360 degree cameras (1 Viewer)

[BillandHelen]

One of the extras that we got fitted to our new IH was a 360 degree camera system. Thought it would be a good safety aid and it offset the cost of a reversing camera and a second tv for the front of the van.

Been using it for 4 trips out now and have found it to be really useful, especially on the motorway. The installation has been really neat, it replaces the Fiat writing tray on top of the dash,

When driving along it gives you a split screen view, one half shows a Birdseye view of the van on the road, handy on narrow roads abroad, the other half either view behind, or if you indicate a clear view of that side.

The 4 cameras are installed at the back, high on the sides and just under the Fiat sign on the grill, neat and colour coded.

Have started to see a few other vans with them installed, anyone else got them?

Regards
Bill

 

[Gorse Hill]

One of the extras that we got fitted to our new IH was a 360 degree camera system. Thought it would be a good safety aid and it offset the cost of a reversing camera and a second tv for the front of the van.

Been using it for 4 trips out now and have found it to be really useful, especially on the motorway. The installation has been really neat, it replaces the Fiat writing tray on top of the dash,

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When driving along it gives you a split screen view, one half shows a Birdseye view of the van on the road, handy on narrow roads abroad, the other half either view behind, or if you indicate a clear view of that side.

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The 4 cameras are installed at the back, high on the sides and just under the Fiat sign on the grill, neat and colour coded.

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Have started to see a few other vans with them installed, anyone else got them?

Regards
Bill

Looks very useful, if you don't mind how much did it cost pls

 

[BillandHelen]

We paid a bit more than you need to!! We wanted an HD quality screen installed in a special housing connected to our twin skew Cytrac sat system. Normally comes with replacement rear view mirror I think. Also we had everything colour coded etc. Our cost was £1400, which we were ok with.
Bill

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[Minxy]

We paid a bit more than you need to!! We wanted an HD quality screen installed in a special housing connected to our twin skew Cytrac sat system. Normally comes with replacement rear view mirror I think. Also we had everything colour coded etc. Our cost was £1400, which we were ok with.
Bill

 

[BillandHelen]

Come on Mel, it's only money!

 

[RogerThat]

That is a REALLY cool mod!!!

Does it help with blind spots when changing lanes on motorways?

Can you view the cameras with the engine off? I'm thinking great security feature if you heard a noise outside at night, it's like a full on CCTV system!

I'm sure I mentioned it on another thread of yours, but sign me up for first refusal on your MH when the time comes to sell it

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[BillandHelen]

Roger, yes, when you signal to move lane it shows you the view right down the side of your van, so no blind spots. Also helpful when moving past cyclists etc and makes parking an absolute doddle. Apparently you can close all the blinds and manoeuvre by screen alone, not that I've tried it of course!!
Can work offline as security, and if you want can record to a hard drive etc.
Will put you down for first refusal!
Bill

 

[DavidG58]

that's me hooked in, we need a new camera, saw something similar posted recently, will be looking for something very similar, does it have a brand name or is it a IH special?

 

[Tea Bag]

Hi.
Just wishing to clarify a point,i thought it was a No-No. to look at certain screens while driving. OK.i know you have to look at the mirrors,speedo,Sat nav etc,but once when having a reversing cam fitted to a lorry,it had to be switched off when travelling forward ,as it was supposed to distract attention. I have no axe to grind on the fitting of whatever.
Tea Bag

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[Just smiffy]

They do them on flee bay for 100-200£ ....

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

that's me hooked in, we need a new camera, saw something similar posted recently, will be looking for something very similar, does it have a brand name or is it a IH special?

Seen these at a show.

http://www.omni-vue.co.uk/motorhome

 

[BillandHelen]

Hi teabag, honestly don't know! All my previous rear view cameras had the ability to stay on all the time though , not only when reverse is engaged.

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[BillandHelen]

Hi coastal, yes the components are based on omivue pro and adapted by IH.

 

[tonyidle]

Hi teabag, honestly don't know! All my previous rear view cameras had the ability to stay on all the time though , not only when reverse is engaged.

If mine didn't stay on I couldn't see behind the van .

 

[Gellyneck]

Hi.
Just wishing to clarify a point,i thought it was a No-No. to look at certain screens while driving. OK.i know you have to look at the mirrors,speedo,Sat nav etc,but once when having a reversing cam fitted to a lorry,it had to be switched off when travelling forward ,as it was supposed to distract attention. I have no axe to grind on the fitting of whatever.
Tea Bag

Adding to what Teabag said, and again definitely no axe to grind, is it legal to have equipment fitted that restricts your view out of the windscreen?

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[Robert Clark]

They do them on flee bay for 100-200£ ....

Are you able to provide a link please

 

[Just smiffy]

Are you able to provide a link please

For some reason it doesn't come up with the web page on my eBay app account but if you search ... 360 car camera system it comes up with loads, sort the rubbish out and there are a few good ones...

Are you bored with the view of Switzerland tonight Robert.....

 

[Robert Clark]

For some reason it doesn't come up with the web page on my eBay app account but if you search ... 360 car camera system it comes up with loads, sort the rubbish out and there are a few good ones...

Are you bored with the view of Switzerland tonight Robert.....

No
It's just that I couldn't find a decent 360 camera system when I searched on EBay
Appears the OP found a proper system at a reasonable price
I guess you get what you pay for

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

No
It's just that I couldn't find a decent 360 camera system when I searched on EBay
Appears the OP found a proper system at a reasonable price
I guess you get what you pay for

 

[Robert Clark]

Sadly screen not included
Seems like the seller is a bit dodgy too

 

[BillandHelen]

Guess everyone's idea of value and quality are different! . An omnlvue installation with hard drive etc and full installation can cost up to £1800, see tinternet for details!

I'm quite happy with both my installation, quality of kit and the integration with other facilities in my van, as I've said before if I had Ralph's skill I could do it myself much cheaper! £200, I don't think so ......

Bill

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[BillandHelen]

Hi gellyneck, the screen directly replaces the Fiat based tray which is raised all the time, but honestly don't know if it's ok or not?! Would say that it's low down centrally and I find my eyeline is no different to looking at satnav, see our installation.
Bill

 

[DavidG58]

No
It's just that I couldn't find a decent 360 camera system when I searched on EBay
Appears the OP found a proper system at a reasonable price
I guess you get what you pay for

I am phoning tomorrow, the ding in the back of my MH could have cost more to mend than this camera will cost

works out around 4% of current value, much less than any of the new awning, air assist and self levelling, not to mention turbo

drove a demo Mercedes car with the 360 camera fitted, amazing package, hope it works as well on a MH

I will let you know

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

Sadly screen not included
Seems like the seller is a bit dodgy too

Why u no say u wanted screen as well..

I am phoning tomorrow, the ding in the back of my MH could have cost more to mend than this camera will cost

works out around 4% of current value, much less than any of the new awning, air assist and self levelling, not to mention turbo

drove a demo Mercedes car with the 360 camera fitted, amazing package, hope it works as well on a MH

I will let you know

I could have had it as an option for £1k when I bought my new car but think just the rear cam is ok for cars.
When you look at the video on the omni cue site they do look good.
Will definitely look at it when I purchase my Motorhome.
I like that you can use it as a cctv system and set it up to a hard drive to record.

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[sid1234]

One of the extras that we got fitted to our new IH was a 360 degree camera system. Thought it would be a good safety aid and it offset the cost of a reversing camera and a second tv for the front of the van.

Been using it for 4 trips out now and have found it to be really useful, especially on the motorway. The installation has been really neat, it replaces the Fiat writing tray on top of the dash,

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When driving along it gives you a split screen view, one half shows a Birdseye view of the van on the road, handy on narrow roads abroad, the other half either view behind, or if you indicate a clear view of that side.

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The 4 cameras are installed at the back, high on the sides and just under the Fiat sign on the grill, neat and colour coded.

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Have started to see a few other vans with them installed, anyone else got them?

Regards
Bill

Ball's something else to spend my money on

 

[Kingham]

Hi.
Just wishing to clarify a point,i thought it was a No-No. to look at certain screens while driving..........
Tea Bag

This point has been raised before and you are correct.

Unless the legislation has recently been amended and now working from memory, the driver being able to see 'live' images on a screen constitutes an offence, while the vehicle is moving.
If the OP's system can be set up to record from the forward facing camera, but not display the images on the screen, that is legal. If selecting reverse gear, or activating the indicators, fires up the display with the images from the relevant cameras, that also is legal.
Driving with the screen closed overcomes the problem, but then defeats the object of the lane change and reversing cameras.

Images from cameras mounted around the vehicle for safety purposes, which just show the immediate vicinity, I believe remain exempt under the same legislation, which therefore allows the images from reversing and lane change cameras.

Such a large display screen may not be legal if it blocks part of the forward view out of the windscreen, but from the driving position, it might only be blocking the driver's view of his bonnet ?

 

[Robert Clark]

I am phoning tomorrow, the ding in the back of my MH could have cost more to mend than this camera will cost

works out around 4% of current value, much less than any of the new awning, air assist and self levelling, not to mention turbo

drove a demo Mercedes car with the 360 camera fitted, amazing package, hope it works as well on a MH

I will let you know

Would be interesting to find out how/who retro fits for them

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[Dixi]

I have a Range Rover with 360 degree cameras fitted and it allows me to use the rear view camera whilst moving the image is displayed on a10 inch screen however if I tried to watch a video or tv it only lets the passengers view the screen so I can only assume that it must be legal to view images displayed from the rear whilst moving I can't see land rover blatantly breaking the law


John

 

[BillandHelen]

Hi Kingham and Teabag, as Dixi says when driving you can only view the image from the cameras, usually to the rear but side on when indicating. You can't watch the tv as you drive, or at least I've never tried!

Bill

 

[Kingham]

@Dixi @dicksob Morning gents and apologies if my post has caused confusion, but I did say the rear view and lane change cameras were legal as they are providing information from the immediate vicinity of the vehicle.

My own dash cam has a small screen that switches on by default when I start my engine and I have to physically switch it back off to comply with the law. On lots of occasions I have been many miles in to a journey, before remembering and if I'd been unfortunate to have been spotted and stopped, I would have no argument if I got fined.
If Bill's system doesn't show the forward camera images on the screen while the van is moving, then as I said earlier, that is legal.

Below is a direct lift from the Construction & Use Act and we can consider LCD and other modern variations of CRTs to be catered for in the wording 'or other cinematographic apparatus'.

It is not always the fitting of something on our vehicles that is illegal, but the manner in which the driver uses them, so have a read and interpret it as you wish.

109.—(1) No person shall drive, or cause or permit to be driven, a motor vehicle on a road, if the driver is in such a position as to be able to see, whether directly or by reflection, a television receiving apparatus or other cinematographic apparatus used to display anything other than information—

(a)about the state of the vehicle or its equipment;

(b)about the location of the vehicle and the road on which it is located;

(c)to assist the driver to see the road adjacent to the vehicle; or

(d)to assist the driver to reach his destination.

(2) In this regulation “television receiving apparatus” means any cathode ray tube carried on a vehicle and on which there can be displayed an image derived from a television broadcast, a recording or a camera or computer.

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