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It’s a battery charger thing for the leisure battery’s and has stopped making the strange noise now which is good. However, my 12v batteries are either knackered or something else is knackered As I now have no power!!!

i knew it was a fixer upper!
 
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I’d be more concerned about the availability of parts for the windows, roof lights, fly screens etc.... If they are generic bits you should Be ok but if exclusive to N&B....🤔?

Not a problem, I'm now on my third N&B ( And this one is the oldest of the lot). Most parts are readily available althpough you now have to buy them through TW in UK so they re are more expensive than buying them from the factory, but their parts guy (Andrew) is really good.

In a normal year the factory at Polch have an open weekend where they have a jumble for old parts and you can buy direct from the factory store.

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Well I'm home and the van didn't blow up so that's a good thing....

Silly question, what is this and why is it making a strange noise when plugged into EHU? It didn't when i pickled it up!!



Its a Victron charger, AFAIK it combines the charge from the alternator EHU and solar and controls what goes to the batteries. OE was CBE so somebodies added it. I would get the batteries checked first, they re number one suspect and then have a look at that. Martin funflair is more knowledgeable than me on them.
 
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Its a Victron charger, AFAIK it combines the charge from the alternator EHU and solar and controls what goes to the batteries. OE was CBE so somebodies added it. I would get the batteries checked first, they re number one suspect and then have a look at that. Martin funflair is more knowledgeable than me on them.
New batteries on order! Then I’ll look at charger, then then the fuse box control unit thing.
i found the reciept for the victron and it was put in in 2013 so isn’t that old
 
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New batteries on order! Then I’ll look at charger, then then the fuse box control unit thing.
i found the reciept for the victron and it was put in in 2013 so isn’t that old

Did you definitely check the engine was a 3 litre? Last time I saw one of those was in the back of the flair we were discussing earlier and the time period matches up. Hopefully a different one.

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Did you definitely check the engine was a 3 litre? Last time I saw one of those was in the back of the flair we were discussing earlier and the time period matches up. Hopefully a different one.
I didn’t actually.... however I’m sure it’s the 3.0. More so because of the six speed box and the fact that it’s so much better than the Ducato 2.8 lump I had in my last MH.

im going to go and check now! how will I know the difference?
 
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I didn’t actually.... however I’m sure it’s the 3.0. More so because of the six speed box and the fact that it’s so much better than the Ducato 2.8 lump I had in my last MH.

im going to go and check now! how will I know the difference?
if it has a cambelt its a 2.8 if it doesnt its a 3 litre.
 
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if it has a cambelt its a 2.8 if it doesnt its a 3 litre.
I didn’t think the 3.0lt was introduced until 2007 though? 🤔

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Right where is the badge on the engine that says 3.0?!!!!! i need to put this to bed!!!!!!

on a brighter note the heating wasn't leaking and I found the dump valve!!! working perfectly on electric, just need to sort gas before i can test in on that.

now to sort out the water pump.......!

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whilst im on this one..... anyone know where i can find a light for the shower? the one in mine is burned out...

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Jun 10, 2010
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Right where is the badge on the engine that says 3.0?!!!!! i need to put this to bed!!!!!!

on a brighter note the heating wasn't leaking and I found the dump valve!!! working perfectly on electric, just need to sort gas before i can test in on that.

now to sort out the water pump.......!

See the plastic guards on the front of the engine, this is a cambelt cover - a 3 litre is all alluminium


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Being a rear wheel drive it will be an Iveco Daily base vehicle not Ducato, which I think had the 3 litre motor from 2004
 

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Being a rear wheel drive it will be an Iveco Daily base vehicle not Ducato, which I think had the 3 litre motor from 2004
In 2005 you could get 3litre as an upgrade 2.8 as standard.

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The information I have suggests that the F-1C 3 litre engine was introduced in 2004 and that at this time, the old 8140 engine (2.8) was completely replaced.
 
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Thats a relief, the one we were talking about was troublesome.
This one may yet cause me a few wallet issues!! So far however things have started working that were previously down as inoperable. I did find that the Neutral cable form the EHU 240 into the battery charger was not tight and fell out. Since I've tightened it, more lights, the extractor fan and the heating on electric have started working!

Once I've got a working gas setup, Ill test the rest.

I do have a sneaky feeling however that the poo will hit the fan at some point!! Prime suspect at the minute is the battery charger!! we will see how she is with new batteries
 
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The information I have suggests that the F-1C 3 litre engine was introduced in 2004 and that at this time, the old 8140 engine (2.8) was completely replaced.
Earlier ones were 2.8 There was a crossover in 2006. 3 litre is a much better engine.

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dumb question. where is the thermostat on the 3.0 Iveco? I cant for the life of me find anything online as to its whereabouts.... van has a slight issue where it doesn't like starting when warm (even though it does start) and the temp gauge is sitting mostly at 3/4. also I cant seem to feel any water when I squeeze the pipes. my thinking is that it wont do any harm to swap out the thermostat if I can find it!! Crankshaft sensor will be next!!

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dumb question. where is the thermostat on the 3.0 Iveco? I cant for the life of me find anything online as to its whereabouts.... van has a slight issue where it doesn't like starting when warm (even though it does start) and the temp gauge is sitting mostly at 3/4. also I cant seem to feel any water when I squeeze the pipes. my thinking is that it wont do any harm to swap out the thermostat if I can find it!! Crankshaft sensor will be next!!

I dont know specifically but isn't it where the top hose meets the block?
 

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Looking at that brings back the true quality of them, much better than the later ones IMHO
It also reminded me that you could have them on the 6 tonne sprinter chassis, 3 choices for the same motorhome is pretty impressive.
Those are the days Jon ;)

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last one for today as I'm knackered!!!

Thule orminster awnings..... does the safari room fit all orminster awnings of the correct size? I need an awning but have the sides etc. If i need to get a new set of sides as well, then ill get a fiamma zip!
 

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