Eclectics in MH (1 Viewer)

[crabman]

i don't understand this maybe someone can help, I plug the orange cable into a socket in the garage and the MH it runs a kettle and a T.V when I use the sockets in the MH, if I plug in a hoover or anything else it wont turn on, any idea what going on, anyone

thanks in advance


crabs

 

[icantremember]

Circuit breakers switched off? ??

 

[pappajohn]

If the sockets power one appliance they will power any appliance, providing it isn't rated higher than the breaker in the fuse box.
Are you trying the same socket for all items.

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[crabman]

the circuit breakers are on and I have tried both sockets to run the other items, the T.V works fine and the kettle boils from both sockets, very odd I cant work it out papa if the hoover was higher rated than the fuse box it would not boil the kettle, as boiling water from cold draws more power, ummm I scratch my head it confusing me, the mili amp breakers don't drop out , all very strange

 

[Linda and Steph]

Kettle and TV won't be affected by phase reverse but the hoover might, do you have a socket checker?

 

[pappajohn]

Have you tried the Hoover etc in the house ?
I don't mean last time it was used....I mean try it now.

It simply isn't possible to run one item but not another from the same aupply unless that appliance is faulty.

Oh, cold water doesn't draw a higher current....it simply takes longer to boil.

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[pappajohn]

Kettle and TV won't be affected by phase reverse but the hoover might, do you have a socket checker?

If Hoover's won't work on reversed polarity then Hoover don't sell anything on the European mainland...Half of Europe is reverse polarity, but unlike the UK they don't care

 

[scotjimland]

reverse polarity won't affect a vacuum cleaner.. (or anything else for that matter) .. I wish all this nonsense could be put to bed..

as papa said.... the vacuum cleaner has a broken cable, or perhaps a loose connection on the plug .. quite common on flexible cables

 

[crabman]

wife used the hoover right after I tried it out and it worked fine, and you correct papa cold water does take longer to boil I meant to say when boiling water it draws more power, still confused any other ideas members

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[MitchandJenny]

Have you tried the hoover indoors YET ???

 

[pappajohn]

I reckon you are on your own with this.
As I said...it can't power one working item but not another working item.

 

[crabman]

I agree all very odd, yes have used the hoover indoors it was fine jenny and mitch,

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[MC 55 FUN]

i don't understand this maybe someone can help, I plug the orange cable into a socket in the garage and the MH it runs a kettle and a T.V when I use the sockets in the MH, if I plug in a hoover or anything else it wont turn on, any idea what going on, anyone

thanks in advance

crabs

Check the wiring connections in the hoover plug - they may be loose.

 

[Armytwowheels]

Crabman - are you trying the hoover in the same socket as the kettle? Reason for asking is that in our van we have some sockets wired into the mains and some the inverter. It's an easy thing to do to plug into the wrong one, I do it all the time!!

 

[pappajohn]

Hoover would still run on an inverter, maybe run hot but it would run...and if it can boil a kettle it isn't too small for a Hoover.

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[Armytwowheels]

Hoover would still run on an inverter, maybe run hot but it would run...and if it can boil a kettle it isn't too small for a Hoover.

But not if the inverter was switched off, or even not there at all, it could have been removed by the previous owner.

 

[DBK]

It might be the sockets not allowing the hoover plug to make a good connection. Some sockets are pushed back a bit by the plug. You could see if a short extension lead with a different shaped plug makes any difference.

 

[pappajohn]

But not if the inverter was switched off, or even not there at all, it could have been removed by the previous owner.

But the tv and kettle do work.
Unplug kettle, plug in Hoover....no work.

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[pappajohn]

It might be the sockets not allowing the hoover plug to make a good connection. Some sockets are pushed back a bit by the plug. You could see if a short extension lead with a different shaped plug makes any difference.

Sockets and plugs have to meet CE or BS regulations.....they cannot be so different as to NOT work.

 

[maxi77]

If Hoover's won't work on reversed polarity then Hoover don't sell anything on the European mainland...Half of Europe is reverse polarity, but unlike the UK they don't care

All of Europe has the opportunity to have live/neutral reverse, but the reason they don't care is many have dual pole circuit breakers thus removing the potential for live equipment when the breaker is open

 

[pappajohn]

All of Europe has the opportunity to have live/neutral reverse, but the reason they don't care is many have dual pole circuit breakers thus removing the potential for live equipment when the breaker is open

Exactly....and Hoover's still work regardless

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[rangi]

Check the wiring connections in the hoover plug - they may be loose.

Check Plugs at BOTH ends of the lead

 

[crabman]

what I have done is got in touch with a sparks who knows about these things ( I hope) waiting for him to get back to me, i will try to remember to post what he says, I did put a metal chair in it and wired it up sat the Mother in Law in it and turned it on, not even a single tingle did she get I am cursed

 

[daveandsan]

@crabman When we had the caravan we had a hoover that used to trip the breaker every time we turned it on, luckily it had a variable speed motor and if we started on low speed and then speeded it up it would be ok. It must have been pulling a big load at start up. Could this have something to do with the problem?

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[pappajohn]

@crabman When we had the caravan we had a hoover that used to trip the breaker every time we turned it on, luckily it had a variable speed motor and if we started on low speed and then speeded it up it would be ok. It must have been pulling a big load at start up. Could this have something to do with the problem?

No....because the breaker doesn't trip at any time.

 

[daveandsan]

@pappajohn I was trying to say what a big load some hoovers can use on startup, i wouldnt think he has a caravan site breaker socket in his garage.

 

[crabman]

no big problem folks I will get the sparks to check it out, thanks for the replies all the same

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[pappajohn]

@pappajohn I was trying to say what a big load some hoovers can use on startup, i wouldnt think he has a caravan site breaker socket in his garage.

Agreed, but there is still a max 10AMP mcb for the sockets in the vans fuse box, which doesn't trip at any time.

 

[pappajohn]

no big problem folks I will get the sparks to check it out, thanks for the replies all the same

Come back here with the outcome please.
It's a proper puzzle so worth an answer.

 

[crabman]

yes i will papa come back with the answer, its a new MH to me so I could be at fault maybe not turning a switch or something as simple as that, you never know

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