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[Snowbird]

The big panic affecting many motorhomers in the UK seems to be the 90 day rule. As I see it there are many countries outside the Schengen worth visiting. Bulgaria Romania and Croatia being just a few. I can think of worse places to be than Romanias Danube Delta. A lovely part of the world and cheap as chips compared with the Schengen zone. A three day drive, so no further than Spain, use 3 of your 90 days up getting there and 3 coming back. Job done.

 

[tonka]

Oi you.. !!!
Stop putting ideas into our heads.. You did that with Morroco and look where that went.

 

[EzeeRider]

Whose panicing? We very rarely do more than 60 days, 45 days are just right and avoids paying extra on my health insurance.
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[Snowbird]

I remember not long after the fall of communism travelling across the top part of Poland. Campsites were completely full of Germans taking advantage of the cheap cost of living. I can see the Black Sea resorts having a huge influx of Brits come the summer. Kamenitza beer at 70p a pint and change out of a fiver for a 3 course meal. Bring it on baby.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Or pay for a tourist visa for your preferred Schengen country

 

[gpat]

Or pay for a tourist visa for your preferred Schengen country

No absolutely not. Let's do as the OP suggests and wait till the schengen brigade beg us to come back. They need us a lot more than we need them

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[spitfire]

Or pay for a tourist visa for your preferred Schengen country

Are there any ? Certainly not aware of one for France for only tourism . Think our Oz daughter can apply to come for longer as she is visiting family.

 

[Tanya_and_Mick]

No absolutely not. Let's do as the OP suggests and wait till the schengen brigade beg us to come back. They need us a lot more than we need them

Well.....

the UK is the country of origin of a majority of tourists, accounting for 21% of all arrivals and 19% of tourist spending in 2019. It also noted that British nationals are the main foreign buyers of homes in Spain, representing 14% of all purchases by non-residents last year.

Source El Pais (employer association ceoe)

 

[EuroTrotters]

Are there any ? Certainly not aware of one for France for only tourism . Think our Oz daughter can apply to come for longer as she is visiting family.

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[DBK]

Or pay for a tourist visa for your preferred Schengen country

No such thing but they might make them available for UK tourists in the future. It is something they have control of but I'm not holding my breath. The link you posted above isn't relevant to us in the UK. We can currently visit for up to 90 days - and no longer - people in many other countries need to apply just to come for a weekend. It will change for us in 2022 with ETIAS but that won't be an issue. The visa lasts for three years and costs under a tenner

Technically, long stay visas do exist but you need a reason for getting one and even the EU's own website says they are hard to get and I think they need to know where you are going to be staying.

Interesting times and I'm sure some Funsters will give the system a trial.

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

Visas are just for work or study aren't they?

 

[Chrisvh]

Well.....

the UK is the country of origin of a majority of tourists, accounting for 21% of all arrivals and 19% of tourist spending in 2019. It also noted that British nationals are the main foreign buyers of homes in Spain, representing 14% of all purchases by non-residents last year.

Source El Pais (employer association ceoe)

Since when was 21% “a majority”. Apologies for being pedantic.

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[Robert Clark]

The big panic affecting many motorhomers in the UK seems to be the 90 day rule. As I see it there are many countries outside the Schengen worth visiting. Bulgaria Romania and Croatia being just a few. I can think of worse places to be than Romanias Danube Delta. A lovely part of the world and cheap as chips compared with the Schengen zone. A three day drive, so no further than Spain, use 3 of your 90 days up getting there and 3 coming back. Job done.

Where do you stay in Romania ?

looking on Google maps it’s a 2700km drive

 

[Pekepal]

No absolutely not. Let's do as the OP suggests and wait till the schengen brigade beg us to come back. They need us a lot more than we need them

I think I read a visa was only £6 for 12 months. I wait To be corrected!

 

[Snowbird]

Where do you stay in Romania ?

The Danube delta is stunning. Unfortunately Rumania does not have so many resorts as Bulgaria close to the Black Sea and I have to admit campsites are not what you are used to in southern Europe. It does get unbearably hot in the height of summer though.

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[Tanya_and_Mick]

Since when was 21% “a majority”. Apologies for being pedantic.

No apology required - I agree; El Pais’ view / translation (perhaps the remaining 79% was made up of multiple countries, each less than 21%).

Unfortunately the full list of countries and their percentages were not published.

But in the spirit of the post - to highlight how much the UK is needed by some countries - I thought it may be of interest...

 

[Robert Clark]

The Danube delta is stunning. Unfortunately Rumania does not have so many resorts as Bulgaria close to the Black Sea and I have to admit campsites are not what you are used to in southern Europe. It does get unbearably hot in the height of summer though.

Do you really drive all that way in just 3 days ?

 

[jumartoo]

The big panic affecting many motorhomers in the UK seems to be the 90 day rule. As I see it there are many countries outside the Schengen worth visiting. Bulgaria Romania and Croatia being just a few. I can think of worse places to be than Romanias Danube Delta. A lovely part of the world and cheap as chips compared with the Schengen zone. A three day drive, so no further than Spain, use 3 of your 90 days up getting there and 3 coming back. Job done.

How's the winter sun in those places?

Winter seems to be the biggest concern for most tourists.

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[Coolcats]

No absolutely not. Let's do as the OP suggests and wait till the schengen brigade beg us to come back. They need us a lot more than we need them

Don’t think anyone needs to beg, the Chinese have been flocking to Europe in larger and larger groups.

 

[Snowbird]

Do you really drive all that way in just 3 days ?

We used to own an apartment in Sveti Vlas on the Black Sea, about an hours drive from Istanbul. It took 3 days to drive there in a panel van conversion.

 

[Snowbird]

How's the winter sun in those places?

Winter seems to be the biggest concern for most tourists.

No such thing as winter sun. Its unbearably hot in summer and snow in winter. April through till September, then Spain for 90 days.

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[jumartoo]

No such thing as winter sun. Its unbearably hot in summer and snow in winter. April through till September, then Spain for 90 days.

So EU (Schengen) sunny countries are still the go to places for winter and where some people are wanting more than 90 days.

We skied in Bulgaria years ago over new year and no way could you motorhome there. Anyone heading there with windscreen wipers could do a good deal with the locals

 

[Snowbird]

Where do you stay in Romania ?

looking on Google maps it’s a 2700km drive

Three 10 hour days and I can be in Istanbul now. Motorway all the way.

 

[Chris]

If I was retired I would just fly to Cyprus for the winter and rent an apartment.

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[Snowbird]

So EU (Schengen) sunny countries are still the go to places for winter and where some people are wanting more than 90 days.

We skied in Bulgaria years ago over new year and no way could you motorhome there. Anyone heading there with windscreen wipers could do a good deal with the locals

You dont need to go to Bulgaria to Ski, you can ski in Spain or believe it or not Australia.

 

[jumartoo]

If I was retired I would just fly to Cyprus for the winter and rent an apartment.

90 lovely days

 

[LesW]

Three 10 hour days and I can be in Istanbul now. Motorway all the way.

Sounds like hell to me...

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[Chris]

90 lovely days

Why only 90? Is it limited to that? I thought it was outside Schengen.

 

[jumartoo]

You dont need to go to Bulgaria to Ski, you can ski in Spain or believe it or not Australia.

We did go there though!

The hotels had hardly any food and drink over new year. Our hotel was the best of them all.

We had a great trip though, none the less.

 

[jumartoo]

Why only 90? Is it limited to that? I thought it was outside Schengen.

Nope . Sorry

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