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My cheapo phone is still faster, more reliable and much more user friendly though ?
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It is the increased IOPS that will make a difference for me. Starting up virtual machines for dev work and compiling software makes it a no brainer. If I was just playing games I wouldn't replace existing SSD's with NVMe but would buy when upgrading to larger storage for example/I doubt you will see that much difference between a good SSD and an NVMe in speed terms. The computer could no doubt measure it, but a human. General data storage HDD's are fine, but the SSD is more energy efficient.
AMD GPU's are too power hungry and run hot in comparison to NVidia in the benchmarks I have seen. Also for Linux if you are happy with binary blobs then NVidia does better desktop support for complex setups such as looking glass and virtualised screens. But if it is just for desktop use and linux games then AMD open source driver may be better.You indicate primary use of the computer is work, with a little gaming. AMD, provided you get balanced RAM seems the current way to go on bang for buck, if you have need for multiple threads, popular with those who do a lot of encoding of video and stuff. Most games have yet to really use muti threading so for those the core speed of the CPU is better.
Yup, I just found out about the half height cards costing more... Plenty of space in my 3U rackmount case. It is full size EATX motherboard and only one PCIe card plugged in. I was moving from a single fan GTX 750Ti to a GTX 1660 Super single fan. The length is the same on both cards barely longer than the PCIe slot. However the 1660 is about an inch taller The 750Ti didn't go above the height of the bracket, the 1660 does unfortunately.If you don't need ray tracing on the GPU then some of the AMD based GPUs may be better value than those of the green tea, just watch the power consumption, and thus heat. Half height GPU cards are available, but as you note may limit choice and cost a tad more. Most GPUs need some space just so they can be adequately cooled by fans.
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I have been using rack mount cases for 20+ yearsAh a rackmount case. As these are usually server they wouldn't normally need space for much of a GPU (unless quite specialist) I'd be wary about cooling needs even for your CPU, have you allowed enough space for the heatsink / fan assembly, and what about noise if it has to work a lot harder than your earlier setup?
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Yip, a right moment!Damnit! Display port cable arrived today and HDMI to VGA adapter. So thought I would put the GFX card in and see what it was like.
It won't fit. Too tall for my 3U server case. The card sits proud of the top of the L bracket so I can't get the lid back on.
Looked at alternatives and the only one that will fit is £100 more... I checked the length but didn't think the height would be a problem DOH!!!
No place to put a normal case in my van... So back to the drawing board I think.
Oh my, maybe a Dremel would helpYip, a right moment!
Nearly did the same a few years back with a cpu cooler!
Anyway, here's your optimum tech solution. Hacksaw a slot out the side of the case!!!!!
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Think you're being a wee bitty silly there! An old hacksaw blade is cheaper!Oh my, maybe a Dremel would help
Probably but my Dremel doesn't get out much so any excuse.....Think you're being a wee bitty silly there! An old hacksaw blade is cheaper!
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Humble Bundle did a great set of computer books a while back included some on AI and developing for the Raspberry Pi.Regarding heat there are lots of forums commenting on how hot the raspberry pi 4 can get so I added thermal pads, a heat sink which has micro fans which are silent. There are reports of this little beast getting up to 90 odd degrees. The whole unit looks like a heat sink now ? with t being 26 c in the office the unit at idle was 37-38 c (kept flicking between the two) I ran a CPUBurn test and the highest temp with the CPU running at 100% for 30 mins was 60 c so I don't think I will be having issues that some of the raspberry forums have mentioned.
I have added an image of my old 90's knowledge based systems book with I will use as reference when playing again with Neural net.
A 2Gb Raspberry is £34 and the 4Gb is £54 which is beer money for what some may think is a toy computer yet allows for some serious coding and or a super cheap PC (Rasbian NOOBS comes with a complete office suite web browser VNC) or media player.
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Cutting an slot in the side of the case wouldn't help. It is height that is the issue.
Leaving the lid off would be an option, however I could not then get the case into the custom built shelf in the cabinet made for it.
The life of a fulltimer is never simple
No. Although there is a lot of space over all the PCIe slots (it is an EATX motherboard) there is no mounting options and the PSU would be in the way for sideways mounting. I did consider a PCIe cable initially.Would a riser card or cable work?
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Hope the next steps go wellWell that didn't go well...
Built new computer moved hard drives across.
Nothing comes on screen. After a lot of faffing realised that the new monitor cable is a DP to HDMI and doesn't work. Dug out an old HDMI to HDMI cable and plugged this in and up and running on Linux.
Uninstalled GTX750TI drivers, installed GTX 1660 drivers and everything works Total time taken 5 mins max.
Reboot into windows 7 to see how World of Warcraft (wow) run. Gets to the login prompt and keyboard and mouse don't work.
Turns out win 7 doesn't support USB 3.... There is no way to copy the driver files across without doing a re-install.
So I bit the bullet and tried to download windows 10 from microsoft. Except I couldn't their website was down. Eventually came back up and downloaded it.
Burned it to a USB drive and set about installing.
Windows 10 install is a frustrating experience. 4 reboots!!!! No info about what it was doing just a circle of dots going around. Finally it says it is done then it demands you give them a microsoft login. Skype, office etc. or create one. I just want to get into my computer. Luckily had a skype account, but it wanted my password. I use lastpass for this... Grrr. Remember my phone has lastpass installed so go into that and get password. Then it asks me loads of snoopy questions. Do you want me to track you, do you want adverts personalised? WTF!!! Adverts in an OS, are you kidding me? Loads of other stuff...
Finally got there. Installed firefox initially then realised I couldn't copy my backup files back across because Windows doesn't support ext4 filing system. My fault. Click on the start menu button. Nothing happens. Hit the windows key, nothing happens. How the hell do you do anything on this? CTRL ALT DEL allows me to log out and access the power off button.
Not been a great experience so far. Although I have to say the fact it found and installed my new graphics card drivers and set them up was slick.
Now I am going to have to spend the next 1,2 or 3 hours figuring out how to get rid of the crappy menu and put a bog standard one it's place. How to stop windows being so snoopy, and how to get rid of adverts etc. Think I may be busy on my firewall configuration to block MS snoopy crap.
Not looking forward to this
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Karl, did you run Windows 7 updates?Reboot into windows 7 to see how World of Warcraft (wow) run. Gets to the login prompt and keyboard and mouse don't work.
Turns out win 7 doesn't support USB 3.... There is no way to copy the driver files across without doing a re-install.
I had my bod install 4x USB3 on my ancient Win7 box - as far as I can tell they're working... transfer rates seem to be much faster than the original USB2Turns out win 7 doesn't support USB 3
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They need cleaning with an airline here about every 4-6 weeks it is that dusty. 3case fans as standard for cooling due to the heat doesn't help with the problem.I've just had to repair my office desktop computer.
I couldn't decide which bit was playing up until I took the power supply out to clean it. You could not see a single component for the all the crap that was in there, it was jammed.
If you have windows 7 already working on the platform then upgrading to 10 works. However, I just swapped the hard disk across. Windows 7 does not support USB3 on AM4 platforms at all natively. You need to install the drivers. To install the drivers you need the keyboard to work so you can login catch 22. Believe me I spent enough time looking into it. Even considered slipstreaming the drivers onto an install disk. But Windows 7 support has ended and I was really pushing it keeping it going like this.Karl, did you run Windows 7 updates?
USB 3 support was included in one of the service packs \ updates.
I've just booted one of my dual boot desktops (7 + 10 both Pro) and in 7 Device Manager it's showing both USB 3 controllers on the mobo (ASMedia and VIA). It's a Gigabyte AM3+ board from around 2015 with it's original BIOS (albeit there's an update for it).
From memory, you may need to tweak the BIOS to get 7 to recognise USB 3.
If you're going to stick with 10 I think a number of the pop-ups \ ads can be turned off in Settings \ Personalise \ ......
If your system already has USB2 ports then that is not an issue. You can use the keyboard plugged into your USB 2 port to login and install the USB3 driversI had my bod install 4x USB3 on my ancient Win7 box - as far as I can tell they're working... transfer rates seem to be much faster than the original USB2
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Tell the truth you had great fun watching the dots going around!But yeah, Thanks for reminding me why I hate Windows/Microsoft. I could never use this as my daily work system.
They need cleaning with an airline here about every 4-6 weeks it is that dusty. 3case fans as standard for cooling due to the heat doesn't help with the problem.
Hang about for a week or two and a few more of them will go bust and can be picked up for a song!...... - the airline sounds a good ides
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Was the initial CPU cooler the Wraith that came with the 3600? Just wondering if I should think about an upgrade for it?The fan noise from the AMD cooler was doing my head in. So today replaced it with a Noctua L9x65 cooler/fan.
Can't hear it now
However, I can now hear the case fan. So I will when I can be arsed pull one of the 120mm Noctua fans out of the server case and put them in the new one. At low revs these are practically silent.
Yes, it was the one that came with it. Quite the noisy little bugger it was.Was the initial CPU cooler the Wraith that came with the 3600? Just wondering if I should think about an upgrade for it?
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