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Our Rapido is 3850kg and therefore a Private HGV, does that mean that as a HGV that it cant go in the fast lane of the Motorway?
 

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I would say you would be fine but here is the guide lines

The right-hand lane of a motorway with three or more lanes MUST NOT be used (except in prescribed circumstances) if you are driving
any vehicle drawing a trailer
a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 3.5 tonnes but not exceeding 7.5 tonnes, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter
a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes
a passenger vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver
a passenger vehicle with a maximum laden weight not exceeding 7.5 tonnes which is constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter

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wouldn't be too sure on that one but as you can only legally do 60mph on the motorway as you are over 3500kg i wouldn't worry about it.
 

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wouldn't be too sure on that one but as you can only legally do 60mph on the motorway as you are over 3500kg i wouldn't worry about it.

Not quite. Limit is 60 on a dual carriageway but 70 on a motorway - see link in my previous post :Smile:

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Funnily enough I was involved in a case about this about 7-8 years ago.

Not really my area of law but I thought what the hell.

Facts were someone in a yank was pulled over for being in the fast lane. The individual must have contacted the USA firm ( cannot recall who it was ) and they asked my firm to challenge it on the basis that it wasn't classed as a HGV.

We turned up in Court and the prosecution offered no evidence so it was booted out.

There may have been cases since that I dont know about but certainly the CPS didn't fancy it at the time.
 

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yup these links are about as clear as mud.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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anyway think of all that extra fuel you will save by doing 60 in that really non-aerodynamic motorhome:thumb:

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anyway think of all that extra fuel you will save by doing 60 in that really non-aerodynamic motorhome:thumb:
Until you come across some bloody minded middle lane hoggers (and there are lots of them), doing high 50 something, forcing you to speed up in order to pass them safely in the overtaking lane. :Angry:.............:winky:

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Jock.
 

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i dont care 60mph is quite fast enough at least i may have a slightly better chance of stopping than if doing 70mph when the car driver cuts me up approaching the exit slip road that they nearly missed because their I-Phone seemed more important than the road signs:Doh:

although saying that i may be able to use 6th gear if i did 70.

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Whats all this about a fast lane on a motorway or dual carriageway. I thought all other lanes other than the inside lane were overtaking lanes.:Smile:
 

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Whats all this about a fast lane on a motorway or dual carriageway. I thought all other lanes other than the inside lane were overtaking lanes.:Smile:

I use the M25 a lot.

I find all lanes are overtaking lanes these days.

Just pick a lane and go for it.

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Interestingly, the link provided by GJH earlier suggests that the Speed limits all change when the vehicle exceeds 3050 Kgs which is an unusual weight.

I had in my mind that the magic figure was infact 3500 Kgs ( 450 Kgs More )

Maybe a typo but never the less misleading

Neil
 
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Interstingly, the link provided by GJH earlier suggests that the Speed limits all change when the vehicle exceeds 3050 Kgs which is an unusual weight.

I had in my mind that the magic figure was infact 3500 Kgs ( 450 Kgs More )

Maybe a typo but never the less misleading

Neil
Not a typo Neil. 3050 Kg is the metric equivalent of 3 Imperial tons. The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 uses metric weights but its predecessors used Imperial weights.
 

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Interstingly, the link provided by GJH earlier suggests that the Speed limits all change when the vehicle exceeds 3050 Kgs which is an unusual weight.

I had in my mind that the magic figure was infact 3500 Kgs ( 450 Kgs More )

Maybe a typo but never the less misleading

Neil
Hi Neil,

No, the figure is definitely 3.05 tonnes (3,050kgs), which I agree is confusing. There must be thousands who have been caught out by that one.

BTW, there are two speed/safety cameras in Lincolnshire, on a single carriageway that I go through at 50mph in the MH, and although they always flash me, I never get a ticket. :winky:

Cheers,

Jock.

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I plod along at 60mph (100kph) when on motorways, I seem to get to my destination about the same time as the speeders doing 70 & 80 as they nearly always meet something to slow them down, usually someone in the outside lane doing 60mph.

Anyway the vehicle sways to much after 60mph especially if a slight side wind.
 

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Hi Neil,

No, the figure is definitely 3.05 tonnes (3,050kgs), which I agree is confusing. There must be thousands who have been caught out by that one.

BTW, there are two speed/safety cameras in Lincolnshire, on a single carriageway that I go through at 50mph in the MH, and although they always flash me, I never get a ticket. :winky:Cheers,

Jock.

But, one day you might, Never take anything for granted
 
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I believe 3050kgs is in fact the unladen weight of the vehical that is restricted to 60mph

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But, one day you might, Never take anything for granted
Why would I? I haven't exceeded the maximum speed limit for our 5 tonne MH on a single carriageway. :ROFLMAO:

It must either be the height being picked up by a height sensor, or the 3 x axles being picked up by sensors in the road, which sets the cameras off. :winky:

Cheers,

Jock.
 

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wouldn't be too sure on that one but as you can only legally do 60mph on the motorway as you are over 3500kg i wouldn't worry about it.

I have to keep to 55 mph max when I have the car trailer attached and cannot use the outside lane.

My RV with trailer is just under 7.5 tons.... out of interest..my Snooper is set up for my size, axles and weight plus the trailer... in some parts of the UK I am warned I am over speed as there is a lower limit on HGV's .. as my details entered show I am an HGV I could get flashed on the camera... not sure if the height activates them or what... but I gather a lot of trucks have come unstuck... in Europe my max speed is 90 kph which is the same as my 55 mpg in the UK.. which also is my best cruise speed as I run at 1800 to 1900 rpm ... being a petrol engined V10 6.8 I consider the speed v running costs are an issue. But must admit do get fed up looking at the back of trucks all the time in the slow lane.


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I find it very stressful following anything bigger than me that I can't see 100% round/through/past, for any distance even though it may be in the strictest interests of economy for our aerodynamic brick to stay there.

I stick it as long as I can then ask Pete to, 'Please overtake this lorry before my head explodes, dear' :roflmto:

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Just to throw petrol on the fire-----I was told/thought it went on wheel size (duno where that came from)I used to have a 7.5 ton ex bread delivery truck with 18 ins wheels that I was led to believe (rightly or wrongly) could go in lane 3 up to 70mph.Anything with above 18 ins wheels was restricted to lane 2 and 56 mph-About 4 yrs ago I was driving my sons 7.5 ton box van (18 ins wheels)in lane 3 when I passed a traffic cop car-hiding in front of a 30 tonner,so it was too late for me to duck in ::bigsmile:They never pulled me so I guess it must be OK as I am never that lucky to get away with anything like that.:Smile:
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It could be that over 18ins wheels require a class 3 ?
 

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for those who either never saw, or couldnt be bothered, to open Grahams link....

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The weight of 3050kg is the unladen weight of the vehicle.
To have an unladen weight of more than 3050kg, this would be a bloody big vehicle.

Contrary to what many think, the vehicle's unladen weight cannot be readily checked. It is a manufacturer's statement, and is impossible to physically check this weight after manufacture is complete.
It is the weight of the vehicle as it leaves the production line, devoid of any crew, passengers, spare wheels, tools, loose equipment, fuels or fluids of any kind.

The common misapprehension seems to be that the "unladen" weight is what the thing weighs before a load of holiday kit, food, gas, etc. is loaded.
That would be the "Kerbside" weight, this being the vehicle in complete road going state without any crew or load.

That's how it is, and the figure of 3050 unladen is the one affecting limits, as GJH and PPJ say.
 

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Our Rapido is 3850kg and therefore a Private HGV, does that mean that as a HGV that it cant go in the fast lane of the Motorway?

Yes you are allowed in the outside lane on the motorway. Be careful though. A lot of car drivers don't believe that you are allowed and don't expect you to pull out.

Your quite likely to get flashed by car drivers who don't think you should be there.

Jim
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I have occasionally (very occasionally) made it into the third lane of a motorway. Although I know I'm legally allowed there, for some reason it never feels right. :wub:

I tend to tuck myself in behind a lorry doing 60 mph and follow on. Have often felt quite bereft when after many miles it leaves the motorway before I do. :RollEyes:

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