3 Points and £60 fine ?? (1 Viewer)

[Larrynwin]

A week in the Peak District exploring. Yesterday in car, briefly stopped on the side of B6521 at end of line of parked cars near Hathersage to take photo. Immediately realised not wise as at beginning of double white lines and warning sign so without putting on handbrake , switching off or getting out, in total a stop of 30 secs , poss less, pulled away and carried on. In my mirror saw woman in high vis jacket run towards us then stop and appeared to be writing, possibly my reg number.
The sign says no parking, I stopped but IMO didnt park.
Wonder if a ticket is on its way??

Went back this morning to get photo.

 

[hilldweller]

I've never heard of points for a parking offence.

 

[Larrynwin]

I've never heard of points for a parking offence.

I think it's because of the double white lines, should not park where they are. But how do you define parking, I didn't switch off, apply handbrake or get out of car, I consider that stopping, not parking.
Will sweat on this one

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[buttons]

Peak District sounds like a welcoming place to visit if they employ runners to welcome you. What was the attraction around the sigh. Sounds like a sting operation.......

 

[frogijock]

As long as your wheels were turning you are not parked, and as you say you were moving when she wrote down your registration number, so it is up to them to prove you were stopped. Anyway how do they expect you to read the notice if you are moving?

 

[Sandancers]

It only says not to park parallel with the white lines, presumably therefore you'd be OK parking across the road at right angles to the lines ?

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[Larrynwin]

Peak District sounds like a welcoming place to visit if they employ runners to welcome you. What was the attraction around the sigh. Sounds like a sting operation.......

Over the wall with the horrible sign is a beautiful valley with a stream and a wooden bridge over it, all this just spitting distance from Sheffield on a sunny Sunday afternoon , the world and its mother were out yesterday so I guess they have have a problem at peak times.
I don't know if the Police contract out this kind of operation as it would in fact be a traffic offence if parked next to double white lines.

 

[Techno]

Stopping in a position that would cause another vehicle to have to cross the double whites is grossly dangerous hence the sign.

 

[Larrynwin]

As long as your wheels were turning you are not parked, and as you say you were moving when she wrote down your registration number, so it is up to them to prove you were stopped. Anyway how do they expect you to read the notice if you are moving?

I took the photo for a record of the height of the sign, with a row of cars the sign could not be seen until I pulled in which is why we left straight away.

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[pappajohn]

Your word against theirs if no photographic evidence was collected and no police presence.
thats why town traffic enforcement take photos.

I say police as it would probably be an obstruction offence (obstructing the highway), not a parking offence.

Probably some frustrated housewife with a rightous streak and nowt better to do.

 

[Larrynwin]

Stopping in a position that would cause another vehicle to have to cross the double whites is grossly dangerous hence the sign.

Yes understand that hence the immediate exit.

 

[Larrynwin]

Your word against theirs if no photographic evidence was collected.
thats why town traffic enforcement take photos.

Probably some frustrated housewife with a rightous streak and nowt better to do.

Hope so John .

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[Techno]

Yes understand that hence the immediate exit.

I hope the warden isn't a jobsworth. As you say its not until stopping that you'd read the notice. However its probably suitably defined in the highway code and the sign is to reinforce the danger.

 

[Wildbill]

was photographic evidence taken of the alleged offence of parking taken was it a police officer.
that sheep that was in front of you take a bit of time to get out of the way didn't it
do not use the photograph taken as defence you could be prosecuted for using a camera while driving
you did not stop slowed down for obstruction sun in eyes to allow vehicle to move on
bill

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

If you do get a ticket just advise that you pulled in ahead of the line of traffic as you said , saw the sign so moved on. A few seconds stopped only but certainly not parked

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[Larrynwin]

was photographic evidence taken of the alleged offence of parking taken was it a police officer.
that sheep that was in front of you tane a bit of time to get out of the way didn't it

As far as I know no photographic evidence and only seeing the person with a glance in mirror at 30/40 yards , don't think it was police, high vis but no hat.

 

[pappajohn]

Stop worrying about it.. ..nothing will come of it.

It probably was an obstruction (or similar) offence as points are involved so only enforcible by the police.

 

[pappajohn]

Photo evidence, if anything like parking, would involve a series of photos including the car as a whole including the number plate, the yellow, or in this case white, lines and the restriction sign.
They cover every aspect so theres no escape.

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[buttons]

As far as I know no photographic evidence and only seeing the person with a glance in mirror at 30/40 yards , don't think it was police, high vis but no hat.

Oh dear it gets worse Larry, resisting arrest could be added to the list of offences...

 

[Langtoftlad]

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3...4!1so0INzktQAm0u01gaYQfFiw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Was it here?
Looks to me as if they'd be hard pressed to prosecute without corroborating evidence ie photographic including an image of the double whites.

Doubt anything will come of it

 

[buttons]

I was driving in Wembley last week what a chore that is with parking cameras on almost every lamppost with no stopping let alone parking signs. Not to mention the grid lines on every junction with camera enforcement.

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[busby]

I've never heard of points for a parking offence.

If it is a solid white line your side of the double white line or parking on a zebra crossing zig zag its an endorsement i.e. 3 points but seldom enforced. BUSBY.

 

[Mel]

dont worry if it was Hathersage due to interbreading they will have forgoten your reg before they could make out a ticket.

 

[DBK]

For a moment I didn't think you could get points for bad parking but then remembered you can - stopping on the zig-zag lines at a pedestrian crossing for example. It seems the definition is "parking...in a dangerous position." There's a bit about near the bottom of this page: https://www.gov.uk/parking-tickets/paying-a-ticket
"You’ll only get penalty points on your licence for certain types of parking FPN, eg for leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position."

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[Larrynwin]

Oh dear it gets worse Larry, resisting arrest could be added to the list of offences...

They wouldn't want me in there tidy little cells, I'm smelly Buttons

 

[Larrynwin]

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3...4!1so0INzktQAm0u01gaYQfFiw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Was it here?
Looks to me as if they'd be hard pressed to prosecute without corroborating evidence ie photographic including an image of the double whites.

Doubt anything will come of it

Exactly the spot , thanks

 

[Larrynwin]

For a moment I didn't think you could get points for bad parking but then remembered you can - stopping on the zig-zag lines at a pedestrian crossing for example. It seems the definition is "parking...in a dangerous position." There's a bit about near the bottom of this page: https://www.gov.uk/parking-tickets/paying-a-ticket
"You’ll only get penalty points on your licence for certain types of parking FPN, eg for leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position."

Yes I believe that's the case, but there must be a difference between parking and stopping. .

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[pappajohn]

For a moment I didn't think you could get points for bad parking but then remembered you can - stopping on the zig-zag lines at a pedestrian crossing for example. It seems the definition is "parking...in a dangerous position." There's a bit about near the bottom of this page: https://www.gov.uk/parking-tickets/paying-a-ticket
"You’ll only get penalty points on your licence for certain types of parking FPN, eg for leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position."

But technically thats an obstruction offence, not a simple parking infringement.
All classed as 'special offences'

Doesn't stop the local police doing it when visiting the pizza shop late evening.. ..or sometimes with all four wheels on the footpath.
Doesnt show the police in a very good light !

 

[DangerMousy]

You might get a "warning" letter in the post - I know the police often work with community groups in areas where there's a speeding problem: the community group have a speed camera and record the registrations and then the police send out a letter and that's the end of it.

If anything serious does comes of it, I suggest checking with the guys on this forum: http://forums.pepipoo.com/ they're pretty good on all things motoring law and parking rules & regs.

 

[tonyidle]

I took the photo for a record of the height of the sign, with a row of cars the sign could not be seen until I pulled in which is why we left straight away.

I don't understand the need for a sign anyway. It's illegal, it applies everywhere, and it's obviously dangerous to do so.

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