"Worker dog" pet food (1 Viewer)

[scotjimland]

Mylo, our JRT is now over two years old. ..hard to believe, seems only yesterday I was posting his picture as a pup..

anyhow, he's been fed Bakers dried puppy food since we bought him, and although he always eats it has never been very fussy about it.. sometimes leaving it and picking at it without any great enthusiasm..

Last week we decided to put him onto an adult food and if possible a bit less expensive.. so we had a look while in Makro and saw Breederpack, 15kg 'worker dog food ' on offer at £5.99 zero VAT

In oder to 'break in' the new food I gave him a bowl of about 50/50 Bakers and worker dog .. to my surprise, he picked out the new food and left the Bakers.. so I tried another half bowl of the new one and he scoffed it down.. he loves it .. never sen him eat so heartily ..

so a happy dog .. and less expensive to feed..

 

[imprint]

Dogs eat anything, Haggis.

They also love young children.

 

[Welsh girl]

Mmm I beg to differ.Susie will even turn her nose up at some treats.she is very fussy when it comes to food. Even when she's was pregnant and I bought her ceaser dog food. The best in my opinion.she wouldn't eat it.she hasn't done so bad now though reaching the age of 14.

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[chatter]

We use the breeder pack as well and the tinned breeder pack from makro

 

[scotjimland]

We use the breeder pack as well and the tinned breeder pack from makro

your spoiling him/her

never used tinned food, I can't stand the smell.. both before and after pooing

 

[olley]

Daughter was having trouble with one of her cats, vets advice was to switch to Iams, apparently a lot of pet food has additives to make the pets like them, and this can upset them, so maybe something to consider about cheaper foods?

Ian

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[the stig]

We were fortunate to come across this guy who had his own recipe made up, he and a vet friend of his put together everything they believed should be in a good balanced mix, and our two love the dried food, never had a problem they both maintain a good weight and have beautiful coats to boot. we get it delivered to the door too. full sack at a cost of £18 which will last approx a month for the pair of them. For anyone living close by to Grimsby I can obtain samples of the food.

Andrea

 

[scotjimland]

Daughter was having trouble with one of her cats, vets advice was to switch to Iams, apparently a lot of pet food has additives to make the pets like them, and this can upset them, so maybe something to consider about cheaper foods?

Ian

I hear what you say Ian, thanks, will certainly keep an eye on Mylo ..


from Breederpack

A premium quality complete food specially formulated for working dogs. This product requires no supplementation to keep your dog fit & healthy.
It can be fed straight from the bag or moistened with water or gravy.

Ingredients: Cereals, Meat & Animal Derivatives, Derivatives of Vegetable Origin, Vegetable Protein Extracts, Oils & Fats, Various Sugars, Minerals, Yeasts. Contains EEC permitted antioxidants, preservatives and colourants. Protein 22% : Oils & Fats 8% : Fibre 3.5%

 

[Loujess]

Pets At Home said that Bakers is the equivalent of MacDonalds. It has loads of fats and sugars or whatever to make it appeal to dogs but isn't the healthiest. Now I'm going over to Wainwrights which is PAH's own brand but it is very expensive. I can't go to Makro since they took my card back because I didn't use it enough. Hmmmm.

Ivy

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[Mags52]

Our vet recommended Chappie. We have a labradoodle and a miniature poodle and they are both fussy eaters and also can get upset stomachs really easily. The Chappie suits them both, although we do give them a little tinned food to moisten it. It's quite cheap too.
We used to use a more expensive food but Hamish the doodle used to literally groan when it was put down to him and then just pick at it.

 

[pappajohn]

Dogs eat anything, Haggis.

They also love young children.

they do, but i've yet to see one eat a whole child in one sitting.

 

[pappajohn]

all our four get Wagg beef or chicken dry food mixed with whatever tinned food we get.

Wagg at pets at home...£10.20 for 15kg.
if we cant get that its pets at home own brand...£9.99 for 15kg

why anyone would pay £40+ for 15kg of dogfood beats me

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[sue1959]

Our dogs eat anything but I just buy them the cheapest dry food + tesco tinned dog food. Theyget what ever is left from our meal, inc Broccoli, + either just the dry food or if there isn't many scraps a bit of tinned food.
They sit waiting for the peelings off the carrots etc and Jess follows you around if she see's you with broccoli in your hand.

 

[ehuplad]

Daughter was having trouble with one of her cats, vets advice was to switch to Iams, apparently a lot of pet food has additives to make the pets like them, and this can upset them, so maybe something to consider about cheaper foods?

Ian

Be careful with dried food for cats if it is a male.

Vets do not tell you until it happens but it is very common for male cats to get there water works bunged up by this food, the bladder then fills up until you spot it or it Kills the Cat. We know it happend to one of ours luckily we caught it in time but still has kidney damage. Vets do not tell you this until it is to late.

 

[rainbow chasers]

Arden Grange....nowhere near as much **** in it as the other foods! High protein foods make your dog go blind, and have problems with joints. Ok if they are WORKING but put them on low energy when not.

As Arden is full of mostly nice stuff, you use alot less of it!:thumb:

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[scotjimland]

Arden Grange....nowhere near as much **** in it as the other foods! [HI]High protein foods make your dog go blind, and have problems with joints.[/HI] Ok if they are WORKING but put them on low energy when not.

That's interesting .. since Arden Grange has a higher protein content ..

Arden Grange:
[HI]Protein 25%[/HI], Oil 14%, Fibre 3%, Ash 7%

Breeder pack Worker dog:
Protein 22% : Oils & Fats 8% : Fibre 3.5%

 

[Bailey58]

Be careful with dried food for cats if it is a male.

Vets do not tell you until it happens but it is very common for male cats to get there water works bunged up by this food, the bladder then fills up until you spot it or it Kills the Cat. We know it happend to one of ours luckily we caught it in time but still has kidney damage. Vets do not tell you this until it is to late.

Our Bootsie (avatar) loved a particular brand of dried food from Makro which he had in the morning with wet food at night. He ended up with a blocked bladder and kidney damage.

After a long session at the vet and £850 later we had to have him put down. :Sad:

 

[rainbow chasers]

That's interesting .. since Arden Grange has a higher protein content ..

Arden Grange:
[HI]Protein 25%[/HI], Oil 14%, Fibre 3%, Ash 7%

Breeder pack Worker dog:
Protein 22% : Oils & Fats 8% : Fibre 3.5%

Depends which one! They have a range, but we have the healthy one! Protein is some of them is surprisingly high (even i was surprised on one flavour!), but not as high as some other makes. It is about getting the balance right as much as anything - a high energy dog that is working will be perfectly fine - it is the pet type dogs that have a hard time.

One i will never buy is the Iams...not just for high protein, but for who makes it!

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[Terry]

That's interesting .. since Arden Grange has a higher protein content ..

Arden Grange:
[HI]Protein 25%[/HI], Oil 14%, Fibre 3%, Ash 7%

Breeder pack Worker dog:
Protein 22% : Oils & Fats 8% : Fibre 3.5%

That is a valid point Jim :thumb: We were told yrs ago when sack food was first introduced (by the vet) that to be classed as complete food it had to be at least 17% protein but 22/24 % was about right for most dogs :thumb: 27% was for greyhounds etc but too much protein was bad for the dog just the same as too little-we chose to feed ours on Omega 24% and have fed this to all the dogs we have had :thumb:Thinking of changing to Wagg (not sure on protein) as our dog eats it OK when he gets at daughter in laws dog food
terry

 

[Loujess]

You feed you daughter in law dog food!!!!!!!

Ivy

 

[Terry]

You feed you daughter in law dog food!!!!!!!

Ivy

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[laneside]

Spent years in the pet food trade and the label is often misleading

As I always said there is protein in my boots but it is of little nourishment to most animals.

They will put all sorts in to whack the label up so that it qualifies as a working dog food and therefore VAT free.

As far as increasing the palleatablility and fat or oil content this is usually done by the addition of chicken fat.

Just cos it says chicken and summat or beef and summat do not think it represents what human grade beef or chicken looks like it will often be the offal.

If it suits the dogs appetite and tummy buy it but watch for the amount of pickups you have to do as often the cheaper foods, especially ones with high cereal contents or none micronised cereals will increase the number of loo visits.

Whilst on this end if your pet gasses you regularly change its food and find one that does not.

As a safe guide leave the working dog food for the working dog and I doubt if many of your pets fall into the working dog category.

The other thing to avoid is soaking food with our type of gravy made from granuals etc or you will destroy its kidneys. if you must use genuine gravy or better still just put a drop of warm water onto the food

 

[buttons]

Bruno was supposedly a Ridgeback when we got him but take a look and make your own mind up what he is. He is an amazing guard dog but sometimes takes his duties too seriously.
We had problems with his ears last year that required regular visits to the vet. Not normally a problem but the basic rules are he must be accompanied by three adults and wearing 3 good muzzles to allow the vet to give him a knock out injection before his ears were inspected.
Bruno was found to be allergic to meat products so we put him on fish base food that has worked wonders a total transformation. We substitute the dry food with boiled fish and potatoes. His ears recovered overnight.
All we have to do now is convince him that I am above him in his pack. I’m not sure if he looks on me as a competitor or low down in his group but I am definitely not allowed in my front room if my ex or my partner are in there. I live by his rules and we all get on well together.:thumb:

 

[laneside]

Bruno was supposedly a Ridgeback when we got him but take a look and make your own mind up what he is. He is an amazing guard dog but sometimes takes his duties too seriously.
We had problems with his ears last year that required regular visits to the vet. Not normally a problem but the basic rules are he must be accompanied by three adults and wearing 3 good muzzles to allow the vet to give him a knock out injection before his ears were inspected.
Bruno was found to be allergic to meat products so we put him on fish base food that has worked wonders a total transformation. We substitute the dry food with boiled fish and potatoes. His ears recovered overnight.
All we have to do now is convince him that I am above him in his pack. I’m not sure if he looks on me as a competitor or low down in his group but I am definitely not allowed in my front room if my ex or my partner are in there. I live by his rules and we all get on well together.:thumb:

Sorry I forgot to mention that many dogs and especially wire haired types are often allergic or intollerant to the gluten found in many dog foods, the solution , as you have found, is to try salmon and potato, or some of the chicken and rice types of food.

With wired haired breeds this allergy often shows as a very itchy skin.

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[bazfergy]

your spoiling him/her

never used tinned food, I can't stand the smell.. both before and after pooing

you'd really hate the smell of my bullmastiff an shepharx after their tripe then

 

[definity0]

All of the foods listed in this thread, except for arden grange, are absolutely terrible IMO, I wouldnt feed them to a stray I dragged in off the street.

If you want a dog that is healthy long term then do not feed anything containing wheat, maize, (or corn as it may be called) or even worse generic sounding ingredients like "cereals" or "meat products" because that could literally be anything the feed companies have to hand. Also never ever feed anything with artificial colourants or preservatives.

The best foods available right now are Barking heads, Lily's kitchern, collards, and james wellbeloved (the lamb and vegetable variety is the best). I have also fed Burns in the past but found it made some dogs quite constipated.

Foods like Bakers complete, Wagg, Omega, pedigree chum, winalot, etc should be banned - you might as well feed your dog rat poison. The foods the vets recommend they do so because they are paid to sell it, Hills, royal canin and iams are only just one step up from the real barrel scrapings mentioned above and still IMO not fit to be fed if you care anything at all about your dog. Chappie is full of fat and sugar and again is pretty bad for the dog. It really doesnt matter if your dog LIKES their food as long as they eat enough to maintain a healthy weight. With most dogs it is a bonus if they are not overly fussed about their food because it prevents overeating.

A good food is essential to your dog's health and welfare, cheap food are associated with obesity, diabetes, liver failure, kidney failure, skin problems, bowel problems (and in some cases bowel cancers) flatulence and even hyperactivity and aggression. (particularly bakers compelte and pedigree chum for the last two). A good food may seem more expensive but it will save you a fortune in vets bills and could extend your dog's life by up to two years. basically if you can buy it in the supermarket dont ever feed it - supermarkets sell cheap rubbish that will slowly kill your dog. Go to a specialist pet feed shop and look at labels, make sure the first ingredient is a named meat product and any filler is either rice or potato and the things I mentioned earlier are not present anywhere on the label.

 

[Geo]

you'd really hate the smell of my bullmastiff an shepharx after their tripe then

Mmmmmmmmmm proper food.
The green stuff I assume:thumb:
My Shepard Zen and Collie Jay went wild for it,
They wanted to sleep in the freezer with it

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[rainbow chasers]

Try and alternate different flavours, to give him a little choice - but not too much chicken! (bit rich for some dogs, they start scratching and chewing their feet!)

 

[scotjimland]

All of the foods listed in this thread, except for arden grange, are absolutely terrible IMO, I wouldnt feed them to a stray I dragged in off the street.

If you want a dog that is healthy long term then do not feed anything containing wheat, maize, (or corn as it may be called) or even worse generic sounding ingredients like "cereals" or "meat products" because that could literally be anything the feed companies have to hand. Also never ever feed anything with artificial colourants or preservatives.

The best foods available right now are Barking heads, Lily's kitchern, collards, and james wellbeloved (the lamb and vegetable variety is the best). I have also fed Burns in the past but found it made some dogs quite constipated.

Foods like Bakers complete, Wagg, Omega, pedigree chum, winalot, etc should be banned - you might as well feed your dog rat poison. The foods the vets recommend they do so because they are paid to sell it, Hills, royal canin and iams are only just one step up from the real barrel scrapings mentioned above and still IMO not fit to be fed if you care anything at all about your dog. Chappie is full of fat and sugar and again is pretty bad for the dog. It really doesnt matter if your dog LIKES their food as long as they eat enough to maintain a healthy weight. With most dogs it is a bonus if they are not overly fussed about their food because it prevents overeating.

A good food is essential to your dog's health and welfare, cheap food are associated with obesity, diabetes, liver failure, kidney failure, skin problems, bowel problems (and in some cases bowel cancers) flatulence and even hyperactivity and aggression. (particularly bakers compelte and pedigree chum for the last two). A good food may seem more expensive but it will save you a fortune in vets bills and could extend your dog's life by up to two years. basically if you can buy it in the supermarket dont ever feed it - supermarkets sell cheap rubbish that will slowly kill your dog. Go to a specialist pet feed shop and look at labels, make sure the first ingredient is a named meat product and any filler is either rice or potato and the things I mentioned earlier are not present anywhere on the label.

Well, I read all you say and take note.. I only want to feed my dogs what is best for them.. not my wallet .. but can you substantiate what you say, are there any authoritative reports .. and if not how do you come to these conclusions ?

thanks

 

[Janine]

I feed my two cockers on Burns dog food.

It's expensive, but was designed by a vet and doesn't have any nasties in it. It's also good for dogs with skin problems caused by the additives in some dog foods. (EU antioxidants are the culprit, if I remember correctly)

http://burnspet.co.uk/

The worst one I came across was Eukanuba. Made the little 'un poorly for a week.

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