What have you seen at NEC that was bad (1 Viewer)

[Portland]

The boss and me have ploughed around the show today and we both agree the upholstery on many vans was very poor many seats had no shape and the living area's cramped particularly in continental makes. Frankia took the prise for the worst. And whilst I hate to admit it Autotrail seemed the best buy. I will now wait for the flack to fly.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

I much prefer the upholstery in some British vans compared with the continentals.......our Pilote compared to the previous Autosleeper a case in point. So impressed by the quality that we are seriously considering getting the Pilote recovered and re-cushioned in part

 

[TheDogMan]

The boss and me have ploughed around the show today and we both agree the upholstery on many vans was very poor many seats had no shape and the living area's cramped particularly in continental makes. Frankia took the prise for the worst. And whilst I hate to admit it Autotrail seemed the best buy. I will now wait for the flack to fly.

Autotrails are a great designed van if only they learnt how to use sealant and designed them to withstand the UK weather, they really must be nuts especially with the warrenty claims they must have

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[PP Bear]

Love my Autotrail, had it 6 years now and it's been brilliant. Sure there were niggles, the odd screw that someone couldn't quite put in straight, but it's been awesome and I wouldn't be without it.

Think all motorhome makes have Monday morning models. Think the problem with most makes, is the seemingly lack of any kind of stage inspection at key and vital points, or that's my opinion, as I'm sure if a qualified fitter did do an inspection then lots of niggles would be put right at the point of manufacture.

 

[Forestboy]

The boss and me have ploughed around the show today and we both agree the upholstery on many vans was very poor many seats had no shape and the living area's cramped particularly in continental makes. Frankia took the prise for the worst. And whilst I hate to admit it Autotrail seemed the best buy. I will now wait for the flack to fly.

Haven't gone to the show but have to agree on the living areas in nearly all modern vans are far too cramped I just don't get it. Looked at a new Hymer recently same problem and a Concorde same problem bloody silly little L shaped lounge with a huge table in a 8 metre van really!!. By the way both vans were approx £100k
Our van is 14 years old now and so far superior to most modern builds I can't see us ever changing.

 

[BobtheBass]

All the Trigano Group vehicles (Autotrail excluded as I have never looked inside one) seem to have pants upholstery. One of our esteemed monthlies described it as "low rent" and I totally agree. I have had 2 Chaussons and they both had cheap and nasty seating with shockingly poor covers, really letting down the rest of the good quality construction. Benimars and Roller Teams look like their seats and covers have come from a Pound shop and some other makes also seem to spoil their ships for a h'aporth of tar. Conversely I did sit on some luxurious bum perches today!

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[DuxDeluxe]

Will probably see a bad thing tomorrow at the NEC. The reaction depends on if he sees me first, though.........

 

[GJH]

Will probably see a bad thing tomorrow at the NEC. The reaction depends on if he sees me first, though.........

You'll have to avoid mirrors then

 

[DuxDeluxe]

You'll have to avoid mirrors then

No reflection if I look in a mirror........ and I'm allergic to sunlight

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[Ksagic]

Off to see them all on Sunday...will drop a note if there is something that really looks the part..

 

[Spidey]

Both our Chausson and Hymer seating fabrics are great. I think it depends on the fabric you choose. I must admit looking at some high end vans last year at the show the fabric was not great. You would think they would choose a really goid example to show.

 

[Portland]

I agree with you.m
While many had thin cheap seats and the leather is beige. Beige, Beige! The quality of workmanship was rubbish! Loose sagging (just like me in the morning).

Haven't gone to the show but have to agree on the living areas in nearly all modern vans are far too cramped I just don't get it. Looked at a new Hymer recently same problem and a Concorde same problem bloody silly little L shaped lounge with a huge table in a 8 metre van really!!. By the way both vans were approx £100k
Our van is 14 years old now and so far superior to most modern builds I can't see us ever changing.

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[zac]

Autotrails are a great designed van if only they learnt how to use sealant and designed them to withstand the UK weather, they really must be nuts especially with the warrenty claims they must have

Could not agree more

 

[Khizzie]

You'll have to avoid mirrors then

That was quick .thanks for making me laugh so early in the day . Roy

 

[Theonlysue]

was very impressed with this 6m laika.
Well worth a look in.

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[Jim]

Modern German vans where the entire living space is centred around a fancy swivelling table, everyone touching knees behind the passenger seat. Then the rest of the interior made so narrow only one person can move around at one time. Then have the temerity to charge over £100k. Nice big garage though They can keep em.

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[Adbt]

We thought the level of the finish in the AutoTrails was quite frankly appalling .

 

[BONZO]

We have just had our camper redone and are very happy with the survis we got at a very good price no saggy ness only me lol

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[Stealaway]

How much? I would like to do ours. Who did it?

 

[Gaston aires]

Am I the only one bored with "wood grain" finish. We chose the Titan silver grey furniture just for a change. How radical is that ?
Phil

 

[two]

The best way to judge upholstery is to look at second hand models after 5 years. Many are starting to look rather 'sad'.
Big difference between Britain and the Continent is the weather. Continentals spend most of their time outside, because they can. We spend much more time inside, because we have to, so like more living space. Brit vans also have more mains appliances because there's less opportunity to wild camp here and campsites offer 16A.

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[Larrynwin]

Lounging space is what convinced us to buy our Hymer B544 earlier this year , two long sofas and front swivels in the a class cab , could seat eight and gives us lots of space to put our feet up.
This model I believe is no longer produced.

 

[BONZO]

REGAL there is a flyer in my pics if u look that tells u who and were they are .
£2300. That's with cushions n curtains n head bound . AND NEW FORM They do it in one day and u can stay with EHU .

 

[Portland]

View attachment 128683 View attachment 128680 View attachment 128681 View attachment 128682 View attachment 128680 We have just had our camper redone and are very happy with the survis we got at a very good price no saggy ness only me lol

I like the looks of this! Quality job! We had ours reupholstered at Toc fields near to Ripley and it also is a quality job! Stayed on their parking with electric and it cost about £2000 WILL OF Towtal was well impressed

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[Forestboy]

Modern German vans where the entire living space is centred around a fancy swivelling table, everyone touching knees behind the passenger seat. Then the rest of the interior made so narrow only one person can move around at one time. Then have the temerity to charge over £100k. Nice big garage though They can keep em.

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My feelings exactly the pic says it all.
Not just German vans though pretty much all follow the same layout one way or another.

We thought we'd found a good upgrade / replacement with the Concorde but no such luck, the lounge area was virtually identical to your pic, no good to us.
Glad we spent money on the bathroom refurbishment looks like we'll have this one another 6 or 7 years.

 

[Forestboy]

Lounging space is what convinced us to buy our Hymer B544 earlier this year , two long sofas and front swivels in the a class cab , could seat eight and gives us lots of space to put our feet up.
This model I believe is no longer produced.

Absolutely agree that's the only van we'd consider swapping ours for. We're just not ready to downsize and give up the garage yet and still got 7 years left on license so may as well make the most of it.
To be honest with what's available now I'd seriously consider another RV but one of the new breed on the Sprinter chassis, even though I dislike Mercedes.

 

[funflair]

Modern German vans where the entire living space is centred around a fancy swivelling table, everyone touching knees behind the passenger seat. Then the rest of the interior made so narrow only one person can move around at one time. Then have the temerity to charge over £100k. Nice big garage though They can keep em.

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"Coachbuilt" at a guess Jim, at least an "A class" would push the front chairs a bit further away, but still a bit tight. Thankfully ours isn't that tight

Martin

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[Jim]

"Coachbuilt" at a guess Jim, at least an "A class" would push the front chairs a bit further away, but still a bit tight. Thankfully ours isn't that tight

Martin

That's an A Class Cathargo C Tourer

 

[aldhp21]

Modern German vans where the entire living space is centred around a fancy swivelling table, everyone touching knees behind the passenger seat. Then the rest of the interior made so narrow only one person can move around at one time. Then have the temerity to charge over £100k. Nice big garage though They can keep em.

Exactly that Jim. We bought an Adria Sonic. We wanted the fixed bed with a large garage. The fixed bed was a dream and the garage we just filled with all sorts of rubbish which we never used. The compromise of the large bed was a small continental style kitchen with hardly any work surfaces and a small lounge with a big table. So we downsized and ended up with more living area, although we do have to make the bed up every night. And why do manufacturers put cupboards over bathroom washbasins so you can't wash your face within smashing your head in.

Also got to agree with @Larrynwin, the Hymer 544 is a fantastic layout.

 

[hilldweller]

And why do manufacturers put cupboards over bathroom washbasins so you can't wash your face within smashing your head in.

So many time I look and think "whoever designed this has never spent a night in a MH, let alone a few weeks".

That should be the first part of the designer's training, go spend a month in this, then "take thus gun, shoot any advertising moron who interferes with your designs".

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