Do you use Biodiesel (1 Viewer)

[Don Quixote]

Thought a poll on the subject would be interesting.

NOTE: Do not want to go into the "in's and out's" of using it or "politically correct" reasons for not using it.

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

Jesus like busses these polls,not one for weeks then .......:shout::shout::shout:







Vlad

 

[Deckard]

Thought a poll on the subject would be interesting.

NOTE: Do not want to go into the "in's and out's" of using it or "politically correct" reasons for not using it.

i would - providing its sourced correctly...and its cheaper, no reason for it not to be. I have made my own until the take aways wanted me to pay for used oil :Angry:

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[enery8]

I still make my own and pay for the used oil.
Its the price of the chemicals, that keep increasing, that might put me off.:Angry:
they seem the go up each time I order them.

 

[Drew]

I guess you mean 100% bio as we all use 5%.

 

[Stephen & Jeannie]

Don't even know what it is !!

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[stcyr]

Used to use all sorts of waste=oil etc. in the old MB608. No need to bother now, with 'Delyth' as diesel's so cheap here ...

 

[steevie]

I make my own, and am a moderator on the vegatableoildiesel forum, helping others with production probs and general vehicle related problems. I certainly couldnt be off in my RV as much as we are if I didnt use biodiesel. Sad that the government has taken off the 20p per litre subsidy that commercial producers had, as now many have had to shut down, as continuing would have made biodiesel dearer than ordinary diesel. The green benefits of biodiesel are really good, with neutral Co2 [giving off only the small amount taken in by the plants growing], no sulphur dioxide, great reductions in soot and carbon monoxide etc. Just about all diesel engines will run well on well made biodiesel, despite what the doom and gloom brigade say. Biodiesel in the UK is made from large percentages of waste oil, which helps stop dumping down drains and such, which has long been a problem in cities for the water authorities. The only down side of using biodiesel is that it has poor cold qualities, and needs either winter additives, or using at a mix with standard diesel when it gets to minus zero conditions. As with anything new, there are those who will be for and against, but rudolph Diesel invented the diesel engine to run on peanut oil....and then they found fossil oil in vast quantities, so the new cheap fuel took over. Not so cheap now though.

 

[Don Quixote]

I guess you mean 100% bio as we all use 5%.

Drew, yes 100%, EDITED: Do you fill your tank with Biodiesel

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[2657]

Pointless poll then if we all use 5% bio wether we want to or not.

 

[Don Quixote]

Pointless poll then if we all use 5% bio wether we want to or not.

Noted and edited accordingly, good point.

 

[mitzimad]

i tried it in a 2002 transit and within 2 days it was running like a dog new filter and tank full of shell cured it and didnt go back again

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[jollyrodger]

i tried it in a 2002 transit and within 2 days it was running like a dog new filter and tank full of shell cured it and didnt go back again

have use of same year/type van 2.0 weaned it onto bio (proper mix,not just Diesel and wvo mix)over a few runs then in cold w/x 75% bio/Diesel warm w/x 100% Bio van goes all over UK no probs ,also use it in 2.5 Cherokee jeep and camper :thumb:

 

[Don Quixote]

have use of same year/type van 2.0 weaned it onto bio (proper mix,not just Diesel and wvo mix)over a few runs then in cold w/x 75% bio/Diesel warm w/x 100% Bio van goes all over UK no probs ,also use it in 2.5 Cherokee jeep and camper :thumb:

Well at the moment I'm running 1 tank Bio and next tank diesel. Cannot say I have notice a great MPG difference.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Current EU spec is 7% max. "Bio" is generally above 20% as in B20. Pure biofuel is B100. Poor cold properties, can destroy some seals in the system but is a good lubricant (sulphur used to be the lubricant in old diesel; they had to introduce the lubricity test in EN590 when they introduced Ultra low sulphur fuel). Good stuff in the right motor, provided that it is local and not palm oil based or similar from Malaysia/Indonesia. I like it but would never use it in my 'van

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[oldun]

Well at the moment I'm running 1 tank Bio and next tank diesel. Cannot say I have notice a great MPG difference.

I do wish people who say yes they do would let us know the type of engine they have. i.e is it a very modern common rail or the good old fashioned diesel in use for so many years.

I was(am!) under the impression that with modern en gines 100% is a no no.

Any further info?

 

[bigmillie]

We run a very old Merc 207d and I have fitted a two tank system extra 30l tank for veg/bio

this is run through a home made heat exchanger with a system of solenoids which enables diesel or bio/veg at the touch of a switch.

This engine (616 2.5 L ) will run on anything oily and will run happily on straight vegetable oil from Tesco's at £1 a Liter

It seems to return the same 24/26 mpg as diesel

This has been in use for about 4 years now

 

[Snowbird]

Yes. 100% in Merc 2.9td, VW 1.9td, VW 1.9 naturally aspirated. For a total of hundreds of thousands of miles, over several years. No problem whatsoever.

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[steevie]

I do wish people who say yes they do would let us know the type of engine they have. i.e is it a very modern common rail or the good old fashioned diesel in use for so many years.

I was(am!) under the impression that with modern en gines 100% is a no no.

Any further info?

There is confusion over biodiesel and vegoil as fuel. All diesel engines should run OK on well made biodiesel, but only certain engines will be alright on vegoil. The criteria for vegoil is....bosch injection only. Indirect injection only, and not common rail or unit injection. There are a few exceptions to this but wont complicate it further. As for biodiesel in modern engines, the majority of vehicles currently on the road are common rail or unit injection, and thousands are running on 100% biodiesel. A local commercial producer has parcel vans as regular customers, and the owner runs a 2012 Rangerover on it. Some who have tried it and not faired well were probably not told that after the first 500mls, or two weeks, you should change the fuel filter, as bio fuel cleans the crap out of the tank and system. This is a one off procedure, and back to normal service changes afterwards.

 

[Drew]

Some useful info for those who are confused Broken Link Removed

 

[mid4did]

Some really good information coming out here,I run the 1994 1.9 td dethleffs on 50/50 wvo/diesel in the warmer months.I,ve got 3 sources,local football club(they all do sausage and chips after matches down this way)friends of my daughters who put their old oil back in the containers for me and a local seasonal ring doughnut stand,a bit sticky in the garage filtering into the old black plastic dustbins and then into 25 litre containers sourced from a car wash but instant 50% off the fuel bill for the camper

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[StitchUp]

Besides the 'green' credentials, what are the financial savings of using Bio Diesel?

 

[steevie]

If you make it yourself, and have regular supply of waste oil.....about £2500 a year, but if you have to buy it in, due to recent changes in the tax relegating it back to the same as fossil diesel, many are struggling to sell it now at £1.25 ltr. I must really stress that biodiesel is not the same as vegoil, and only certain vehicles, like the fiat just mentioned, can run on straight veg oil. If anyone is unsure if their vehicle can run on veg, then let me know, and I will try to give the answer, but common rail and PD or unit injection can not without a twin tank conversion.