Earth strap on boxer.......? (2 Viewers)

[troikafloyd]

Can anyone advise me whether it's ok to use a new battery earth lead (round) to replace the braided earth strap which earths the starter motor on my Boxer (2004) Diesal. I ask because I believe it is the strap that has caused the problems I've had with starting the engine. As some of you know from my previous post there has been sparks coming from where the strap is situated. I tried to locate a strap in my local area but could only get the battery earth cable, can I presume as long as it is earthed etc?

 

[pappajohn]

same difference as far as earthing goes, but the round earth wire isn't as flexible and vibration proof as the braided one so may fail earlier than expected.

the braided one doesnt need to be specific to your van, as long as its a similar length and size it will do the job....and maybe even cheaper.

Halfrauds etc sell them in various sizes

 

[stcyr]

Hi. I have replaced earth-straps in the past with cables, with no problems. The only time (IMHO) a cable possibly wouldn't be suitable would be if earthing a bonnet or suchlike, subject to regular movement. I'm happy to bow to superior knowledge, not being familiar with your particular vehicle... :thumb:

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[stcyr]

Oops, synchronized posting!

 

[mid4did]

Can you not clean up the connections? If you suspect that the sparks were coming from the loose connector.
The original earth strap is braided copper seems a shame to buy new when the original would do.You,d have to clean the point of earth connection anyway before fitting a new cable.I always found that when I had calls for flat batteries a high percentage where caused by poor maintenance of battery terminals and loose fan belts.
BTW current follows the path of least resistance so if you have a poor earth cable then a path to earth would be by the next best path,possibly a throttle cable or suchlike,this can get very hot even cause sparks when it blows like a fuse!

 

[pappajohn]

Can you not clean up the connections? If you suspect that the sparks were coming from the loose connector.
The original earth strap is braided copper seems a shame to buy new when the original would do.You,d have to clean the point of earth connection anyway before fitting a new cable.I always found that when I had calls for flat batteries a high percentage where caused by poor maintenance of battery terminals and loose fan belts.
BTW current follows the path of least resistance so if you have a poor earth cable then a path to earth would be by the next best path,possibly a throttle cable or suchlike,this can get very hot even cause sparks when it blows like a fuse!

when working 'recovery' i saw far too many braided earth straps, most notably on 1990's Vauxhall cars, look in a dirty but serviceable condition...until pulled on and they come apart like pulling on a cotton wool ball

if you're going to remove it to clean the contact area you may as well replace it.

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[mid4did]

Boxer 2004 ,shouldn,t be in that bad a state,but inspect it of course before making a decision of discarding it or renewing,i,d go like for like if you do renew.

 

[Jaws]

It will be if others have sprayed the devils juice of WD 40 around !! It will be as rotten as a rotten thing that has gone rotten !!

 

[TheBig1]

It will be if others have sprayed the devils juice of WD 40 around !! It will be as rotten as a rotten thing that has gone rotten !!

Agree with this, as long term it traps dirt and water in the weave and causes the centre of the braid near the terminal to rot away to virtually nothing

if you cant find a braid of suitable length locally (it can be for any make so long as its got standard crimps on each end) you can get them cheap on ebay. just means waiting a few days for delivery. more expensive, but easy get a local auto electrician to sell you one from stock or make it for you

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[troikafloyd]

Thanks for all the advice given! I will clean/check the braided strap but will probably get a new one as now it's off it does make sense.

 

[Markyboyzz]

Thanks for all the advice given! I will clean/check the braided strap but will probably get a new one as now it's off it does make sense.

Where is the point it terminates please?
My van (2005 boxer) will not turn over unless I connect a jump lead from the battery negative to chassis so I assume a new earth lead or clean up needed, I've only had a quick look under the bonnet and didn't see, easily, where the earth lead went

 

[gus-lopez]

Where is the point it terminates please?
My van (2005 boxer) will not turn over unless I connect a jump lead from the battery negative to chassis so I assume a new earth lead or clean up needed, I've only had a quick look under the bonnet and didn't see, easily, where the earth lead went

The thread is 12 years old & the OP was last seen then also.

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[LesW]

Where is the point it terminates please?
My van (2005 boxer) will not turn over unless I connect a jump lead from the battery negative to chassis so I assume a new earth lead or clean up needed, I've only had a quick look under the bonnet and didn't see, easily, where the earth lead went

As stated this is a 12 year old thread.. But just fit a new lead from the engine/gearbox to a chassis point of your choice.

Or direct from the battery earth terminal.

 

[Markyboyzz]

Okees, cheers

 

[Markyboyzz]

I don't normally use forums so apologies if I have done something wrong, should I not post to a post that is still online and was suggested by the site as something to look at? Is there a cut off point at which I should not post an enquiry to a forum post which is still available to respond to?

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[Revolvor]

I don't normally use forums so apologies if I have done something wrong, should I not post to a post that is still online and was suggested by the site as something to look at? Is there a cut off point at which I should not post an enquiry to a forum post which is still available to respond to?

I agree - it's perfectly OK to add to an old post - just don't necessarily expect the original contributors to still be around.