Ducato engine/gearbox given up in France. (1 Viewer)

[Emmit]

At least the difference was noticed, BEFORE he/she tried fitting it.

 

[Jackd]

I think that is euro 6 & yours is euro 5.
I’m trying to find out what is housed there, but no luck yet.
Is that a brand new engine or a refurbished unit? Seems to be some tell tell signs of the latter.

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[Lenny HB]

Looks like an outlet from the crankcase water jacket
It looks blanked off already, maybe just an updated block that covers more versions.
I would expect the dealer to talk yo Fiat before panicing
Certainly not helping your stress levels.

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[duc461]

Looks like an outlet from the crankcase water jacket

Yes it is.
It's either inlet or outlet, not sure which, for the Euro6B's low pressure EGR cooler (marked X in this picture).

 

[Jackd]

Yes it is.
It's either inlet or outlet, not sure which, for the Euro6B's low pressure EGR cooler (marked X in this picture).

Guessing, but presumably, could be blanked then as the euro 5 doesn’t use the system?

 

[Lenny HB]

I think the garage is panicking over nothing.

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[chaser]

How is all this going to affect your 90 days?

 

[Mixyblob]

How is all this going to affect your 90 days?

No probs… yet

 

[Taran_Las]

Mixyblob you're one patient person. I hope it all comes together for you PDQ.

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[denisejoe]

UPDATE.
Mechanic back at work today, opens box containing new engine, all ready to fit it.
Wrong f in engine
Apparently its not their fault, Fiat Italy sent the wrong one. Grrrr.

Had exactly the same thing on mine only had to wait for Fiat to return from holiday

 

[gus-lopez]

My thinking is why not blank off the hole and get on with it.

Yes. no it is known it is for something you don't have thanks to the poster below. I'dsuggest it to the garage..

Yes it is.
It's either inlet or outlet, not sure which, for the Euro6B's low pressure EGR cooler (marked X in this picture).

welcome

 

[Landy Andy]

Probably best to leave it to the garage that are fitting it, and the supplier. Loads of speculation isn’t going to help.

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[Jackd]

In post #299 the OP asked us for our opinion.

We gave it to him.

 

[Landy Andy]

In post #299 the OP asked us for our opinion.

We gave it to him.

And that is my opinion. You can’t tell if it is the correct block from a single pic, and it isn’t going to make any difference to the garage/person installing it.

 

[Jackd]

And that is my opinion. You can’t tell if it is the correct block from a single pic, and it isn’t going to make any difference to the garage/person installing it.

It is the wrong block. Confirmed by the mechanic.
The OP wanted to know if this can be overcome.

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[Kozikot]

Well NASA will know where to come if the Space Shuttle needs repairing...

 

[Landy Andy]

It is the wrong block. Confirmed by the mechanic.
The OP wanted to know if this can be overcome.

Yes, I know that. Am I’m saying you can’t tell from one picture of a new engine and an old picture, and you certainly can’t take the option from a few people on a forum some of which will have never built an engine, but will certainly want warranty provided with it.

So again. My opinion is that the person installing it, the garage who will be providing the warranty, and the supplier must be happy with it being the correct engine. Not

 

[theGman]

Just coming to this post today. I had a 2.3 engine fail on me last Augustwhile touring England. The van was a 2018 bolero, 24k on the clock. I got an insufficient oil pressure warning then really scary noise. Engine was totally seized. After getting recovered to our local Fiat garage in Scotland I had to go abroad for work. Fiat garage was a nightmare to deal with, they were dealing with my wife over the phone. All they would tell her was it was 'oil starvation' I kept asking how the arrived at this then I asked for engineers report, I didn't get one , I said I'd provide an independent engineer to assess the damage. Their reply was they would not accept 3rd party report as proof. I am a mechanic working offshore in oil exploration and 22 years aircraft engineering experience before that so I asked for a report in technical terms, I never got it. After a huge drawn out process we got our van back in January. with a huge bill. When I was talking to the technician that done all the work he gave me copies of pictures he took, he said he never decided what the fault was all he did was take the pictures and videos and send them to FIAT Italy. Bottom line is #4 injector was found blown and a valve in #4 cylinder snapped. I asked him to explain the pictures and how that pointed to oil starvation. I said to me it looked like the tip of the blown injector entered the cylinder and stopped a valve from fully closing, then the valve was struck repeatedly until it snapped. He said 'well I've never saw that before. Still waiting for explanation from FIAT Italy. Good luck.

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[Mixyblob]

UPDATE
French garage emailed yesterday to say Fiat Italy have told them its ok to use the engine and just to blank off the EGR hole as suggested by several Funsters.

Anyway blanking plate due Friday (I'm sure I could have knocked one up out of 3 mm plate in my shed) so, we should be back on the road next week.

 

[Jackd]

UPDATE
French garage emailed yesterday to say Fiat Italy have told them its ok to use the engine and just to blank off the EGR hole as suggested by several Funsters.

Anyway blanking plate due Friday (I'm sure I could have knocked one up out of 3 mm plate in my shed) so, we should be back on the road next week.

Excellent news. Well done

So much for funsters speculation eh.

 

[WESTY66]

UPDATE
French garage emailed yesterday to say Fiat Italy have told them its ok to use the engine and just to blank off the EGR hole as suggested by several Funsters.

Anyway blanking plate due Friday (I'm sure I could have knocked one up out of 3 mm plate in my shed) so, we should be back on the road next week.

It’ll be done before this heap of scrap at this rate, engine just gone in tho
Great news for you though

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[Mixyblob]

Excellent news. Well done

So much for funsters speculation eh.

Dunno whatyou mean

 

[Mixyblob]

UPDATE
Our van is now back on the road and heading for Dieppe as I type.
A total of just over €12000 and just tover a month from breaking down to getting it fixed.
Not the best way to spend our time in France but it hasn't put us off, we're planning another trip in the Autum.
Thankyou to all the funsters who have contributed to this thread and all the help and advice and hugs and kisses offered.

Jim (transport, logistics and maintainence)
and
Andrea (navigation, catering and soft furnishings)

 

[Poutie57]

That’s good news, hope the new engine performs well and glad to here you haven’t been put off

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[jockaneezer]

What's French for "Running in-please pass !"

 

[Miggs]

What can you say? Total fiasco.

Or a Total Fiatsco maybe?

 

[WESTY66]

UPDATE
Our van is now back on the road and heading for Dieppe as I type.
A total of just over €12000 and just tover a month from breaking down to getting it fixed.
Not the best way to spend our time in France but it hasn't put us off, we're planning another trip in the Autum.
Thankyou to all the funsters who have contributed to this thread and all the help and advice and hugs and kisses offered.

Jim (transport, logistics and maintainence)
and
Andrea (navigation, catering and soft furnishings)

When did you get it running? the big heap of CAT scrap above got running again at 2.10 yesterday afternoon

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[63720]

UPDATE
Our van is now back on the road and heading for Dieppe as I type.
A total of just over €12000 and just tover a month from breaking down to getting it fixed.
Not the best way to spend our time in France but it hasn't put us off, we're planning another trip in the Autum.
Thankyou to all the funsters who have contributed to this thread and all the help and advice and hugs and kisses offered.

Jim (transport, logistics and maintainence)
and
Andrea (navigation, catering and soft furnishings)

New cambelt...? Just asking

 

[Mixyblob]

New cambelt...? Just asking

Ha ha, yes new cambelt, injectors, water pump etc etc

 

[Mixyblob]

When did you get it running? the big heap of CAT scrap above got running again at 2.10 yesterday afternoon

Dunno about first running, but it moved under its own steam on monday, according to our tracker.

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