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We have a Globecar due for delivery soon(ish). Gas cylinder capacity is advertised a 1x11 and 1x5 kg.

I understand that 5 kg cylinders are no longer available (?). If so, does anyone know if a 6 kg cylinder will fit?
 

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Wait until you get it and the you can see exactly what size locker space you have to play with and whether you can actually get more in than the stated cylinder sizes ... I got an 11kg refillable into a space that was only supposed to take 2 x 6kgs.

Nearly forgot, what Globecar are you getting?
 
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Wait until you get it and the you can see exactly what size locker space you have to play with and whether you can actually get more in than the stated cylinder sizes ... I got an 11kg refillable into a space that was only supposed to take 2 x 6kgs.

Nearly forgot, what Globecar are you getting?

Yes, hopefully they've been a little pessimistic. It's a Summit 540 Shine
 

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I've managed to find this photos which I think shows the gas locker on the right and it actually looks quite big so you might be able to get a 14kg Alugas cylinder in there rather than an 11kg Gaslow/Gasit.

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One thing I suggest you install though is an access hatch so you can get your hand in to turn the cylinder on/off without having to open the door which is a pain in the bum as you have to partially empty the storage space to get it open.

Info here: https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/gas-locker-access.226034/post-4058169

Afterwards I fitted it I put a handle on it which made it much easier to remove:

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Also this thread which popped up whilst I was searching for the others might be useful to you.

 
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I've managed to find this photos which I think shows the gas locker on the right and it actually looks quite big so you might be able to get a 14kg Alugas cylinder in there rather than an 11kg Gaslow/Gasit.

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One thing I suggest you install though is an access hatch so you can get your hand in to turn the cylinder on/off without having to open the door which is a pain in the bum as you have to partially empty the storage space to get it open.

Info here: https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/gas-locker-access.226034/post-4058169

Afterwards I fitted it I put a handle on it which made it much easier to remove:

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Also this thread which popped up whilst I was searching for the others might be useful to you.


Really good info. Thank you vey much!

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We have a Globecar due for delivery soon(ish). Gas cylinder capacity is advertised a 1x11 and 1x5 kg.

I understand that 5 kg cylinders are no longer available (?). If so, does anyone know if a 6 kg cylinder will fit?

If it hasn't been delivered yet, I would want it to have 2 cylinders that was not being discontinued.
Why should you have to pay for the cost of the gas, and another cylinder, when it come time to refill?

From what I have read, no money is being refunded on the 5kg ones? :unsure:
 
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They just provide the space - not the cylinders. Like buying a house where they say "space for washing machine"!

Anyway I intend to fit gaslow cylinders - if there's not space for an underslung LPG tank (which I doubt because of it's 5.4m length).
 
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They just provide the space - not the cylinders. Like buying a house where they say "space for washing machine"!

Anyway I intend to fit gaslow cylinders - if there's not space for an underslung LPG tank (which I doubt because of it's 5.4m length).

Sorry, I misunderstood.

To be honest, I doubt if you will need more than a single 11kg Gaslow cylinder (unless your using it for heating) because that is all I have and, so far, have never run out although I do top-up before each rally etc. and never had any problem sourcing it.

I know that I usually travel alone, but the last time I went off-grid to Sweden for 7weeks (+ drive up via France, Belgium , Holland and Denmark and back via Poland & Germany), most of that time, I ran my fridge (unless travelling on 12v) and did all of my cooking and kettles of hot water, and still had small amount left when I returned.
It would be nice to have a better spare, (I have a small campers cylinder) and I've thought about it, but I cannot justify the extra weight, expense and taking up of storage.
Strangely enough, only yesterday, I asked for a ball-park quote for a underslung tank, and was told about £500-600?
 

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enough to know i shouldnt touch things i know nothing about ....
Anyway I intend to fit gaslow cylinders - if there's not space for an underslung LPG tank (which I doubt because of it's 5.4m length).
Or reduce your dependency on lpg by having a good sized lithium battery, solar and inverter? I am really pleased with my lithium and inverter set up (need a 3000w inverter though) but do need to sort out/improve my solar options and potentially add a B2B - I have 100w on the motorhome and another 100w panel at home waiting to go on. In addition I have a 150w folding solar panel which I need to be able to be able to easily connect/disconnect to my setup.

I'm sure Basildog will be able to offer advice re underslung options
 

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We have a Globecar due for delivery soon(ish). Gas cylinder capacity is advertised a 1x11 and 1x5 kg.

I understand that 5 kg cylinders are no longer available (?). If so, does anyone know if a 6 kg cylinder will fit?
Phew thought it was a maths question going by the tittle

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To be honest, I doubt if you will need more than a single 11kg Gaslow cylinder (unless your using it for heating) because that is all I have and, so far, have never run out although I do top-up before each rally etc. and never had any problem sourcing it.

I think you might be right. The van will have a compressor fridge, which is what we have in our current van (VW). That has 2 x 907 cylinders - each one under 3Kg of gas, and one lasted us three years! Although that does have diesel heating, which the new van will not. The problem with only one cylinder is having an accurate guage - and they don't seem that reliable. Where did you get the quote from - it seems quite reasonable.

We've had both underslung and Gaslow in the past, and the former would be in the region of £200 more, although it would free up the gas locker. But we definitely need lpg for Europe.
 
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Or reduce your dependency on lpg by having a good sized lithium battery, solar and inverter? I am really pleased with my lithium and inverter set up (need a 3000w inverter though) but do need to sort out/improve my solar options and potentially add a B2B - I have 100w on the motorhome and another 100w panel at home waiting to go on. In addition I have a 150w folding solar panel which I need to be able to be able to easily connect/disconnect to my setup.

I'm sure Basildog will be able to offer advice re underslung options

I would definitely like lithium, but SWMBO is getting anxious about mounting costs.
 
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I think you might be right. The van will have a compressor fridge, which is what we have in our current van (VW). That has 2 x 907 cylinders - each one under 3Kg of gas, and one lasted us three years! Although that does have diesel heating, which the new van will not. The problem with only one cylinder is having an accurate guage - and they don't seem that reliable. Where did you get the quote from - it seems quite reasonable.

We've had both underslung and Gaslow in the past, and the former would be in the region of £200 more, although it would free up the gas locker. But we definitely need lpg for Europe.

The rate I got quoted was down here in East Anglia and 'mates' rates, so probably not a very accurate guide for retail?

Talking of being accurate, from what I have read on here lately, the gauges on the latest Gaslow cylinders are much better than the previous ones, plus there are ones for one's 'smart' phones these days?

Good luck with whatever you decide. L' Hobo.
 

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