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[Happy1]

Connecting via bbq is the low pressure side of system, connecting a bottle direct here will result in a loud bang!!
Even with a regulator on bottle why would you not use the filler and the van regulator with the local connection hose that’s designed for the job?

Can you get a filter from a Repsol garage for instance?

Cheers

not sure, mine unhelpfully came from the gasit website they may deliver to you!

 

[mfw]

Connecting via bbq is the low pressure side of system, connecting a bottle direct here will result in a loud bang!!
Even with a regulator on bottle why would you not use the filler and the van regulator with the local connection hose that’s designed for the job?


not sure, mine unhelpfully came from the gasit website they may deliver to you!

Everyone to their own but bottle connected to regulator then to bbq outside point seems the safest way to do it and just isolate your regulator - your way relies on hose connected to bottle then to fill point if it fails you will lose a lot of gas very quickly either way could fail but it is individual choice in the end

 

[Happy1]

Agree each to their own but same difference, bottle to hose to filler or bottle to hose to bbq point? Which bits do you see failing?

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[mfw]

Agree each to their own but same difference, bottle to hose to filler or bottle to hose to bbq point? Which bits do you see failing?

None but not sure what adaptors you would need your way for different types of bottle connections - my way all it costs is a regulator wherever you go and it would be easily available in country you are in

 

[EssexBoy]

Still sounds a massive pfaff just to avoid one drive to a local petrol garage...

 

[Basildog]

None but not sure what adaptors you would need your way for different types of bottle connections - my way all it costs is a regulator wherever you go and it would be easily available in country you are in

Then there is the little point that the bbq point manufacturers all state that they are not suitable for back feeding a supply into your gas system so good luck with your insurance !
Or you use the equipment sold and recommended by Gaslow or Gasit

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[mfw]

Then there is the little point that the bbq point manufacturers all state that they are not suitable for back feeding a supply into your gas system so good luck with your insurance !
Or you use the equipment sold and recommended by Gaslow or Gasit

Ok you have made a statement can you attatch the manafacturers statement that says you cant use the BBQ point - some regulators abroad run different pressure so you have to watch that - never used foreign bottle but they all seem to have different connectors - so your statement that the hose fits all eu bottles are you certain it does and no-one is going to get caught out - it states 21.8 fitting so will it work on all eu cylinders

 

[AMK]

When I had my refillable bottles fitted, I was told it was ok to use the BBQ point.

This was a very well known installer near Thirsk.

 

[Basildog]

Truma say
The external gas socket is only suitable for remov- ing gas, not for feeding gas into the gas system.
The adapters for the reserve cylinder hose are shown on the original Gaslow page but here it is again

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[mfw]

Truma say
The external gas socket is only suitable for remov- ing gas, not for feeding gas into the gas system.
The adapters for the reserve cylinder hose are shown on the original Gaslow page but here it is again

You make statements on gas safety and you have said on here that you use an adaptor to fill exchange bottles ie calor or similar which is a safety issue - you preach one thing when it suits you - not saying it cant be done if you know cylinder capacity and how much you can safely put in but for anyone to just do it is asking for trouble

 

[Basildog]

You make statements on gas safety and you have said on here that you use an adaptor to fill exchange bottles ie calor or similar which is a safety issue - you preach one thing when it suits you - not saying it cant be done if you know cylinder capacity and how much you can safely put in but for anyone to just do it is asking for trouble

Because I know the rules doesn’t mean I actually have to follow them
What I don’t do is tell other people to do as I do I merely point out the options.
I still believe that using an adapter to fill a Calor type bottle is safer than many of the diy installations of refillable cylinders which are not normally tested before filling.

 

[Basildog]

When I had my refillable bottles fitted, I was told it was ok to use the BBQ point.

This was a very well known installer near Thirsk.

It’s probably absolutely fine in reality but it’s not apparently recommended by the manufacturers so it’s that same old thing that what if something goes wrong.

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[gus-lopez]

Connecting via bbq is the low pressure side of system, connecting a bottle direct here will result in a loud bang!!

Not if a regulator is used. the correct quick fit connector into the barbecue point is far easier than having to screw/unscrew a threaded connector + the possibility of it leaking.

Even with a regulator on bottle why would you not use the filler and the van regulator with the local connection hose that’s designed for the job?

As first reply far easier. Why would you use a regulator on the bottle & fill through the filler & so have 2 regulators in the system ? Just means more restriction on the flow & capacity to use everything at once. I'm off anyway ,all too complicated for me. Like having a drum of diesel to syphon in to tank as too lazy too move.

 

[pappajohn]

Bit late coming into this but here's my tuppence worth....
I would much rather connect from a regulated bottle to a BBQ point at 30mb than from an unregulated bottle to a fixed fill point at full bottle pressure... Approx 7.5 BAR @ 70°F

 

[Happy1]

As first reply far easier. Why would you use a regulator on the bottle & fill through the filler & so have 2 regulators in the system ? Just means more restriction on the flow & capacity to use everything at once. I'm off anyway ,all too complicated for me. Like having a drum of diesel to syphon in to tank as too lazy too move.[/QUOTE]

Never mentioned two regulators, just using the filler to fill, and the bbq point to bbq, as I said each to their own, this from gaslow below

The Gaslow Reserve Cylinder Connection Hose enables the connection of a reserve cylinder to the Gaslow filler point.

Perfect if you are on site and don't want to move your caravan to find a filling station.
The hose screws into the internal thread on the Gaslow Fill Kit.
The other end of the hose connects directly to any 21.8LH cylinders or our range of Gaslow 21.8LH Adapters, so you can connect to all European cylinders.
The gas will be drawn from the reserve cylinder, through one of the refillable cylinders to the regulator.
Note that it will not transfer liquid gas into the refillable cylinder, so gas from this cylinder will only be used if the refillable is empty.

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[JonP]

Sorry got no time for rude people like you.

Boys - Handbags at 10

 

[Mike800966]

To go back to the original question there is a BP garage just east of Lagos that does autogas, or it was still there 12 months ago. Next nearest was in Portimao. There is also a very helpful gas refiller and engineer just off the N125 before the turning to Loule
I know a lot of people do feed gas back via a bbq point and with common sense it should be ok ( via a reg of course) but I would much rather refill the tank, thats what its for. In UK its vat- able as road fuel from a garage but at a lower rate from non garage sources.
Mike

 

[tankintugger]

Mine is set up with a repsol bottle adapter available from gaslow just as you have said and works perfectly. Hope you find a supplier locally

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[L' Hobo]

Ask the locals when you arrive at Turiscampo. When I was there I found that reception or the other Brits that were staying, there's always a number that have been doing it for a number of years, are both helpful and knowledgeable.
Have a happy stay, I did!

 

[dpsuk999]

Well an update to this thread, thanks to a fellow funster who told me where to go to, I obtained a Portuguese/Spanish adapter which clips onto the bottle (unregulated) and simply connects to my fill point, happy days

 

[dpsuk999]

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