6000 zloti fine for no toll box in Poland (1 Viewer)

[billym]

Met an unhappy French couple yesterday. They had just been fined £1250 for using the A4 motorway in Poland for about 100 km without a Via Toll box ( over 3.5 ton)
This was a culmination of four fines for one single trip ( passing four reference points or whatever they are called )

Wouldn't you think the police would have let them off for making an "honest" mistake?

 

[funflair]

No, why didn't they have a toll? box being French I would think that they are quite familiar with the principle of pay per km motorways.

OK £1250 sound steep.

Martin

 

[jongood]

Its not as simple as the French system martin @funflair more similar to the Czech setup which (don't know how you got on) but we found quite difficult to purchase and return

IMO it is absolutely ridiculous that all these Eastern European countries have their own version of go boxes. I've seen trucks with more than 6 devices stuck to the windscreen, that has to affect their vision. Surely they could standardise it to one device.

To add to this it is very difficult to find up to date information stating which roads in Poland are subject to their 'go box'. Last time I looked it stated that motorways and some express roads! how on earth are foreigners to know which roads are considered express roads.

When you think about it, their richest neighbour from where they could attract a substantial amount of tourist revenue tend to have motorhomes that are in excess of 3500kgs and thus affected by this short sighted ruling. Dumb or what!

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[funflair]

Hi Jon

Indeed it is not as simple as the French system you are right, the Czech system we found OK and easy to take out and hand back the box but maybe that was because we had been forwarded by intrepid travellers like yourself, I am assuming that there is something that tells you that you are on a toll road but possibly I am deluded.

I do agree though a standard system would be sensible, but you don't expect sense do you.

Martin

 

[Sundowners]

It was about five years ago we heard of a couple who got caught out the same in Poland. Unfortunately as their card withdrawals were restricted per day, they had to spend, I think three days, in a compound until they were able to draw enough money out to pay the fine. They said they had not seen any toll signs. Put us off going there on that trip, we'd had such a brilliant trip that we didn't want anything to mar it.

 

[funflair]

It was about five years ago we heard of a couple who got caught out the same in Poland. Unfortunately as their card withdrawals were restricted per day, they had to spend, I think three days, in a compound until they were able to draw enough money out to pay the fine. They said they had not seen any toll signs. Put us off going there on that trip, we'd had such a brilliant trip that we didn't want anything to mar it.

I read about that one actually, all pretty harsh and yes it does put people off travelling to these places, or certainly without doing a lot of planning and homework first.

Martin

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[funflair]

I think the problem is that a lot of people that are only a little bit over 3500kg think they can get away with it with "camping car SVP" and it doesn't work with most other places.

Martin

 

[Larrynwin]

Its not as simple as the French system martin @funflair more similar to the Czech setup which (don't know how you got on) but we found quite difficult to purchase and return

IMO it is absolutely ridiculous that all these Eastern European countries have their own version of go boxes. I've seen trucks with more than 6 devices stuck to the windscreen, that has to affect their vision. Surely they could standardise it to one device.

To add to this it is very difficult to find up to date information stating which roads in Poland are subject to their 'go box'. Last time I looked it stated that motorways and some express roads! how on earth are foreigners to know which roads are considered express roads.

When you think about it, their richest neighbour from where they could attract a substantial amount of tourist revenue tend to have motorhomes that are in excess of 3500kgs and thus affected by this short sighted ruling. Dumb or what!

This is the EU , utopia to many , but it’ll never work , best out

 

[Gaston aires]

It’s a bit of a faff all these different toll charges. You can get caught out if you’re not careful. I thought Europe was supposed to standardise things.
Noooo
Phil

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[funflair]

Polish toll roads,

http://213.25.68.37/TollOverviewMap/default.aspx?lang=en&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

And yes the fine for not paying a section is 500 zl, or 1500 if you are over 3500kg as they lump you in with trucks by the look of it.

Martin

 

[jongood]

Polish toll roads,

http://213.25.68.37/TollOverviewMap/default.aspx?lang=en&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

And yes the fine for not paying a section is 500 zl, or 1500 if you are over 3500kg as they lump you in with trucks by the look of it.

Martin

Yes thats similar to the plan I saw, but relating it to the actual roads and working out the alternatives is not easy. I have many other countries that are easier to see so it puts me off visiting Poland.

 

[funflair]

Yes thats similar to the plan I saw, but relating it to the actual roads and working out the alternatives is not easy. I have many other countries that are easier to see so it puts me off visiting Poland.

Can't argue with that, set up for cars and trucks I guess and we fall into a trap in the middle.

Martin

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[billym]

Yes the toll roads seem to be totally random. There is little or no warning that you are nearing one. Even some inconspicuous roads are tolled

My comment about being let off for an "honest " mistake was tongue in cheek.

 

[Allanm]

It’s a bit of a faff all these different toll charges. You can get caught out if you’re not careful. I thought Europe was supposed to standardise things.
Noooo
Phil

I think it just proves that different countries in the EU can actually make their own laws ..............

 

[normanandsue]

Was I lucky then. We drove home through Poland used motorways coming out of Warsaw, completely ignorant of any need for a box. We have a pvc as pictured but less than 3.5t .

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[Gaston aires]

I think it just proves that different countries in the EU can actually make their own laws ..............

If that’s the case why on Earth did we vote to leave ?

 

[Ridgeway]

If that’s the case why on Earth did we vote to leave ?

Because as the rest of Europe says: "Rules in the EU are there to be ignored by the South of Europe, avoided by the rest of Europe and followed by the UK"

You guys are just to polite

 

[DBK]

This is the EU , utopia to many , but it’ll never work , best out

Indeed, none of them ever accepted our three pin 13A plug. And the tag I can buy to get over the toll bridge on the A38 at Plymouth doesn't even work anywhere else in the UK! The sooner Devon leaves the UK the better and if they ask nicely we might let Cornwall join us.

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[Ivory55]

It does seem daft you can have all those toll boxes on the dashboard and windscreen blocking your view but can be prosecuted for having other stuff there blocking your view when driving. It’s a funny old world.

 

[billym]

We travelled across Northern Poland then later down the east side and back across the south side using Toll roads as and when. ( They appear when you least expect them ) . We have just given the box back at the Czech border and got back the deposit and what was left on it.

Total cost £33