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If you visit Catalunya please carry a copy (or copies) of this document (besides the Spanish Instruction 08v-74). This is an official document issued by the Catalan Government and all Police are obliged to obey the content, which is an exact copy of the Spanish Instruction 08v-74.
 
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On 13 February 2008, was the closing of the Working Group
motor, which was established at the headquarters of the Traffic and
Road Safety on 18 January 2007, to comply with the motion adopted by
Senate House on 9 May 2006, in the sense of undertaking the study and
development by regulating the movement of the motor home in Spain.
Given that Spain currently has a fleet of nearly 30,000 motor
vehicles, and seen the growth of such vehicles from other countries
in Europe about 200,000 each year is needed for better regulation
issues affecting these vehicles.
Amending the Rules of general circulation, made by Royal Decree
965/2006 of 1 September abolished the specific mention in the Motor
Article 48.1 and could be interpreted that these limitations shall be in general
speed of cars, these and other issues have caused to be carried out
a compilation of all the regulatory issues involving
the autocaravanisme with instruction is the General Directorate of Traffic which
follows:
1. Concept.
Annex II of the General Rules of Vehicles, approved by Royal Decree 2822/1998, of
December 23, we define the term motor as "a vehicle constructed
special purpose, including housing accommodation, and containing at least the
following table and seats, beds or bunk beds that can be converted into seats, and kitchen cabinets
or similar. This team is rigidly fixed to the housing compartment. The seats and
the table can be designed to be easily disassembled.
This and other definitions of vehicles resulting from the transposition of
Directives in force in the field, in particular to Directive 2001/116/EC of the
Committee of 20 December 2001, for which the technology adapts al'avanç
Council Directive 70/156/EEC on the approximation of laws of
Member States regarding the approval of motor vehicles and trailers in
Point 5.1 of Section A of Annex II al'autocaravana refers to "any vehicle
Special category M manufactured to include a living area with
the following minimum equipment: seats, table, beds that can be formed by converting
seating, kitchen cabinets. This equipment is subject firmly in the area
habitable, however the table can be designed to remove it easily. "
These are vehicles of category M (motor vehicles with a minimum of four
wheels, designed and manufactured for passenger), and although the Directive
not explicitly say it can be deduced that the ability to have eight seats, as
maximum (excluding the driver), we have vehicles of category M1.
However, point 1 of Section C of Annex II of the Directive
2001/116/EC, when it comes to body types of passenger cars (M1)
Government
de Catalunya
mentions the following: limousine AA, AB limousine door behind, AC Family
( "Break"), coupé AD, AE and AF Multipurpose vehicles, not referring to the Motor
mentioned in point 1, but in point 5, in another category of vehicles that
called "special vehicles".
So, admitting that they are vehicles of category M1, the body
is not included in the rates provided for cars, but in special vehicles, the
it is not surprising since they are built on the chassis of commercial vehicles
used in common for the production of vans and light trucks, the
length usually varies between 5.50 m 8.00 me, their average height is
around 3.00 m and the maximum authorized mass is often of 3,500 Kg. and
in some cases even higher, building features that have nothing to
see through tourism and affecting their maneuverability in the distance
the braking, the behavior turns, etc..
Therefore, notwithstanding the existence of standard vans interior of which has
been conditioned homes as commonly known as a "camper", can be
concluded that motor homes are usually the "Special Vehicle category
M1, to the existence of which will inter alia, Article 2.2 of Directive
2001/116/EC of the Commission, other than cars and therefore have a
specific regulation in some aspects such as determining
speeds out of town. However, other aspects such as circulation,
stopping and parking, are governed by the rules applicable to general
all vehicles.
2. Speeds.
Article 48.1 a) of the General Traffic Regulations approved by Royal Decree
1428/2003 of 21 November sets the maximum speed on its way out of town:
a) By car:
1. On motorways and dual carriageways: cars and motorcycles 120 km / h; bus
vehicles derived from tourism and joint adaptive vehicles, 100 km / h, trucks, vehicles
articulated, tractorcamions, vans and cars with trailers up to 750 kg., 90 km / h, the
Other cars with trailer: 80 km / h.
2. In conventional senyalades roads as cars and tracks for the
other conventional roads whenever the latter have a sidewalk
Paved 1.50 meters or more wide, or more than one lane for some sense of
of movement: Cars and motorcycles 100 km / h, buses, vehicles derived from
tourism and mixed adaptive vehicles, 90 km / h; trucks, tractorcamions, vans,
articulated vehicles and cars with trailer 80 km / h.
3rd. In other ways out of town: cars and motorcycles, 90 km / h;
buses, cars derived from tourism and joint adaptive vehicles 80 km / h;
trucks, tractorcamions, vans, cars and articulated vehicles with trailer, 70
km / h.
4rt. In any type of road where the allowable movement: vehicles
tricycles and quads, 70 km / h ".
Government
de Catalunya
Being the motor of special vehicles of category M1 "of different
cars, it is considered that they are not justified to apply the same speed limits outside
settlement of such vehicles, but those that correspond to other
vehicles of category M (for the transport of people), giving rise to the following
speed limits:
- At motorway and ............................................. ................. 100 Km / h
- In conventional road signposted as roads and car
roads with a paved sidewalk at least 1.50 m or more
a lane for some of the ways the movement ............................ 90 Km / h
- In all other ways out of town ......................................... ........ 80 Km / h
These speed limits would be applicable to the motor to circulate without
trailer classified with ITV your card with the following codes:
- 3148 (mixed housing vehicle)
- 3200 (unspecified motor MMA of less than or equal to 3,500
Kg.)
- 3248 (MMA motor housing of less than or equal to 3,500 Kg.)
Moreover, the Motor classified codes:
- 3300 (unspecified motor of MMA over 3,500 kg)
- 3348 (MMA motor housing of over 3,500 kg)
- 2448 (van dwelling)
It is governed by speed limits apply to trucks (because of its mass
maximum allowed) and the other vans: 90 km / h on motorways and dual carriageways, and 80
Km / h on conventional roads.
On urban streets shall apply to all motor homes, regardless of
classification code as the other vehicles in the general speed limit
Generic 50 Km / h in accordance with Article 50 of the General Traffic Regulations.
3. Stopping and parking.
Entitled "Stop and Parking", the General Traffic Regulations governing in
its Chapter VIII (Articles 90 to 94), the rules applicable to such maneuvers,
sites on which to carry out, and so is run, placing
vehicle, bylaws and prohibited sites, which must be observed by
all vehicles in general.
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3.1 urban streets
In connection with the sites to be carried out to stop il'estacionament
on urban streets, Article 90.2 of the General Traffic Regulations indicates in his
second paragraph that will be probably to fulfill the provisions in the ordinances
dictate that the municipal authorities, in relation to Article 93 which sets the
following:
1. The system for stopping and parking in urban streets is regulated by ordinance
municipal, and will take the necessary measures to prevent entorpiment in
traffic, including time limits for the duration of parking and the
escaients corrective measures, including removal of the vehicle or its
immobilization when no title is provided to enable the parking in
Limited time zones, or exceed the authority given to that
achieve the identification of the driver.
2. In any case the bylaws may oppose, alter, distort, or
lead to confusion with the provisions of this regulation. "
One of the most frequent complaints made by users of motor
is on the parking ban applies to such vehicles or in part
all the ways that some urban councils to incorporate their
ordinances.
These regulations made under section 7 of the text based on traffic,
Movement of Vehicles and Road Safety, approved by Royal Legislative Decree 339/1990,
of March 2, which attaches to the municipalities, within the scope of this Act, a series of
powers, and between them:
B) Regulation by Municipal Ordinance Code, the use of
urban streets, supported by the equitable distribution of all parking
users with the necessary flow of traffic and the establishment of
limited parking measures, in order to ensure the rotation of
parking ,..."
It is undisputed that the exclusion of certain users should be
necessarily motivated and based on objective reasons, as will
external dimensions of the vehicle or the maximum allowed, but not by his
channel utilization or construction or for subjective reasons can be
incívics possible behaviors of some people, as night noise, outputs
od'aigües used garbage on the public, of a monopoly
public through the placement of structures or other situations of abuse against
which local authorities have effective legal tools to be
used for discrimination against all violators, whether users
motor or other vehicle.
The motor can be made to stop the maneuvers and parking in
same conditions and with the same limitations as any other vehicle.
Regarding the mode and manner of execution of the stop and the parking lot, Article 91
of the General Traffic Regulations provides that such exercises "will be
so the vehicle does not obstruct traffic or constitute a hazard to the
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other road users, particularly caring for the placement of the vehicle and preventing
to get moving in the absence of the driver. "
As for the placement of the vehicle, the article 92 of the Regulation of
Movement as follows:
1. Il'estacionament stop will be made by placing the vehicle
parallel to the edge of the road. By exception, will be another
placement when the characteristics of the road or other circumstances so
advice.
2. All drivers who stop or park your vehicle should do so
that allows better use of available space remaining.
3. In the case of a motor vehicle or motorcycle and the driver has to
leave your site, you will have noted, moreover, as in when you are
application, the following rules:
a) Stop the engine and disconnect the system boot, and if leaves the
vehicle, take precautions to prevent its use without
authorization.
b) Leave operated parking brake.
c) In a vehicle with stick shift, leaving the first-placed speed in
slope with inclination of ascent, and the way back downhill, or on
If the parking position.
d) In the case of a vehicle over 3,500 kg maximum mass
authorized, a bus or a vehicle stop and ol'estacionament
is in place with a slope, the driver will, moreover, that
left shoe it properly, either through the placement of shims, and no
you can use to order items such as stones or some other not intended to
express this function, either by leaving one of the wheels on the guidelines
curb of the sidewalk, those leaning toward the center of the road on the slopes
upward and outward in the downstream slopes. Shims, once
used, it will be removed from the roads to restart the march. "
No sets the General Traffic Regulations other conditions to be
complied with when making the arrest ol'estacionament vehicle, why is
believes that while any vehicle is parked properly, without
Road marking than the demarcation of the parking area, or limitation
the same time, if any, is not relevant that its occupants are
located within the same il'autocaravana is no exception, having enough information
that the activity can be carried out within them not to s'exterioritzi
abroad through the deployment of the documents that cross the perimeter
as vehicle stops, awnings, leveling devices, support of stabilization,
etc..
3.2 in inter-city roads
Article 90.1 of the General Traffic Regulations defines the places in which
carry out the stopping and parking in highlighting inter-city roads
to be outside the road, on the right side of this, leaving open the
part of the sidewalk passable.
Also in general motorway and the maneuvers are prohibited
stop and parking for all vehicles, except for special zones
enabled.
Government
de Catalunya
Son of the end application in inter-city roads ial'estacionament standards
concerning the form and manner of execution contained in Article 91 of General Regulation
Traffic picked up on the previous point, and the considerations made in connection
with parking on urban streets around the presence of people in
Inside the vehicle properly parked, all without prejudice to the possibility
to park in parking areas or on private land with owners
which we can agree on other conditions.
Other concepts associated somehow al'estacionament of the Motor
camping and stay at home do not have regulations on traffic movement
vehicles and road safety.
4. Use of seat belts and hand-holds.
Use of safety belts or other approved restraint systems,
properly connected, the driver and passengers of the motor, both being
urban and interurban.
The fulfillment of this obligation by certain people based on their
size and age adjusted to the following requirements:
1 .- Front Seats: Circular is prohibited under 12 in
front seats, unless they use devices approved retention. By
exceptional, and if its height is equal to or greater than 135 centimeters, the
under 12 may use a device approved by the belt itself
adult safety which are equipped with the front seats.
2nd .- Other seats: those with a height equal to 135 centimeters and not
exceeds 150 centimeters, can be used interchangeably in an approved
retention suits your height and weight and safety belt for adults than
these seats are provided.
3rd .- The Motor not provided with devices
approved security especially adapted to the size and weight of your no
can go under three years old, and three years older than that do not meet
135 centimeters, can not occupy a front seat.
These rules exclude completely the possibility of use of stretchers and beds
in a motor movement, because in addition to the obvious risk to their
occupants in the event of sudden braking, turning or collision, although if you can ocuparse
the seats are equipped with approved retention systems, provided that the number
people traveling in the vehicle, both in the cabin as the passenger in the
housing, not to exceed the legally authorized seats contained in the
vehicle documents.
Government
de Catalunya
5. Equipment.
Concerning the minimum amount that must carry the motor, as will be
laid down in Annex XII of the General Rules of the following vehicles: a game
lamps that light is forced to bring in state service and tools
change the two devices presenyalització of danger, a spare wheel or
wheel of a temporary use with the tools necessary to change a system or
alternative by changing them to provide sufficient guarantees for mobility
vehicle.
Also, when drivers leave their vehicle and take the road or pavement
in inter-city roads will have to use a reflective vest high visibility, certificate
according to Royal Decree 1407/1992 of 20 November.
6. Technical inspection.
Under the Royal Decree 711/2006 of 9 June amending
certain royal decrees relating to the technical inspection of vehicles and the approval
them, their parts and components and amending also Regulation
General Vehicles, approved by Royal Decree 2822/1998 of 23 December,
frequency of inspection of motor vehicles and property will be as follows:
Joined: - Up to four years: free
- More than four years: biennial
- More than 10 years: annual
7. Areas of service or host.
These facilities specifically designed to serve at home or
Motor providing a range of services necessary for these vehicles,
mainly: parking, water supply and the site cleared of
deposits.
Unlike the tourist camps, the areas of service provided or received
the physical space required for parking the vehicle and can be
public or private.
It is aware of the existence of some 60 facilities of its kind in Spain,
for which, by Motion passed by the Senate House on 9 May 2006
urges the Government to create a signal flow within the section on signals
service.
Without prejudice to the future design and inclusion in the catalog of official signs of a signal
indicating the specific location of a service area od'acollida is high, in
Today the signal S-122 "other services" the top official traffic signs
incorporated in Annex I of the General Traffic Regulations allow, through
inclusion of a simple pictogram, to satisfy that need.
Government
de Catalunya
8. Vehicle Transport Auxiliary.
It is very common for the transportation of motor vehicles as auxiliary can
be bicycles, mopeds or small-displacement motorcycle. This practice
is authorized as long as you use a rack or an approved
to that end, Excel and when the screening plant in the motor,
compliance with these requirements as provided by Article 15 of Regulation
General Circulation:
- That protrude from the projection of the motor plant, for the
later, up to 10% of its length, and if it is a single
vehicle, 15%.
- To take measures to prevent injury or danger to the rest
of road users, taking it to the end Sheltered
Outbound to reduce the effects of possible shocks or rubbing.
- Should signal through the signal V-20 referred to
Article 173 of the features setting, which is placed
in the far back of the cargo so that it is constantly
perpendicular to the axis of the vehicle.
Prohibited the ability to tow a motor circle tourism as
that this possibility is prohibited in Article 9.3 of the General Rules of
Vehicles which do not allow the movement of a motor vehicle towing another,
except if the vehicle is damaged or injured and can not be
transported by another vehicle, in which case it easy to transport to
Town or nearest place where it can be frozen without jeopardizing the circulation and
provided that no circle highway or road.
Notwithstanding the above, the movement of a vehicle comprising a
motor and a trailer or semi-trailer on which a transport vehicle,
is allowed if all the conditions for the circulation of the public ways
and is certified in accordance with Directives 70/156/EEC and 94/20/CEE, and also
does not exceed the maximum length authorized by these groups of vehicles, which is
18.75 meters for trailers and semitrailers by 16.50 meters.
Which communicates the knowledge of agents of the authority functions
surveillance and traffic control.

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am i to understand both documents are identical but writen in two different spanish languages ....Castellano and Catalan?

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Thanks for Google translation, Olley. I didn't translate it as it is exactly the same as the Spanish Instruction but issued by the Catalan Government confirming that the same rules and regulations apply in Catalunya as in the rest of Spain - in this case. Remember, Catalunya is legally similar to Wales or Scotland regarding laws etc. and they have their own rules and regulations

The Spanish DGT (Traffic Minister) has sent the Spanish Instruction to each and every Town Hall in Spain informing that the Instruction must be enforced and adhered to - but it is just put in a drawer and wilfully ignored. The Town Halls then draw up their own "Ordenanzas Municipales" (Local laws) and forbid the parking of motorhomes in Municipal Parkings etc (wherever a normal vehicle is allowed to park so can a motorhome) - this is completely illegal and the Instruction states that no local laws can amend or distort the content of the Instruction which is a higher law (National law).

This is the reason that we have lodged a Complaint with the EU.


am i to understand both documents are identical but writen in two different spanish languages ....Castellano and Catalan?

Pappajohn: That's like saying: "..... but written in two different English languages .... Gaelic and Welsh!" :whatthe:

The document in Catalan holds much more clout in Catalunya than the document in Castellano (Spanish) and reconfirms the legality of the Instruction - even in Catalunya!!

Hope now clear. :thumb:
 
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Hi Momo, the problem I see is that a Spanish copper says move along, you can't park here, I show him this bit of paper, he shrugs and puts his hand on his gun/stick etc., am I going to argue?? Some people might, but not me.

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thats how they get away with it .do you really think he,s going to shoot you /bash you with his stick?come on franco.s days are over. have you tried showing the papers ?i have n it worked most of the time .got ask/told to move at aguiles ,we had been there a week n it was the same guardia from 5 days before. so lets be fair we had a good time. all the other times we were left to stay. i think momo and the m,home clubs are winning the battle if only slowly. remember authority works on fear. best not get too stroppy with them though. cheers alan.

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Hi Momo, the problem I see is that a Spanish copper says move along, you can't park here, I show him this bit of paper, he shrugs and puts his hand on his gun/stick etc., am I going to argue?? Some people might, but not me.

Olley


Thats what I was thinking, is a copper realy going to stand there reading that lot while the smug fat english man (me) sits there grinning at him, unless its an official letter with a signature then it could have been concocted by anyone.
 

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believe me i used momo,s letters last winter with success. it is their law . i did let one guardia have a copy as he was very interestedhe came by next day n just waved. i gave the english one first then said wrong one then give them the spanish version ,so they knew i knew what it said. worked for me.
 
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believe me i used momo,s letters last winter with success. it is their law . i did let one guardia have a copy as he was very interestedhe came by next day n just waved. i gave the english one first then said wrong one then give them the spanish version ,so they knew i knew what it said. worked for me.


Ok thanks for that vwalan and thanks to Momo for doing this for us, although I wonder if a quick explanation of what the document does might be helpful:Blush:

Although in this instance quick might not be easy:ROFLMAO:::bigsmile:

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hi wizzer, the document lets the guardia know that we are aware that the law as been passed to allow m,homes to park with the same conditions as a normal car. if you dont put out awnings or chairs etc, you can park and sleep in your vehicle almost anywhere. its always better to be ready to move as its not good to get there back up but with a little diplomacy i got what i wanted . after all just say sorry n move if they get really stroppy.
 
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Hi Momo, the problem I see is that a Spanish copper says move along, you can't park here, I show him this bit of paper, he shrugs and puts his hand on his gun/stick etc., am I going to argue?? Some people might, but not me.

Olley

Hi Olley:

The problem is that 98% of the Spanish police haven't been informed (deliberately) about this new law. When you show it to them they are just flabbergasted! The police have to "obey" the Town Mayors but once they hear about this law they start to question things.

The Spanish version is on the official letter heading of the DGT and signed by Pere Navarro, the Minister, and every Spanish policeman knows exactly who he is! They wouldn't dream of questioning this document. (I have uploaded it onto the National & Local Police Forums and you would be amazed at their comments!)

This is the reason we have lodged a Complaint with the UE - which, incidentally, has been approved and is being processed!! ::bigsmile:

Momo.
 
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Thats what I was thinking, is a copper realy going to stand there reading that lot while the smug fat english man (me) sits there grinning at him, unless its an official letter with a signature then it could have been concocted by anyone.

Hi wizzer: The Spanish version (which you should photocopy and carry with you) is an official letter and signed by the Minister. Momo.

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