A possible answer to the Diesel problem?

[Robin McHood]

CO2 could be captured directly from truck exhausts

Researchers based at Switzerland’s École Polytechnique Fédéralede Lausanne (EPFL) have proposed a method for reducing the carbon emissions of trucks by 90 per cent with a small system which can be retrofitted to existing...

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[pappajohn]

7% of payload is 7% less payload.... I can't see many transport managers approving of 7% lost revenue.

 

[PhilandMena]

I wonder how many countries are offering help in any form to Australia as a result of the climate change impacts. I'm of the view as time goes by nothing will be agreed globally and we will see each country affected by climate change left to deal with the impacts on there own. Not good is it !

 

[Robin McHood]

But against no payload at all if the bans on diesels become more and more implemented, and potential to retrofit motorhomes.....

 

[pappajohn]

But against no payload at all if the bans on diesels become more and more implemented, and potential to retrofit motorhomes.....

In my opinion, private diesel cars will become extinct but large commercial vehicles, trains, ships etc will run on diesel long after we have gone.
If theoretical inventions like this converter were a viable reality the vehicle manufacturers would be all over it and fitted as standard to new vehicles.
They throw millions into research finding new ways to reduce emissions and that could be slashed at a stroke.

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[Cheshirecat57]

Why do all the Eco MENTALISTs rush to talk about Trucks as soon as pollution is brought up?


trucks have been Euro 6 for over 6 years........so most of them then

Euro 6 D truck engines emit less CO2 than they are sucking in from the ambient air

15 year old private-hire cars emit 100 times more shite than a modern truck, and a 15 year old CH boiler is as bad, but they are harder to legislate against

and how can a Euro6 Diesel car that does 12 miles to a litre be worse for the planet than a Petrol/Eco/Hybrid bollox one that does 6 or 7 to a litre of Petrol

 

[Cheshirecat57]

You may have guessed, I dont see Diesel as a “problem” as big as the ‘mantalists “cure” might be

 

[jongood]

I wonder how many countries are offering help in any form to Australia as a result of the climate change impacts. I'm of the view as time goes by nothing will be agreed globally and we will see each country affected by climate change left to deal with the impacts on there own. Not good is it !

I agree, thats got to be several years worth of emissions. Some of the fires have been burning for weeks and they can't get them under control because of lack of equipment.

 

[gus-lopez]

But against no payload at all if the bans on diesels become more and more implemented, and potential to retrofit motorhomes.....

i'd like ti see them take that route & everyone start to starve.

In my opinion, private diesel cars will become extinct but large commercial vehicles, trains, ships etc will run on diesel long after we have gone.

Pot & kettle. Good enough for them then I'm using it as well.

 

[MANGOFORTH]

I've got 10.1 litres of diesel power. I'll beat them with a stick if they take them from me.

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[Tea Bag]

Hi.
Whats going on in Aus ? Is it true they have sold a Water company to a Foreign operator? After the biggest Drought for years...
Tea Bag

 

[Oldbob]

Sounds like they are off their trolley. The technology may be developing, but the loss of space and payload is a no go.

Euro 6 is ok, but has brought so many other problems with it, adblue systems need cleaning, but unless you do the mileage and drive like an idiot they eventually clog up.

Just had a truck in daf dealership for 6 weeks for them to sort adblue problems.
Never used to get that sort of thing with the straight pipe exhausts !

 

[PeteH]

The bottom line, with all this "Global Warming" Bollox, Is the fact that it is a great way to take MORE TAX off those who have already paid far more than a "Fair Whack". Keep it up, we`ll soon be back in Mud Huts. But the "Fat Cats" will be sat on their Caribbean Islands, polluting to their hearts content!.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Sounds like they are off their trolley. The technology may be developing, but the loss of space and payload is a no go.

Euro 6 is ok, but has brought so many other problems with it, adblue systems need cleaning, but unless you do the mileage and drive like an idiot they eventually clog up.

Just had a truck in daf dealership for 6 weeks for them to sort adblue problems.
Never used to get that sort of thing with the straight pipe exhausts !

You are correct, but your DAF and our VOLVOS are very clean, yet still attract the wrath of the ‘mentalists before anything else
they still want their ‘organic’ loaf to be in Waitrose exactly when they want it, I suppose the loaf-fairy brought it in a sleigh running on compressed unicorn farts

 

[7735]

I wonder how many countries are offering help in any form to Australia as a result of the climate change impacts. I'm of the view as time goes by nothing will be agreed globally and we will see each country affected by climate change left to deal with the impacts on there own. Not good is it !

Perhaps Australia should look at the millions of tons of coal that they export every year.
spongy

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[PeteH]

Perhaps Australia should look at the millions of tons of coal that they export every year.
spongy

About time we got the millions of tons of Coal out from under our own island. Rather than giving control of our heat and light to Putin, as happens now. The Australians have a product that China wants, if OZ dont provide it some other country will. The likes of "Grumpy Greta" Et-Al, will be first to scream if the lights went out! and they couldn't charge their "Smart Phones".

The world has been warming since the late 1800`s, after a 400 year Mini ice age.

 

[pappajohn]

About time we got the millions of tons of Coal out from under our own island

Not worth the effort allegedly.
It wasn't Mrs Thatcher or Arthur Scargill who closed the mines, it was purely a matter of economics.
The existing coal seams where too small to make it financially viable... What chance that's changed today?

 

[PeteH]

Not worth the effort allegedly.
It wasn't Mrs Thatcher or Arthur Scargill who closed the mines, it was purely a matter of economics.
The existing coal seams where too small to make it financially viable... What chance that's changed today?

That was the propaganda. Used at the time?. Allegedly there where still seams that could be got at. But of course now it will all cost More than then to access. But what price do you put on Security?.

 

[2657]

CO2 emissions are not now nor ever have been the main problem for diesel engines.

The reason the governments of many countries pushed diesel engines was because they produce less CO2 and greenhouse gases than petrol engines.

The problem with diesel engines is Nitrous Oxide and particulates.

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

Perhaps Australia should look at the millions of tons of coal that they export every year.
spongy

Imagine how much worse it would have burned if they hadn't got rid of it!!

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[buttons]

In my opinion, private diesel cars will become extinct but large commercial vehicles, trains, ships etc will run on diesel long after we have gone.
If theoretical inventions like this converter were a viable reality the vehicle manufacturers would be all over it and fitted as standard to new vehicles.
They throw millions into research finding new ways to reduce emissions and that could be slashed at a stroke.

Single decker busses are already in service around the country using this fuel. The first double decker bus is due out in London very shortly. Their exhaust's of course just emit clean h2o. Could this be the future of large commercial vehicles too.

 

[Wild Brambles]

Two stroke opposed piston diesel engines are the efficient answer for the next few years. Much better than environmentally damaging electric vehicles that rely on bird blenders for their power. That would give us time to get some Thorium reactors up and running for nuclear power. Probably won't happen though, as Thorium doesn't produce weapons grade fuel as a byproduct.

 

[RubyOptics]

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The world has been warming since the late 1800`s, after a 400 year Mini ice age.

You mean right around the time of the industrial Revolution... When we started burning coal on a massive scale?? What a strange coincidence...

 

[StephDeLux]

CO2 could be captured directly from truck exhausts

Researchers based at Switzerland’s École Polytechnique Fédéralede Lausanne (EPFL) have proposed a method for reducing the carbon emissions of trucks by 90 per cent with a small system which can be retrofitted to existing...

eandt.theiet.org

The diesel scandal was about NOx emissions, not CO2 emissions. Diesel engines, having a better thermodynamic efficiency than petrol, emit less CO2 than petrol for the same work. Since the scandal, all diesel engines are supplied with an active solution to radically lower NOx emissions, the AdBlue.

The current situation is that petrol engines emit more particles, more CO2 and more NOx than equivalent diesel engines.

But the politicians hopped on the "diesel is bad" band wagon and feel they cannot stop now, despite diesel bashing being based on obsolete technology. They even went as far as issuing different norms for petrol and diesel, officially allowing more emissions for petrol engines.

 

[Theonlysue]

If they ground all the aeroplanes, that would help ?

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[autorouter]

Euro 6 D truck engines emit less CO2 than they are sucking in from the ambient air

This is just not true. You are making the common mistake of confusing carbon monoxide (CO) with carbon dioxide (CO2).

It is true that the exhaust gas of some Euro 6 trucks and buses have less CO, nitrogen oxides, hydrocarbons and particulates than the surrounding polluted city centre air. However CO2 production in large quantities is an inherent part of diesel or petrol fuelled engines.

The aim with Euro 6 is to get CO2 production in trucks down to 350 grams per kilometre. It's a bit more complicated because the target depends on the truck payload, but that figure is a good average. For cars, the standard is 98 grams per kilometre.

 

[StephDeLux]

Their exhaust's of course just emit clean h2o.

Water vapor (H20) is a greenhouse gas 100 times stronger than CO2. It was never about saving anything.

 

[StephDeLux]

You mean right around the time of the industrial Revolution... When we started burning coal on a massive scale?? What a strange coincidence...

You didn't read until the end, did you? *After a mini ice-age.*

 

[Larrynwin]

How many petrol or diesel vehicles and meat eating humans around then ??

About 3 million years ago, the Earth was just a couple of degrees warmer than it is today — and global sea levels were 53 feet higher

About 3 million years ago, Earth was just a few degrees warmer than it is now. Mediterranean cave deposits reveal that sea levels were 53 feet higher.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

How long will it take to develop the kit to go in the vehicles and the infrastructure to receive and handle the Co2 containers being deposited at refuelling the diesel ........

I would imagine longer than a long term replacement for diesel!

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