Proposal to increase Congestion Charge Survey (1 Viewer)

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I'm all for anything to stop congestion :Smile:

Last time we had any congestion where we are, was about 3 years ago :ROFLMAO:
 

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Sorry Peter, I cant really sign that, as I live 300 miles away.

Anyway, London is a terrible place, full of millions of small Japanese people with cameras who impede the footway. Maybe a congestion charge on stupid pedestrians would rake in much more cash.

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We had some congestion here today. A skip lorry was removing a skip from a front garden, he had to block the road to do it ( bearing in mind this is a main bus route between Whitstable and Canterbury!). He was there for almost 15 minutes and by the time he went, there was a line of cars almost 15ft long that couldn't get past. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I tend to find cars and London don't mix, so whenever I go, I use the train.
Allan
 

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Contrary to what you folk in the colonies may think.... The congestion charge is not for congestion... But for pollution. .. Electric cars are exempt.. (and some hybrids)
 

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All those cars coughing out pollution what about the nice clean aeroplanes paying a bit more
 
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I thought the LEZ was for pollution and the congestion charge was for congestion? Used to be a nightmare when I worked driving in London working out if I was inside or outside the zone. I nearly went to Croydon IKEA in the Motorhome last year till I saw the signs for the LEZ and promptly drove to Lakeside instead,
If its £1.50 then are enough affected people going to complain?
I use the train when I venture in to London now but will certainly let the Company know in case they havent seen.

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sdc77

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The congestion charge is for congestion... But if you drive a non polluting car.. You're exempt .. so it is pollution based .... LEZ is for pollution only.
 

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We only suffer with congestion in haymaking season. Then you'll often see a car behind a tractor:Smile:
 

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Carry on and do what they want it does not bother me I have no intentions of ever going there again. It has been the source of the ruination of a once good country

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In the other comments I put the following:

It is becoming more and more well known TFL were instructed to increase traffic problems from the outset to add weight to the argument put forward by those who proposed the CC.

Perhaps TFL would gain more support if it now sorted out the very obvious and deliberate bottle necks that were engineered with the above in mind ?

Be seen to be DOING something about congestion rather than just taking money and doing absolutely nothing

There are two reasons for the above...

I have been privy to a recording of a planning meeting where a junction was discussed.
When a young, very new to TFL person suggested ways to improve traffic flow he was derided.. The Chairperson is heard to say ( and this is not verbatim but close enough )
It is not our job to make life easy, it is our job to make people see why CC is needed

I also know a chap who was sacked ( welll, moved sideways until his position was untenable.. They ( TFL ) are not so crass or obvious as to simply sack someone ) because he consistently tried to improve traffic flow specifically in the Charring Cross area.
I am led to believe the guy now works for the BMF..
 

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Sorry Peter, I cant really sign that, as I live 300 miles away.

Anyway, London is a terrible place, full of millions of small Japanese people with cameras who impede the footway. [HI]Maybe a congestion charge on stupid pedestrians would rake in much more cash[/HI].

Or cyclists??

Contrary to what you folk in the colonies may think.... The congestion charge is not for congestion... But for pollution. .. Electric cars are exempt.. (and some hybrids)

The congestion charge is for congestion... But if you drive a non polluting car.. You're exempt .. so it is pollution based .... LEZ is for pollution only.

So, have I got this right?
The pollution your vehicle kicks out doesn't count as long as you pay money to the authorities?

It's about screwing revenue from Joe Public.
Pollution is just the excuse.
 

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I thought the LEZ was for pollution and the congestion charge was for congestion? Used to be a nightmare when I worked driving in London working out if I was inside or outside the zone. I nearly went to Croydon IKEA in the Motorhome last year till I saw the signs for the LEZ and promptly drove to Lakeside instead,
[HI]If its £1.50 then are enough affected people going to complain?[/HI]
I use the train when I venture in to London now but will certainly let the Company know in case they havent seen.

I would say you are right in that..

Anyone who has enough money to pay the existing LEZ charges is unlikely to worry about an extra £1.10

Existing charges for motorhomes which do not comply to LEZ are:

Up to 3.5t £100 Per day ( £36,000 per year )

Over 3.5t £200 Per day ( £72,000 per year )

The annual figures are conveniently glossed over and never mentioned !!! ( But maybe you could get a discount if you are a resident.. That info is somewhat buried on the LEZ web site )

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Congestion

We - as a small business- do go up to London, we need our vehicles close by for materials & tools. By the time we have paid for our chaps to work a little longer, paid £30 for parking and some more money to TFL, allowed for the fact that you can only park in that road for 4 hours & then move the vehicle to another location, so they need to leave the job & start driving around the streets with many other vans looking for a parking place who are restricted by the 4 hour rule - more time wasted.

Any increase in the rate or the area would mean a direct increase for the customer, we already budget £80 per day per man/van :cry: before paying wages just for transportation & parking.

Since the appearance of TFL things have become more difficult & take longer for London based jobs.

Our Motor home would be in the LEZ £200 per day :Eeek: slot so we will not be playing that game any time soon either.

Arthur:thumb:
 

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Exemptions

You don't have to pay the Congestion Charge or register with us if the vehicle is recorded at the DVLA in one of these categories:

Two-wheeled motorbikes (and sidecars), and mopeds
Emergency service vehicles, such as ambulances and fire engines, which have a taxation class of 'Ambulance' or 'Fire engine'
NHS vehicles that are exempt from road tax
Vehicles used by disabled people that are exempt from road tax and have a 'disabled' taxation class
Vehicles for more than one disabled person (for example Dial-A-Ride) exempt from road tax and have a 'disabled' taxation class

And so, go on the bike, buy an old fire-engine or work for the NHS. Cool. ::bigsmile:

Never heard of a two wheeled sidecar, but hey, nothings new.
 

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Another good reason not to go to good old London town, eh?

As if we needed one.:thumb:

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I would say you are right in that..

Anyone who has enough money to pay the existing LEZ charges is unlikely to worry about an extra £1.10

Existing charges for motorhomes which do not comply to LEZ are:

Up to 3.5t £100 Per day ( £36,000 per year )

Over 3.5t £200 Per day ( £72,000 per year )

The annual figures are conveniently glossed over and never mentioned !!! ( But maybe you could get a discount if you are a resident.. That info is somewhat buried on the LEZ web site )
I think it is yet another tax on those who are already doing more than their fair share. It is about time those north of Watford Gap were encouraged to pay a bit more towards keeping the country afloat. I'm relying on Thetford being south of Watford Gap :rain:
 

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I think it is yet another tax on those who are already doing more than their fair share. It is about time those north of Watford Gap were encouraged to pay a bit more towards keeping the country afloat. I'm relying on Thetford being south of Watford Gap :rain:


Why should we in the north pay?
The London Extortion Zone collects money from all visitors for the sole benefit of Londoners, so let them either pay it themselves or elect local government who will bin it.

As small furry person is say....Seemples!

It doesn't keep the country afloat, Buttons, just London.
 
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