4.5t chasis (1 Viewer)

Affiliate links here may earn MHF compensation

tomlowry07

Free Member
Apr 9, 2016
67
33
spain
Funster No
42,393
MH
lowry
Exp
5
Hi All, Can i expect to pay more on insurance and tax if i go down the 4.5t route?
Ta Tom
 
Jun 17, 2012
2,952
10,046
North Essex
Funster No
21,517
MH
Autotrail Delaware
Exp
>12 but <13
You will get cheaper road tax !! as lower band of HGV and insurance my not alter.
Most important thing is having C1 on your driving licence
 

Kingham

LIFE MEMBER
Nov 20, 2016
2,683
6,742
Kirkcudbright, D&G
Funster No
46,157
MH
AS Kingham 2017
Exp
Since 2009
When I up-plated to 4500kg, I told my insurer (Comfort) and it made no difference to the cost.
 
OP
OP
tomlowry07

tomlowry07

Free Member
Apr 9, 2016
67
33
spain
Funster No
42,393
MH
lowry
Exp
5
Another question, ....considering new motorhome. merc 418 chasis 4.5 . Is suspension and undercarriage stronger than 314 , 3.5 tonne. or is it just paperwork. Can this be done retrospectively? as its quite a bit more cash for the 418.
 

138go

Free Member
Feb 26, 2016
3,276
14,614
Funster No
41,781
MH
Carthago 138
Exp
Since 2001
Just means you won't be overloaded like a majority of the 3.5t Motorhomes are :) :whistle:
 
OP
OP
tomlowry07

tomlowry07

Free Member
Apr 9, 2016
67
33
spain
Funster No
42,393
MH
lowry
Exp
5
so is it just paperwork, nothing extra on a 4,5t suspension etc?

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

tonka

LIFE MEMBER
Jul 2, 2008
10,903
21,724
Cannock, Staffs
Funster No
3,141
MH
A class Burstner 800
Exp
Since 2000
Never seems to make a difference on insurance..
Postcode and value of the van are the factors that affect the price...
Never, ever seen or had an insurance company even ask the weight.
Also it makes no difference when using ferry's or the tunnel. However toll roads it will.
 

funflair

LIFE MEMBER
Dec 11, 2013
19,655
31,635
Guisborough
Funster No
29,351
MH
MORELO palace
Exp
since 2012
Isn't a 418 on twin rear wheel axle? I would expect a difference to carry an extra 1000kg.

Martin
 

Lenny HB

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 18, 2007
54,394
154,416
On the coast in West Sussex
Funster No
658
MH
Hymer B678 DL
Exp
Since 2008 & many years tugging
Insurers never ask the weight.
With a Fiat 3.5t, 3850 is the max after that it's the Maxi chassis.
Some of the older Mercs you could got up to 4t but the new FWD is a bit of an unknown beast. The 3.5 can go up to 3880, they also do a 4430, I suspect that will have upgraded springs and shockers.
 
Aug 6, 2013
11,969
16,590
Kendal, Cumbria
Funster No
27,352
MH
Le-Voyageur RX958 Pl
Exp
since 1999
Insurers never ask the weight.
With a Fiat 3.5t, 3850 is the max after that it's the Maxi chassis.
Some of the older Mercs you could got up to 4t but the new FWD is a bit of an unknown beast. The 3.5 can go up to 3880, they also do a 4430, I suspect that will have upgraded springs and shockers.
My 2012 Merc is 5.3T twin wheels. It's like a small truck underneath :).

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Jul 27, 2010
704
1,452
Farnham Surrey
Funster No
12,869
MH
Bilbos Nexa
Exp
on and off since 1980
Malibu charge £450 ish to upgrade chassis from 3500kgs to 4000kgs on a Fiat pvc. What do you get, stronger springs I would expect but are the brakes and clutch different?
 

pappajohn

LIFE MEMBER
Aug 26, 2007
43,502
50,924
Dark side of the moon
Funster No
172
Exp
Since 2005
Regarding C1... You say you're old, but how old.
Don't forget, at 70 you're at the whim and mercy of DVLA as to whether you keep C1 or not.

Edit.... Just had a look and you have a few years yet (y)
 
Aug 18, 2014
24,024
136,618
Lorca,Murcia,Spain
Funster No
32,898
MH
Transit PVC
Exp
16 years since restarting
Another question, ....considering new motorhome. merc 418 chasis 4.5 . Is suspension and undercarriage stronger than 314 , 3.5 tonne. or is it just paperwork. Can this be done retrospectively? as its quite a bit more cash for the 418.
Is there a difference ,yes,The first number "3" denotes weight category so 314 can be up to around 3850
"4" as in 416, denotes 4 tonne range &can be up to 4850 ,I believe .might be a tad more.
"5" the 5 Tonne range. Explained to me by a German merc lad.
 
  • Like
Reactions: f6c

Lenny HB

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 18, 2007
54,394
154,416
On the coast in West Sussex
Funster No
658
MH
Hymer B678 DL
Exp
Since 2008 & many years tugging
Regarding C1... You say you're old, but how old.
Don't forget, at 70 you're at the whim and mercy of DVLA as to whether you keep C1 or not.

Edit.... Just had a look and you have a few years yet (y)
He is a youngster compared to us lot.:)

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
OP
OP
tomlowry07

tomlowry07

Free Member
Apr 9, 2016
67
33
spain
Funster No
42,393
MH
lowry
Exp
5
so i presume a 4.5t can be downplated to 3.5t should prospective buyer not have C1 ?

Costly?
 
Oct 2, 2008
4,567
8,294
Salopia
Funster No
4,247
MH
Duro 6x6 Overlander
Exp
since 1968
Down plate is a paper exercise most cases, as its the penalty of overloading that you face not a physical limit . Mines 8.6 tonne down at 7490 for various reasons. (still 2.5 tonne payload :) )
 

Lenny HB

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 18, 2007
54,394
154,416
On the coast in West Sussex
Funster No
658
MH
Hymer B678 DL
Exp
Since 2008 & many years tugging
so i presume a 4.5t can be downplated to 3.5t should prospective buyer not have C1 ?

Costly?
Yes but you would have very little payload so probably wouldn't be drivable legally.
Cost,the price of weighbridge ticket and new plate. Don't need to get an engineer involved for downplating.

P.S. Dougie is looking a bit sorry for himself in your avatar.:)

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

Join us or log in to post a reply.

To join in you must be a member of MotorhomeFun

Join MotorhomeFun

Join us, it quick and easy!

Log in

Already a member? Log in here.

Latest journal entries

Funsters who are viewing this thread

Back
Top