..

I really hope they pull their finger out tomorrow.

 

[scousebird]

So this happened on Friday night and the police have just decided to get involved? Doesn't matter how it happened your vehicle was stolen, they should have responded sooner IMO

Hope it all works out for you, either you get it back or the insurance sort it.

 

[maison]

What a horrible event!

Even if you hadn't used it much in the last two years it's the principle of a conniving ba***d getting away with it that rankles.

Good luck with the insurance claim.

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[chaser]

Update...Prior to my appointment at the police station they phoned me to inform me i had to register Action Fraud which i did ,to get a ref no and password as the police cannot do anything without this i then turn up for my appointment and explained all to the officer,only to be told it is still a civil case as i had entered the contract verbally,with mr conman.even if the cheque bounced.Left the police station and went to the bank and found that it had indeed bounced.Went to the pub to drown sorows and taxi home when i rceived a phone call from police saying action fraud had given me the wrong code and i have to go back again tomorrow as they now veiw it as a crime.I will receive a crime number tomorrow update tomorrow

Sign of the bloody times, I was the first to embrace computers in our village and set up loads of fellow villagers and got plenty of ridiculing off my farming friends who said it was rubbish and they would never get into them, but now I have compleatly u turned and while everyone now is ruled by computers and databases and passwords before they can get out of bed , this forum is about all I use it for now. Get out and look for the bloody thing never mind the computer.

 

[joncris]

Don't want to be a wet blanket but because you allowed him to have the keys your insurer may decide you were negligent and refuse your claim. They've done it before eg when people have left their key in the ignition whilst paying for fuel and I see this as being similar BUT I might be wrong and the insurer could play ball this time

 

[joncris]

In 2002 they tried 4 times to nick my new twin axle caravan, they didn't succeed as it was fitted with a concealed restraint called a Mule and could not be towed but they did do a lot a damage trying. Therefore I will never ever do business of any kind with such people nor would I when I was working. If they tried to engage my services I would say "sorry can't help" or "sorry I'm not an expert in these matters" or a simple "piss orf" would suffice

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[joncris]

What a horrible event!

Even if you hadn't used it much in the last two years it's the principle of a conniving ba***d getting away with it that rankles.

Good luck with the insurance claim.

Sorry but whats the OP's use got to do with it, The OP owns the van and the cretin stole it end of.
I must say I do admire the OP's coolness under fire. As for me I'd be hunting the toerag down with bloody dogs if necessary and when caught he'd certainly feel 'my' pain

 

[joncris]

Never ever part with your vehicle unless you have cleared funds in your bank account first, do not accept cash as it could be forged or illegal or it was known that you had it in your possession and then robbed.
A bankers draft can be forged, you need to contact issuing bank to check they issued it.
Chaps or internet transfer is preferable providing your bank confirms payment has been made into your account or you can check on line.

Peter

About bank drafts I disagree I would never accept a bank draft as they are easily forged. Also its not unknown that the bank draft is genuine as there's money in the account but once accepted by the seller the cash is very swiftly withdrawn by the fraudster before the draft arrives at their bank

 

[Bailey58]

maison said: ↑
What a horrible event!

Even if you hadn't used it much in the last two years it's the principle of a conniving ba***d getting away with it that rankles.

Good luck with the insurance claim.

Sorry but whats the OP's use got to do with it, The OP owns the van and the cretin stole it end of.
I must say I do admire the OP's coolness under fire. As for me I'd be hunting the toerag down with bloody dogs if necessary and when caught he'd certainly feel 'my' pain

The point maison was making was the OP himself had said he hadn't used it much and had another van so wasn't as concerned as he might be. (My words, it's too far back to check).

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