Panel van conversion on ebay .. opinions please. (1 Viewer)

scotjimland

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OK guys and gals .. what do you think of this camper .. ?

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Good/bad base vehicle ?

Conversion.. ? I've never heard of them nor has Google.

Looks a well done job, so what is it's true value ?

If you were looking for a compact PVC would this tick all the boxes ?

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jim. looks like its nicely fitted. but built on wrong wt chassis . prefer fixed bed at rear ,good storage underneath . if i was looking it would have to be something like the devon sahara on the old ldv /master but on an iveco or renault mascot. r.w.d. a must. mid length iveco makes a good base as the v.long one is too long.
bet that one cost 6-7grand for the conversion. be interesting to see what it makes.
cheers alan.
 

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Jim

Looks nicely fitted out. Is it diesel or petrol? As it only has a 2 litre engine. Maybe a bit underpowered.

High mileage if it is petrol model.

Lesley

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my concerns would be
1) the distance you are from the builders should anything go wrong.
2)being an unknown quantilty you have no idea what lies behind the panels.(quality of insulation winterising etc).
3)You are no longer a young man Jim and making up a bed every day will soon knacker your back.
4)Could you really make do with such a huge reductiuon in space?
other than that it looks like a nice van.
 
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jim. looks like its nicely fitted. but built on wrong wt chassis . prefer fixed bed at rear ,good storage underneath . if i was looking it would have to be something like the devon sahara on the old ldv /master but on an iveco or renault mascot. r.w.d. a must. mid length iveco makes a good base as the v.long one is too long.
bet that one cost 6-7grand for the conversion. be interesting to see what it makes.
cheers alan.

Thanks Alan , I knew I could rely on you for an honest opinion ..I need a van that I can use daily , and can park in an ( almost ) standard parking bay ..


Jim

Looks nicely fitted out. Is it diesel or petrol? As it only has a 2 litre engine. Maybe a bit underpowered.

High mileage if it is petrol model.

Lesley

Hi Lesley , it's diesel .. so do you think it would be under powered ?

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my concerns would be
1) the distance you are from the builders should anything go wrong.
2)being an unknown quantilty you have no idea what lies behind the panels.(quality of insulation winterising etc).
3)You are no longer a young man Jim and making up a bed every day will soon knacker your back.
4)Could you really make do with such a huge reductiuon in space?
other than that it looks like a nice van.

Hi Roger

1. very true :Sad:
2. also true
3. but I have a young wife who does all that :roflmto: (knackers my back that is ) :winky:
4. Needs must I'm afraid

cheers jim

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jim ,thats why i used iveco or the mascot. both just normal working vans, not really any bigger than you are looking at. also if you do it your self you can be a bit more stealth. nod nod. mascot not so common here but used alot on the continent. they are here though as vans.
 

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Looks quite a nice conversion, but had a 2L Boxer same base but peugeot but found it a bit under powered for me.


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Hi Jim

I don't know an awful lot really but yes, I do thnk it may be underpowered. My sister had a 2 litre diesel motorhome, she practically had to carry it up hills. It also overheated on many occasions. We went on holiday together and mine was much more fuel efficient than hers was and mine is a 2.8jtd and I used a lot less fuel than her 2 litre one. She got rid of it as soon as we got back.

I may be wrong though and I am sure there are plenty of people on here very happy with a 2 litre diesel engine.

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jim google renault mascott vans there is one at specialist cars in york. have a google let us know your views.
 

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Biggest problem IMHO is the badge on the front= terrible reliability!
Cheers, Dave:thumb:
 

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Hi Jim the base vehicle is in the 3 k region and the conversion materials around 6.5k :winky: Personally I do not like the carpeting on the walls on a van, it darkens them for me.
It would take 3 to 4 weeks for a couple of people to make / convert, so say 4 k wages giving a total of 13.5 / 14k in total.Anything you can save on that price is a bonus or eating into a small profit for the converter.The units look nicely made:thumb: only thing I can perhaps fault is the bed make up- lots of cushions :ROFLMAO: It says all lined insulated ,you would have to enquire about that as some think the carpeting as insulation :Eeek:
Again I think the 2.0 under powered but that needs trying up a nice hill to see what you think :ROFLMAO:
Hope this insight helps with your decision
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Looks a nice van but in my book the mileage is far too high, commercial van thats been well used and any potential resale afterwards would be the same problem.

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jim google renault mascott vans there is one at specialist cars in york. have a google let us know your views.

Hi Alan ,

just had a look, big payload and good volume .. rear wheel drive, double rear wheel drive ideal for a home conversion.. :thumb:

very rare in this country .. but maybe too big as an everyday van ..?

I've just started looking and in no rush..

cheers

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jim think you will find they are the same width as a master,possibly no wider than the citroen.i looked at them when i built the mitzy but only as chassis cab.did see several abroad and there are several here .ambulances etc.i like the weight to size .the 5.5 is ideal.there is alot a bumph on the webb about them.built on a proper chassis. keep looking i only give honest opinions .gets me into trouble as well. cheers alan.
 

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Jim,

It looks smart and suits me for internal colours and method of construction: similar to my Renault Master Spectra.

There are several professional conversions on similar panel vans: Fiat / Peugeot / Citroen. all much the same but actually Citroen rarely used. As far as I know these usually have a 2.2 or 2.3 litre engine depending on 'Make', not actually a 2 litre. I can't see where it says it is a 2 litre: it say '2cc' which is obviously an error.

The gross weight at 3.300 is also not unusual ( Trigano Tribute for instance ) although 3.500 may be more desirable. Depends how many people you are and what junk you intend to carry:Smile:

I like the washroom with fixed basin: I *hate* 'tip up sinks' so often fitted to even the £50,000 panel van conversions. Can't see anywhere to put the soap / shampoo though.

The kitchen looks quite good but I would prefer a little more work space: not often found though on even the largest motorhomes:Sad: I like the fact the it has an 'end wall' piece to shield the lounge seats from cooking soil. ( often not found even on the most expensive conversions ) That shows that the builder has thought about things, unless it was done just for style:Smile: A rather narrow 'corridor' though twixt kitchen and washroom.

I agree that the bed make up looks fiddly, especially to make the double. It's ok having a huge bed but you need a huge duvet too and you need to have room to keep that with easy access. I assume that the table is needed to make the bed, although that isn't certain.

It looks from the pictures that the rear doors need to be opened to access the table top. If that is so, I definitely don't like that. The access to the toilet cassette also needs the doors opened: at least it means that there isn't a hole cut in the side of the van panel to fit the cassette access door.

Everything is a compromise in a panel van conversion though.

The mileage is very high: my 1992 Renault has only clocked 111,000, but it depends on exactly how that mileage was achieved. Was it a privately owned. well looked after van, or a thrashed 'white van man' van?

Never heard of the conversion name so presumably a 'one off' by the builder, built to sell. A business, or private 'self builder'?

Can't help with the value, sorry, but looks quite good for ten grand!:roflmto:

Oh, we used Renault for six years and loved it. Now have Autocruise and love the extra room and comfort but don't actually have more *fun*.:roflmto:

Harvey
 

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Jim

I agree with Peter regards the high mileage. Despite being diesel it's averaged 23000 miles a year....most privately owned cars don't knock up that much!

Starting his bid price at £10k this guy will be lucky to get any bidders other than 'mates' sticking in bids to generate interest. People are on eBay looking for bargains.

Personally I would look very seriously at a Transit Panel van, i.e. Duetto or similar. They will easily tick your boxes regards parking and everyday use. Now for the big plus......Ford Transits are 'common as muck' which means parts availability anywhere, and when I say anywhere I mean literally that. Throughout the UK and virtually any country you care to think of in Europe, you will easily locate a Ford Main Agent and Ford spares. Plus the parts are not crazily expensive either.

Having a breakdown in some obscure european country is no problem.....with a Ford Transit base vehicle.
With a Citroen, sure you would be fine ok in France, but what about the likes of Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Lithuania, Russia etc?

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what about the likes of Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Lithuania, Russia etc?
Not so sure Ford are that well represented in the less well developed countries! and I would not like to look for any western spares in Russia.
 

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Not so sure Ford are that well represented in the less well developed countries! and I would not like to look for any western spares in Russia.
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"Transit is twice recognized as "The Van of the Year" in Ukraine
Ford Transit won in "The Best Van 2002 in Ukraine" nomination."

Not travelled in Russia but I can vouch for many Transits around Ukraine as neighbouring Poland is littered with Transits.
A Transit breaker in my locality does business with a couple of Polish guys who come over regularly to the UK with van and huge trailer, buy whatever they can, cart it all back to Poland, refurbish and then sell.

Ford Transit spares can be found almost anywhere on planet earth.

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hello jim just coverted a LDV maxus 56 reg has 2.5 vm deisel ? italian made engine in many good vans and cars and very powerfull and good on fuel ? keith::bigsmile:
 
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looks a bargain in my view but depends on what price it is going to hit , as compared to our old toyota 2.5 hiace van which sold for more money than that within 3 days of going up for sale it is a lot newer , better spec and a more modern vehicle , panel vans do fetch good money and are very popular as you find when trying to buy a good one , as for the bed the toyota possibly had the most comfortable bed we have ever slept on and took around 5 minutes to make from the seats and in a panel van you do not have the room for a fixed bed and seating so in my view the better option , we opted away from the fixed bed in bessacarr as wanted more usable room and the large rear bathroom so everyone to their own needs :thumb:
 

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Everytime I click the link you provided it won't allow me into Ebay, there is a Safety Notice, why I don't know. the same thing happens when I tried to look at the link for your RV. Does anyone know the answer? If you could give me the Ebay item number then I will try that.

thanks

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Thanks Terry, just tried the number and again the following came up:

"Unfortunately, access to this particular item has been blocked due to legal restrictions in some countries. We are blocking your viewing in an effort to prevent restricted items from being displayed. Regrettably, in some cases, we may prevent users from accessing items that are not within the scope of said restrictions because of limitations of existing technology. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause, and we hope you may find other items of interest on eBay."

Don't know why this is happening now, it has never done it before.
 

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Thanks for all the advice.. :thumb:

but SWMBO has changed her mind .. doesn't want a panel van.. :Doh:

the search goes on .. :RollEyes:

jim
So Jim what does SWMBO want that can be used as an everyday vehicle as well ?
I can see you joining me in a ambulance :ROFLMAO: 19 ft long (overhaul) and 6 ft 6 ins wide in the rear (wider than any PVs) and still easy to park in most places :thumb:::bigsmile:
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