A question of SOG (1 Viewer)

[filopastry]

Hope some of you never park within many miles of a farm, it's only a bit of poo .... ah the blessed aromas of nature .

 

[mfw]

Hope some of you never park within many miles of a farm, it's only a bit of poo .... ah the blessed aromas of nature .

Least they wont of had a vindaloo and a few beers the night before

 

[Jands]

Farms smell of herbivore manure which, apart from spreading on fields isn't too bad.
Also, good idea no3 you can use dried cow pats as frisbee's.
Your sog smells of last night's real ale and lamb bhuna. Onion bhaji and garlic naan.

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[Lenny HB]

The vent tube fitting replaces the pressure relief valve, and the filter is on the outside of the door

That is not the normal way of fitting them

 

[tonyidle]

Least they wont of had a vindaloo and a few beers the night before

You can't be certain of that if goats are involved .

 

[JJ]

As the aroma generated by my use of the smallest room is so pleasantly fragrant, surely it would be selfish of me not to share it out?

Isn't that what the Smelly Old Gadgets do


JJ

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[JJ]

Hope some of you never park within many miles of a farm

Or Spain...


JJ

 

[mfw]

Some toilets on some vans being on same side as awning or venting by awning would pong out youre own eating area first so i wonder how many people have ended up in that situation and then regretted it if you got to go you got to go

 

[DavidG58]

For the UK the cassette is ideal..

Agree 100%, I wasn’t proposing that black tanks are better

Our black tank came with ours and swapping to cassette is virtually impossible, we do at least have a macerator on the way into the black tank rather than out but agree with you on dump options

I would want a cassette on next MH but would need a lot of convincing to fit a SOG and may not buy one that has one

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[maxi77]

The principle of the SOG is that aerobic that is with air, decomposition of the contents produces little or no odour whilst anaerobic, does pong. The well ventilated holding tank on our last boat gave of very little odour with no filter on the vent. I suspect the reason some SOGs smell is that for some reason they admit too little air.

 

[funflair]

Agree 100%, I wasn’t proposing that black tanks are better

Our black tank came with ours and swapping to cassette is virtually impossible, we do at least have a macerator on the way into the black tank rather than out but agree with you on dump options

I would want a cassette on next MH but would need a lot of convincing to fit a SOG and may not buy one that has one

Thats interesting David as not many people say that they would go back to cassette after having a black tank, I would have SOG again ours gets a sniff test outside when its running and gets a new filter if it fails

Martin

 

[filopastry]

Some toilets on some vans being on same side as awning or venting by awning would pong out youre own eating area first so i wonder how many people have ended up in that situation and then regretted it if you got to go you got to go

Ours is on the same side as the awning .... but ..... our S**T don't smell ... much ... so there ... we usually only use ours for a midnight wee unless caught short or the loo's on a site being wholly unacceptable. With a dash of laundry stuff, just a tad, it smells rather nice really.

Clean bottoms everyone

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[TinaLes]

I am really impressed with The SOG unit on our Carthago, it vents up through the roof and there is no in line filter, great system I think.
In fact, I wish I had one at home, save opening windows or having "give that 10 minutes" Ect.
Les

 

[mfw]

In all honesty soil stacks vent above roofs irrespective whether bungalow or house untreated so would imagine roof vent as people have suggested is probably a good idea

 

[scotzsue]

We parked next to one with SOG at Canterbury. Thought we were next to a pig farm. Perhaps it needed a filter change or something but it certainly stank to high heaven.

not funny, I always look for signs of a sog before chosing a pitch after waking up almost tasting the next doors waste. know it doesn't have to be that way as we have parked next to friends with one. wouldn't consider one as our toilet is same side as the awning.

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[Basildog]

Some toilets on some vans being on same side as awning or venting by awning would pong out youre own eating area first so i wonder how many people have ended up in that situation and then regretted it if you got to go you got to go

Luckily for me I am allergic to awnings

 

[Deanobeano]

I have had another look at my unit.

There is a vent connection on the top face of the white tray the cassette slides into (the one with the sponge ring). underneath this there is a corrugated pipe that runs down to the underside of the van.

I presume that this is a std fitting to prevent 'blow offs' from bacterial activity inside the cassette.

Could a pump / fan not be fitted to this?

Its only approx 15mm diameter though.

 

[Basildog]

Thats interesting David as not many people say that they would go back to cassette after having a black tank, I would have SOG again ours gets a sniff test outside when its running and gets a new filter if it fails

Martin

We have had 2 vans with black tanks, one was a Laika and the other a Winnebago, cassette toilets are the work of the devil and in my opinion totally useless on any motorhome .
Given the choice I would have liked a marine toilet again,as our cassette is full in a day if not moving.

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[funflair]

We have had 2 vans with black tanks, one was a Laika and the other a Winnebago, cassette toilets are the work of the devil and in my opinion totally useless on any motorhome .
Given the choice I would have liked a marine toilet again,as our cassette is full in a day if not moving.

That's also interesting, we usually get 2-3 days out of the cassette with two of us depending how much we use other facilities in shops cafe's etc, I can see the merit in both systems TBH.

Martin

 

[DavidG58]

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Thats interesting David as not many people say that they would go back to cassette after having a black tank, I would have SOG again ours gets a sniff test outside when its running and gets a new filter if it fails

Martin

We have had 2 vans with black tanks, one was a Laika and the other a Winnebago, cassette toilets are the work of the devil and in my opinion totally useless on any motorhome .
Given the choice I would have liked a marine toilet again,as our cassette is full in a day if not moving.

I am probably biased due to issues we are having

An earlier owner or even maybe when made, but we suspect the fitter of the status aerial, cut through the roof mounted vent to shorten it, then never reconnected the vent hose, so we had our vent behind the wardrobe somewhere, awful smell sometimes, we did fix this (well Terry did ) but the aroma memory lives on

we then had an issue with the pre black tank macerator connection, only a small weep leak but unseen and enough to really stink, also found that it runs quite a long way on vinyl covered floor even a little liquid goes a long way

I like the idea of 2 x cassettes with proper storage as a few MH's now have, we actually carry a cassette in an outside locker, as yet still unused, so we could in emergency decant the black tank if parked up for a long time, or the dump point is at high level.

We have a manhole right by our home parking place for our MH so very lucky there. Plus when checking on sites we have found that virtually all drive over waste points are for combined waste, linking to the elsan dump points in all bar a very few cases, so low level dumping generally not too much of an issue for us

 

[Basildog]

I am probably biased due to issues we are having

An earlier owner or even maybe when made, but we suspect the fitted of the status aerial, cut through the roof mounted vent to shorten it, the never reconnected the vent hose, so we had our vent behind the wardrobe somewhere, awful smell sometimes, we did fix this (well Terry did ) but the aroma memory lives on

we then had an issue with the pre black tank macerator connection, only a small weep leak but enough to really stink, also found that it runs quite a long way on vinyl covered floor even a little liquid goes a long way

I like the idea of 2 x cassettes with proper storage as a few MH's now have, we actually carry a cassette in an outside locker, as yet still unused, so we could in emergency decant the black tank if parked up for a long time, or the dump point is at high level.

We have a manhole right by our home parking place for our MH so very lucky there. Plus when checking on sites we have found that virtually all drive over waste points are for combined waste, linking to the elsan dump points in all bar a very few cases, so low level dumping generally not too much of an issue for us

Neither of our vans with black tanks had a macerator fitted, we did buy a macerator to use on the rv in case of emergencies and only used it once at a mates where we pumped it into a hole we dug in woods.

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[Basildog]

That's also interesting, we usually get 2-3 days out of the cassette with two of us depending how much we use other facilities in shops cafe's etc, I can see the merit in both systems TBH.

Martin

Luckily I am allergic to shops and cafes, it really upsets me buying drinks out as I prefer my own tea

 

[mfw]

I have had another look at my unit.

There is a vent connection on the top face of the white tray the cassette slides into (the one with the sponge ring). underneath this there is a corrugated pipe that runs down to the underside of the van.

I presume that this is a std fitting to prevent 'blow offs' from bacterial activity inside the cassette.

Could a pump / fan not be fitted to this?

Its only approx 15mm diameter though.

There are 2 types of vent cap on C200 your type does vent pressure under van the other type vents inside locker purely for release of any pressure buildup

Someone will correct me if i'm incorrect but that is my understanding at moment

 

[denisejoe]

That is not the normal way of fitting them

What is the normal way then

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[Lenny HB]

What is the normal way then

Either cut a hole in the emptying cap, or in the top of the cassette or depending on the cassette installation can sometimes use the Thetford vent out the bottom of the cassette our last van was like that by far the best solution.

 

[denisejoe]

Why then for the c200 is a part made to replace the pressure relief valve as fitting sog makes pressure valve redundant.

 

[scotjimland]

Why then for the c200 is a part made to replace the pressure relief valve as fitting sog makes pressure valve redundant.

exactly correct.. the kit comes with a connector piece that replaces the relief valve, no cutting a hole anywhere..

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[funflair]

exactly correct.. the kit comes with a connector piece that replaces the relief valve, no cutting a hole anywhere..

That's how I fitted ours, as per instructions

Martin

 

[Lenny HB]

Why then for the c200 is a part made to replace the pressure relief valve as fitting sog makes pressure valve redundant.

C200 is an old model not seen it done like that on newer models and must make emptying a pain.

 

[scotjimland]

C200 is an old model not seen it done like that on newer models and must make emptying a pain.

no pain whatsoever.. you pull the cassette out a short way, unplug the SOG pipe and put the plastic bung in.. and off you go.. no pain

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