2nd Hand bikes with throttles

[Decker]

I have seen two ebikes in a local bike shop with throttles
The dealers tells me they are legal if built in 2016 or earlier.
Is this correct?

Any advantages/disadvantages with this would be appreciated.
Thanks

 

[The Cruisers]

Yes I was told by the chap at AS bikes that’s the case.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

The advantage with the throttle bikes is that you can ride off at a reasonable pace from a standing start without the need to peddle, far better IMHO.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Best to give them a try out, we have had ours for 2 years now, secondhand, and both are still OK. Not used daily but great for getting out and about, to places you would not want to walk to or just nipping to the local shops.
If you try them out just use the throttle which will give you some idea of the life left in the batteries.

 

[Lenny HB]

Legal in the UK but not in most other countries.

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[TinaLes]

We got ours a month before the legislation changed, we are happy with the Twist & Go function, plus the low, med, high peddle assist control.
I thought that the bikes after Twist & Go had a similar function only its done with a lever instead of a twist grip, might be wrong,haven't tried them so cant be certain, but I know what I would prefer
We keep our batteries topped up when not in use, infact I must go out and plug em in as we speak, they are the crucial bit that would be expensive to replace, I believe our 36volt 16Amp/Hour Bosch jobbies are £175 to repair, or £300 to replace, so worth looking after I guess.
Have fun.
Les

 

[Ridgeway]

We have had a twist and go throttle fail and it was a very unsafe failure to say the least, i can't see a non twist and go failing in the same way, just a thought.

 

[Mr Chrysalis]

The advantage with the throttle bikes is that you can ride off at a reasonable pace from a standing start without the need to peddle, far better IMHO.

Yes but that will “eat “ the battery. Better range if you help the battery to start. Lovely to have the choice though!

By the way, twist and go is perfectly legal when using the bike off the road. So on cycle tracks, cross country etc they are fine. Some modern bikes have a discrete switch to convert a twist and go to road legal.

 

[hilldweller]

The advantage with the throttle bikes is that you can ride off at a reasonable pace from a standing start without the need to peddle, far better IMHO.

Absolutely right - I had to replace my old throttle bike with a modern one, it is unsafe compared to taking off on the throttle.

A perfect example of dick-head politicians meddling without thinking it through.

 

[2x2camper]

By the way, twist and go is perfectly legal when using the bike off the road. So on cycle tracks, cross country etc they are fine. Some modern bikes have a discrete switch to convert a twist and go to road legal.

Just remember in Northern Ireland they are totally ilegail as the asembly there has not passed the appropriate legislation

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[Lenny HB]

We keep our batteries topped up when not in use, infact I must go out and plug em in as we speak, they are the crucial bit that would be expensive to replace, I believe our 36volt 16Amp/Hour Bosch jobbies are £175 to repair, or £300 to replace, so worth looking after I guess.
Have fun.
Les

Over £300 to repair and £500 for a new one.

 

[Lenny HB]

Just remember in Northern Ireland they are totally ilegail as the asembly there has not passed the appropriate legislation

Same in most European countries.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Same in most European countries.

I don't think that is quite right, as the twist and go bikes are limited on top speed whereas some of the peddle assist can achieve a much higher speed. In this case, insurance, registration, etc is required, whereas the older twist and go are generally below 250 w motors and max speeds of around 15km/hr.
You need to check the legislation on line to satisfy yourself.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Just remember in Northern Ireland they are totally ilegail as the asembly there has not passed the appropriate legislation

This applies to all types of e bikes, not just twist and go. All have to be registered etc and Insured although the Irish police advise its not one of their priorities where people are riding responsibly. Again you need to check the legislation.

 

[Lenny HB]

I don't think that is quite right, as the twist and go bikes are limited on top speed whereas some of the peddle assist can achieve a much higher speed. In this case, insurance, registration, etc is required, whereas the older twist and go are generally below 250 w motors and max speeds of around 15km/hr.
You need to check the legislation on line to satisfy yourself.

Apart from specialist off road bikes nearly all Pedelec's are 250W with power assist limited to 25kph.
Anyway not to point. Twist and go are illegal in Spain, France, Germany and many other countries.

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[Jimbohorlicks]

Apart from specialist off road bikes nearly all Pedelec's are 250W with power assist limited to 25kph.
Anyway not to point. Twist and go are illegal in Spain, France, Germany and many other countries.

You really should read the legislation, and not make up your own rules.existing twist and go are exempt, the new legislation and bans are for new e bikes.

 

[Decker]

You really should read the legislation, and not make up your own rules.existing twist and go are exempt, the new legislation and bans are for new e bikes.

What age of twist and go are legal abroad?

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

The twist and go bikes are not supposed to be made anymore, so all new bikes from 6th April 2015 have to be peddle assist only.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/product-news/electric-bikes-uk-law-234973

 

[DerryW]

I thought the twist and go e-bikes were fine from a legal standpoint as long as they're limited to a maximum 4mph, in other words, you can start off using the twist throttle but unless you start to pedal they will not go more than 4mph. I hope this is correct. As far as I'm aware, all Wisper e-bikes have this function

 

[Minxy]

AFAIK, and ONLY talking about the usual ebikes up to 250w, pre-2016 'full' throttle ebikes are legal in the UK, these are the ones where the throttles can be used fully and totally independently of pedalling up to a speed of around 15mph (give of take a mile!). They also provide assistance if you want to pedal too and this obviously increases the assistance range.

There are now I believe 2 types of ebike, ones with pedal assist only and ones with low-speed 'walk' throttle and pedal assist, the former can only have assistance when being pedalled, the latter are able to be propulsed without pedalling up to 4mph so that when you are walking with them they give some help as, due to their weight they aren't always as easy to push as a non-ebike.

Abroad many countries do NOT allow 'full' throttle ebikes, but do allow the 'walk' throttle ones.

Its a while since I looked into this but I believe this is still the case.

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[jumartoo]

In Spain pedal assist ebikes are classed the same as any other bike.

Throttle operated ones are not illegal, but they have to be registered and insured the same way as a moped.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAEegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3-GRCzzTb1__PmJLUsu6ak