Lincolnshire bans overnight stops in some carparks (1 Viewer)

[hja]

Overnight stays at coastal car parks to be banned

Overnight stays at coastal car parks run by Lincolnshire County Council are to be banned.

www.lincolnshireworld.com

Hope I’ve pasted this correctly. Essentially Lincs CC have decided motorhomes take up too much space, leave rubbish and grey water, and height barriers are not working!!

 

[GJH]

This has been on the cards for years because of continued abuse of the regulations by some people.
Not for the first time others suffer from the actions of such people.

 

[Tonks]

I would've thought the bigger issue is that Lincs CC are also banning parking in their car parks AT ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT vehicles over 6m in length:
"From November 1st, we will introduce a parking order which will prohibit parking for all vehicles in our car parks overnight, and at all times for vehicles over 6m in length."
Which means that people with motorhomes, who just want to go out for the day when they're in Lincolnshire, will now not be able to park in any of the council's coastal car parks. Furthermore, the same press release states that 'waiting restrictions' are also being imposed on surrounding roads, which means that people with larger vehicles will have absolutely nowhere to legally park if they're visiting coastal towns.

The same thing has already happened in some Hampshire areas, where consistent flaunting of the 'no overnighting' signs resulted in total 24/7/365 bans on some of the clifftop car parks, and restrictions being implemented in some inland areas, where there were no restrictions before. This is why the 'We'll ignore the signs because of x, y or z reason' brigade annoy me as their entitled attitudes only result in LESS access for people with larger vehicles or motorhomes, not more. Furthermore, in Hampshire, this isn't just vehicles over 6m, but 'camper vans' or 'motorhomes'. Which, if the online T&Cs are checked, mean 'any vehicle adapted for sleeping'. So someone with a tiny micro-camper is banned, along with someone with an F1-style multi-axle conversion.

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[gpat]

Oh no. That's means Lincolnshire is off the agenda for another year. What a loss to the motorhome world.

 

[Riverbankannie]

I would've thought the bigger issue is that Lincs CC are also banning parking in their car parks AT ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT vehicles over 6m in length:
"From November 1st, we will introduce a parking order which will prohibit parking for all vehicles in our car parks overnight, and at all times for vehicles over 6m in length."
Which means that people with motorhomes, who just want to go out for the day when they're in Lincolnshire, will now not be able to park in any of the council's coastal car parks. Furthermore, the same press release states that 'waiting restrictions' are also being imposed on surrounding roads, which means that people with larger vehicles will have absolutely nowhere to legally park if they're visiting coastal towns.

The same thing has already happened in some Hampshire areas, where consistent flaunting of the 'no overnighting' signs resulted in total 24/7/365 bans on some of the clifftop car parks, and restrictions being implemented in some inland areas, where there were no restrictions before. This is why the 'We'll ignore the signs because of x, y or z reason' brigade annoy me as their entitled attitudes only result in LESS access for people with larger vehicles or motorhomes, not more. Furthermore, in Hampshire, this isn't just vehicles over 6m, but 'camper vans' or 'motorhomes'. Which, if the online T&Cs are checked, mean 'any vehicle adapted for sleeping'. So someone with a tiny micro-camper is banned, along with someone with an F1-style multi-axle conversion.

This is what jumped out at me too. Our Ducato van is 6.3m

 

[DuxDeluxe]

This has been on the cards for years because of continued abuse of the regulations by some people.
Not for the first time others suffer from the actions of such people.

I visited Huttoft last year and was surprised to see so many vans that had clearly been there for some time.

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[Tonks]

Oh no. That's means Lincolnshire is off the agenda for another year. What a loss to the motorhome world.

OK, you may not be interested in visiting Lincolnshire (although it's a beautiful county with much of interest to see in terms of countryside, nature including seabirds and seals, history, and coastline), but this situation further establishes precedents which other councils in areas more to your liking will no doubt be under pressure to follow. Thus increasing the limitations on MH/Campervan users. And, before anyone says 'pah to the UK, we'll just travel abroad instead where it's all hunkeydorey', actually quite a few of us like touring in the UK - even those who also enjoy travelling further afield - and are dismayed to see our national access eroded increasingly.

 

[Jamesh]

I cannot see how the can enforce this and discriminate again those like me who have a dual purpose vehicle. Mine is in fact a tri purpose vehicle as it's a welfare van for a local charity, my personal transport as well as being a camper on the rare occasion. Not measured it length - lwb ford transit.

Cheers James

 

[Googlebot]

A real shame, I have noticed since we got a Motorhome we tend to do Scotland much more as the parking is so much easier.

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[gpat]

OK, you may not be interested in visiting Lincolnshire (although it's a beautiful county with much of interest to see in terms of countryside, nature including seabirds and seals, history, and coastline), but this situation further establishes precedents which other councils in areas more to your liking will no doubt be under pressure to follow. Thus increasing the limitations on MH/Campervan users. And, before anyone says 'pah to the UK, we'll just travel abroad instead where it's all hunkeydorey', actually quite a few of us like touring in the UK - even those who also enjoy travelling further afield - and are dismayed to see our national access eroded increasingly.

No offence meant. It was just a joke. My point is more that silly councils that do this do not realise that nice people, who would contribute to the local economy will just go elsewhere.

 

[busby]

I would've thought the bigger issue is that Lincs CC are also banning parking in their car parks AT ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT vehicles over 6m in length:
"From November 1st, we will introduce a parking order which will prohibit parking for all vehicles in our car parks overnight, and at all times for vehicles over 6m in length."
Which means that people with motorhomes, who just want to go out for the day when they're in Lincolnshire, will now not be able to park in any of the council's coastal car parks. Furthermore, the same press release states that 'waiting restrictions' are also being imposed on surrounding roads, which means that people with larger vehicles will have absolutely nowhere to legally park if they're visiting coastal towns.

The same thing has already happened in some Hampshire areas, where consistent flaunting of the 'no overnighting' signs resulted in total 24/7/365 bans on some of the clifftop car parks, and restrictions being implemented in some inland areas, where there were no restrictions before. This is why the 'We'll ignore the signs because of x, y or z reason' brigade annoy me as their entitled attitudes only result in LESS access for people with larger vehicles or motorhomes, not more. Furthermore, in Hampshire, this isn't just vehicles over 6m, but 'camper vans' or 'motorhomes'. Which, if the online T&Cs are checked, mean 'any vehicle adapted for sleeping'. So someone with a tiny micro-camper is banned, along with someone with an F1-style multi-axle conversion.

Just another reason to tour in Europe.BUSBY.

 

[Skez]

Yet another reason to avoid motorhoming in the UK.

Shortsighted, discriminatory, blinkered.

Presumably no one on the council considered how many commercial white vans (LWB Fiats, Peugeots, Citroens, Fords, Mercs and VW's) are all over 6m in length. Even the standard 6m commercial vans are over 6m when you take into account the rear steps, bumper extensions and towbars.

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[James-Alex]

Oh no. That's means Lincolnshire is off the agenda for another year. What a loss to the motorhome world.

Jim should change the “Coventry” to Lincolnshire

 

[James-Alex]

OK, you may not be interested in visiting Lincolnshire (although it's a beautiful county with much of interest to see in terms of countryside, nature including seabirds and seals, history, and coastline), but this situation further establishes precedents which other councils in areas more to your liking will no doubt be under pressure to follow. Thus increasing the limitations on MH/Campervan users. And, before anyone says 'pah to the UK, we'll just travel abroad instead where it's all hunkeydorey', actually quite a few of us like touring in the UK - even those who also enjoy travelling further afield - and are dismayed to see our national access eroded increasingly.

Hopefully more places will allow overnight in pubs. We like the U.K. and haven’t been to France in our van yet. I love the idea of France and also love the idea of pub stop overs as you get a meal for the price of a pitch. The parking issues are all over the U.K. now not just certain places

 

[Eggs]

I would've thought the bigger issue is that Lincs CC are also banning parking in their car parks AT ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT vehicles over 6m in length:
"From November 1st, we will introduce a parking order which will prohibit parking for all vehicles in our car parks overnight, and at all times for vehicles over 6m in length."
Which means that people with motorhomes, who just want to go out for the day when they're in Lincolnshire, will now not be able to park in any of the council's coastal car parks. Furthermore, the same press release states that 'waiting restrictions' are also being imposed on surrounding roads, which means that people with larger vehicles will have absolutely nowhere to legally park if they're visiting coastal towns.

The same thing has already happened in some Hampshire areas, where consistent flaunting of the 'no overnighting' signs resulted in total 24/7/365 bans on some of the clifftop car parks, and restrictions being implemented in some inland areas, where there were no restrictions before. This is why the 'We'll ignore the signs because of x, y or z reason' brigade annoy me as their entitled attitudes only result in LESS access for people with larger vehicles or motorhomes, not more. Furthermore, in Hampshire, this isn't just vehicles over 6m, but 'camper vans' or 'motorhomes'. Which, if the online T&Cs are checked, mean 'any vehicle adapted for sleeping'. So someone with a tiny micro-camper is banned, along with someone with an F1-style multi-axle conversion.

Yep, the 6 meter bit is the sticking point. We can always go out on The Fens at night.

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[Skez]

Hopefully more places will allow overnight in pubs. We like the U.K. and haven’t been to France in our van yet. I love the idea of France and also love the idea of pub stop overs as you get a meal for the price of a pitch. The parking issues are all over the U.K. now not just certain places

The trouble with Pub Stops / Britstops for us is that there is no way we would want to eat and drink in a pub every night - why would we when we have everything we need in the van?? £40 a night every night becomes very expensive if you are doing more than a couple of weeks travelling. They would however, be great for us occasionally - as a back-up.

I know there is supposed to be no obligation on the Britstops scheme - but that's not what it's about for the hosts, and I get that. They're running a business after all. I would feel it only right to spend money in their business.

A car park clogged up with vans not patronising the establishment is no advantage to them at all.

I really don't think pub stops are the answer. The tunnel or a ferry is.

 

[Puddleduck]

Letter sent to County Council pointing out that many vehicles adapted for disability are over 6m and that places such as Hawick. Welshpool, Ripon, York, Iron Bridge, Lancaster and even Edinburgh have been more than helpful in arranging parking for a long vehicle adapted for disability, either by special arrangement or by having dedicated parking spaces for such vehicles.

I'll see what they have to say.

 

[Alan]

Lincolnshire today thought it would be quiet now the sprogs have returned to school

Yes

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[Trev45]

As the owner of a 6 metre van I feel quite smug that for once having a shorter one has advantages.

 

[James-Alex]

As the owner of a 6 metre van I feel quite smug that for once having a shorter one has advantages.

Hope it’s able to fit under the height barriers

 

[Eggs]

As the owner of a 6 metre van I feel quite smug that for once having a shorter one has advantages.

It's not how big it is, it's what you do with it.

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[AndyPK]

No offence meant. It was just a joke. My point is more that silly councils that do this do not realise that nice people, who would contribute to the local economy will just go elsewhere.

The trouble is, there will be less places to go elsewhere to………..

 

[phase3begins]

Title is incorrect.
Lincolnshire has not banned overnight stops. It has put restrictions on overnight parking in some places.

 

[GJH]

I visited Huttoft last year and was surprised to see so many vans that had clearly been there for some time.

That's been the worst area for abuse for years

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[GJH]

I cannot see how the can enforce this and discriminate again those like me who have a dual purpose vehicle. Mine is in fact a tri purpose vehicle as it's a welfare van for a local charity, my personal transport as well as being a camper on the rare occasion. Not measured it length - lwb ford transit.

Cheers James

They can enforce it by passing the TRO as intended and ticketing vehicles that disobey the restriction.
It has been a problem for years so blame the abusers, not the council which has finally had enough of the abuse.

 

[GJH]

Title is incorrect.
Lincolnshire has not banned overnight stops. It has put restrictions on overnight parking in some places.

The reason being that the existing ban on camping has been abused by some for so long.

 

[Northernraider]

England is just a place to drive through to access nice places it just means that instead of spending 1 or 2 days travelling from Scotland to europe ill cut it down to one.

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[marchie]

Overnight stays at coastal car parks to be banned

Overnight stays at coastal car parks run by Lincolnshire County Council are to be banned.

www.lincolnshireworld.com

Hope I’ve pasted this correctly. Essentially Lincs CC have decided motorhomes take up too much space, leave rubbish and grey water, and height barriers are not working!!

So Lincolnshire has not suffered economically because of either the decision to leave Europe, or because of COVID, and the caravan and camping site and other local businesses who would benefit from motorhomer spending are doing so fabulously well, that they don't need the tourism income?

In contrast, Hawick Council welcomed some 25 Motorhomes to an Informal Meet [arranged in advance, before formal Rallies were allowed to resume], and made fresh water refills and chemical toilet emptying facilities available. The Group spend was tallied up so that the Tourism Officer could report the outcome to the Council; we managed to spend just shy of £2300 [£2287 IIRC] during the 4 days, an average of £91+ per Van ... And the Group has been invited to stage a Hogmanay Rally in the same venue [@irnbru is the fount of knowledge on this event ...] and there's a racing certainty that the earlier Rally Spend will be beaten , with not a hap'orth of bother or litter, just enjoyment, good company, good behaviourand general bonhomie ['cos, to paraphrase Max Boyce's 'The Scottish Trip', 'So we can go next year again!']

Can somebody help me down off my soapbox, please? Don't want to stumble and break an ankle ...

Steve

 

[Northernraider]

The reason being that the existing ban on camping has been abused by some for so long.

Told you before parking isnt camping .

Regardless of councils saying it is.

 

[Rapido925M]

East Suffolk did the same around Easter but rescinded it in most carparks by the start of summer. WRITE to Lincs CC NOW!

Petition to allow motorhomes in East Suffolk Council car parks

East Suffolk District Council are planning to ban motorhomes and campervans from their seaside car parks. We've started a petition here http://chng.it/L74SnL4SCb Be great to have the Funster community's backing! Chris

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

Larger vehicles and campervans » East Suffolk Council

East Suffolk

www.eastsuffolk.gov.uk

Gordon

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