gear box rebuld (2 Viewers)

[Wildbill]

I am abut to enbark on a gear box rebuld.
i have a doner gear box for the parts never done anything with gear box exept changed over knakerd on for a replacement one
So this will be a bit more indepth we nead the MH so we can viset the we mans mum as B B is turning out expensive.
And return trip back home are not practical after a days work
getting up erly the next mornig works beter for us
so I think this one will test my mechanical knowledge to the max
I have thurs fri of work night shift Saturday Sunday off.
So tight for time think a few long days ahed
Bill

 

[pappajohn]

Good luck bill, not a job to be taken lightly.

Hope you have a dial gauge and micrometer for the end play shims and spacers or it WILL whine

 

[Wildbill]

Good luck bill, not a job to be taken lightly.

Hope you have a dial gauge and micrometer for the end play shims and spacers or it WILL whine

I have micromitor and nead to get dial geuge

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[pappajohn]

You could use quality feeler gauges but a dial gauge is much more accurate.

As I said, if the end play is wrong or sloppy it will whine.

There's always sawdust though

 

[MikeD]

I never could work out how gear boxes worked Bill, even the old one on my Rudge.
Take care
Mike and Sandra

 

[Wildbill]

You could use quality feeler gauges but a dial gauge is much more accurate.

As I said, if the end play is wrong or sloppy it will whine.

There's always sawdust though

I do have a digital calipers good qwality feler guges and shim set will mesur and micromitor druring strip down taking piks and notes as l go
Thanks for the input john

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[Wildbill]

I never could work out how gear boxes worked Bill, even the old one on my Rudge.
Take care
Mike and Sandra

Worst case sinario I send it off to get fixed best case I only nead too split the diff and chang bell husing but wont know till I get it it out.
Nothing is ever easay with the bich but i will beet it sum how .
Looking forward to the challenge.
It has a grate engine
Just keeping the dreem alive
Bill

 

[pappajohn]

Whats the fault Bill ?

 

[Wildbill]

Whats the fault Bill ?

It is a selector problem sumthing has come adrift in the box stuck im first gear

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[Wildbill]

I have a doner box @papajohn but bell housing is wrong it came of talbut but gear box bit looks very simler

 

[pappajohn]

Broken selector fork or maybe the pin holding it to the selector shaft has sheared off or, more unlikely, worked it way out.
With any luck you might not have to remove the actual input, output and idler shafts providing the selector shaft is under the removable cover and not behind the gear shafts.

 

[Wildbill]

Broken selector fork or maybe the pin holding it to the selector shaft has sheared off or, more unlikely, worked it way out.
With any luck you might not have to remove the actual input, output and idler shafts providing the selector shaft is under the removable cover and not behind the gear shafts.

I will have a look before tarring it apart maybe not to terminal thanks john

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[TheBig1]

i was thinking, if you have a donor box it may be just a case of swapping over the bell housing. as i recall the gearbox on all vans that age was the same, just bell housing differs

 

[gus-lopez]

What @pappajohn suggested, the selector fork or shaft pin.

 

[DP+JAY]

I have a doner box @papajohn but bell housing is wrong it came of talbut but gear box bit looks very simler

What gearbox is it you are after?

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[Wildbill]

i was thinking, if you have a donor box it may be just a case of swapping over the bell housing. as i recall the gearbox on all vans that age was the same, just bell housing differs

Yes after inital inspectton a bellhousing swap might be the way ahead not going to rush into it lots of coffe and looking to start with you know how is

 

[Wildbill]

What gearbox is it you are after?

Fiat 2.5T D 5 speed my doner box is off a talbut bell husing wrong but gear box is the same and diff
bill

 

[berni109]

Good luck hope it is not as bad as u think

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[Wildbill]

Bit of a turn up this mornig wife has fund a manual for talbut j 5 it was in the cubord under the staers she came acros it this morning we had forgoten we hed it disel and petrole result dont know wether to kiss her or kill her I thaught it had gone years ago with our old van bit of reding to do me thinks

 

[DP+JAY]

Fiat 2.5T D 5 speed my doner box is off a talbut bell husing wrong but gear box is the same and diff
bill

Oh, pity. I've got one in my shed, but that is a Talbot one too.

 

[Wildbill]

Oh, pity. I've got one in my shed, but that is a Talbot one too.

Off a 2.5 disal

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[Geo]

Whilst I admire your attempt at a re build I have to ask the question have you tried and tested the doner box
Have you the know how to identify worn but still serviceable as opposed to worn beyond use.
most fully skilled mechanics have not got that skill
should hate to see you waste time and money on Gaskets seals bearings etc only for it to be unsatisfactory
as an example our local gearbox man would charge about £150-£200 plus parts to make a good one out of two OR £50 to tell you parts wont interchange or its all scarp!! so even we leave such tasks to those that know best
Bell housing swop and fit box complete would be my advice, go any deeper and you might need a gearbox mans help, and part stripped boxes he wont touch with a barge pole if he's any sense
are there not people like that on "Earth" were you live.
Geo

 

[DP+JAY]

Off a 2.5 disal

Yes Talbot 2.5 diesel Engine & box(removed with suspected cracked cylinder head).
Plus a whole load of other Talbot bits. Rear axle, Front suspension legs,Steering rack,column, etc. etc.

 

[Wildbill]

Whilst I admire your attempt at a re build I have to ask the question have you tried and tested the doner box
Have you the know how to identify worn but still serviceable as opposed to worn beyond use.
most fully skilled mechanics have not got that skill
should hate to see you waste time and money on Gaskets seals bearings etc only for it to be unsatisfactory
as an example our local gearbox man would charge about £150-£200 plus parts to make a good one out of two OR £50 to tell you parts wont interchange or its all scarp!! so even we leave such tasks to those that know best
Bell housing swop and fit box complete would be my advice, go any deeper and you might need a gearbox mans help, and part stripped boxes he wont touch with a barge pole if he's any sense
are there not people like that on "Earth" were you live.
Geo

I have it on good athority that the doner box is good and have fund sumeone to make one frome the two I tane onbord what you have posted and taken your advice it will be backdroping it off tomorrow it will be back Tuesday thanks @Geo

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[Wildbill]

Gear box removed and on its way to Leeds for repar

 

[Geo]

Hope it works out well for you Bill.
God Loves a Trier
and according to your missus your very trying

 

[pappajohn]

Now you can relax and enjoy your weekend instead of getting covered in gunge and oil Bill.

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[Wildbill]

The good news is I could be back today so spend a few hrs over the weekend puting it all back together

 

[Jaws]

Good luck with it Bill.. I have little doubt you will have it up and running by tea time !

 

[Wildbill]

Good luck with it Bill.. I have little doubt you will have it up and running by tea time !

Just got it back fitted new cluch last year but orderd new one any way luk one will not be her till Monday with work and visiting jay's mummy won't get it done till next week I would think

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