Talking of weights - We can all read the design weights (axle, gross and train) of our vehicles from the brochures / manufacturer's plate but has anyone actually physically weighed their unit in 'laden' (holiday /touring use) condition - ie axles and gross?? - and if so - how did it fare compared to design ?? You will be amazed at the number of 'caravans' being towed that exceed their design and towing weights (perhaps this is why they so often come unstuck from the carriageways!!) Reason for my question - I have an enforcement background and am currently exploring first purchase - 2 axles is very nice but there are horrendous weight issues with 2 axle coaches (hence your modern touring coach (PSV) is going to 3 axles, to enable passengers to take luggage legally!!) How do 2 axles fare with 'loads' of black, grey and clean water plus the best part of a tank of diesel - together with all the bits and extras 'we' have added since we purchased the 'empty' coach. I have no wish to fall foul of my ex-colleagues on the grounds of axle /gross weight (or using a vehicle in a dangerous condition if design weights are exceeded!) - is 3 axles the safer answer ?? Be interested to see design -v- actual in replies posted: Axle 1 (front) design (from manufacturers plate) Actual Axle 2 (rear) design (from manufacturers plate) Actual Gross (vehicle) design (from manufacturers plate) Actual I don't' anticipate 'train' (rv + trailer) to be an issue My thanks in anticipation Ian S.