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Eve

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A solo lady I know recently went to SEARLES HOLIDAY PARK IN HUNSTANTON.
Only to be turned away for being a solo although she booked as a solo,luckily the couple she was with,said her son would be joining the party later.:wub::Smile::whistle2::whistle2:

I understand any private landowner has the right to refuse anyone,if it was a private club ,members only I could understand,but it's open to the public,and they are choosing to discriminate against people who are solo.!!:swear2::swear2:

Please make a note of the name,just in case you decide to have a break there, Annette was lucky as friends she was travelling with told a little white lie? :whistle2:So she enjoyed her weekend there.

Shame on this site SEARLES holiday park Hunstanton:moon2::moon2::moon2:
 

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Yes Nette is a friend too. They say it is in their t & c's

" 5. Only persons listed on the registration form may occupy the accommodation allocated. Searles Leisure Resort specialises in providing holidays for families with young children. While couples are welcome we do not offer accommodation that has less than four berths. We do not accept reservations from all male or all female parties unless they are a family unit. All reservations must include a person of at least 25 years of age. Single occupancy is not allowed."

this is the part they refer you to but nowehere , if my understanding is correct , does it make it plain that it includes Motorhomes, caravans or tents that will use their touring section.
I think it is an absolute disgrace , they were not informed at time of booking ( the day before) only on arrival that singles are not welcome.
 
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They did put that to them,it's seems singles might be a danger to couples!!If you go into there site friends of SEARLES it's an open site,and just read some of the replies from Lucy who representents them,it's an eye opener. I am sure some of it like not accepting same sex is discrimination .but look for yourself see what you think????

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They did put that to them,it's seems singles might be a danger to couples!!If you go into there site friends of SEARLES it's an open site,and just read some of the replies from Lucy who representents them,it's an eye opener. I am sure some of it like not accepting same sex is discrimination .but look for yourself see what you think????
Linky please.
 

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Searles T&Cs are for all units in or using the park,
http://www.searles.co.uk/contact-and-directions/terms-and-conditions/

as I read it, they make no distinction in the rules between rented accommodation and tourer/tenting pitches.. the park rules apply to all units irrespective, but some rules obviously don't apply to rented accommodation ..eg

13. You will be required to lift ground sheets to allow the grass to recover, when booking a tent pitch for more than one week. Eco friendly ground sheets are preferred on the Park.

and the rule being questioned..

All reservations must include a person of at least 25 years of age. Single occupancy is not allowed.
 
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It might just be political correctness gone mad. They may actually not want single men, perhaps having had a bad experience (in their view) but sex discrimination laws prevent them banning just males.

A bit like the recent change which prevents insurance companies loading driving policies for young men compared to young women, even though the former statistically have more and worse accidents.

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I would be happy if they gave an explanation for this rule.??
 
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They have stated there "rules" in the T+C's, yes it doesn't suit everyone but there choice?

Plenty of other places to spend your hard earned!

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To explain the situation a little more....I have posted the following link, and to add it was getting a little late on a November Sunday afternoon...so probably not as easy to just go somewhere else etc as it might have been in Summer...little choice of sites open at this time of year. And being alone albeit with Friends in another unit I wouldn't have fancied wild camping.
By the way the C&CC have been informed as they list this site for the area....and I believe are looking into it too, and may consider looking for an alternative to list. I too have contacted them.
http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/have-you-been-turned-away-not-nice.119580/

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Just to add ... We hadn't seen any terms and conditions, booked over the phone ! In fact we thought when they did start quoting T&C they meant their own static units...hope this clears up any confusion x
 

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If they want to enforce their own rules why don't they take two occupant's names at the time of booking instead of letting somebody get there and then turning them away, that's the stupid but to me, well apart from the stupid rule in the first place but they might have valid reasons for it.

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Hi Martin...it would seem the reasons are the last paragraph in the email that they send out when this is queried....they must think anyone single is a threat to society. Which is laughable as singles can join their leisure club...swim in the pool etc. there are also three entrances to the site (that I know of) that anyone can walk onto the site. Of course the price of the pitch is the same whether 1/2 or 4 people. You can see the reply they send out on the other link.

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I believe that policies saying not same sex groups are to avoid hosing hen/stag dos with the possible unruly behaviour stemming from them, not to discriminate against same sex couples. Some parks won't take groups of people below a certain age, either, in case they are unruly and don't go to bed at a reasonable time.
The not wanting solo travellers is a bit odd ... the only thing I can come up with to explain that is that they may think that people by themselves are less likely to spend money in other areas of the par, so not as financially viable as guests as couples/family units.
Either way, I think this shall be a place that we avoid - there is no reason the person taking the booking didn't mention the policy. To leave it until someone arrives and then tell them they can't stay. Ridiculous!
 
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Why worry yourself over it, they choose to not allow single occupancy, prefectly reasonable IMHO. Just go somewhere else, it really is that easy.

D.
Sorry but I think it is an awful situation to be in,you make a booking pay for it,it is accepted with no questions asked,you arrive,then you are turned away,because you are single, and you think is is reasonable behaviour :Eeek::Eeek: luckily the lady concerned was with friends.

May I ask If you where a female and single!!:reel: Or may be you have a daughter who could find herself in this position! Would you honestly be happy about it ???:rofl::rofl:
 

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Why worry yourself over it, they choose to not allow single occupancy, prefectly reasonable IMHO. Just go somewhere else, it really is that easy.

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It's not reasonable at all Dave, it's discrimination and guaranteed to make someone feel 2nd class, not part of general society, an outcast..... I could go on.

Unless you have been in that situation you cannot know how awful it is to be deemed different. It may be in the companies policy but that doesn't make it right and doesn't mean it should not be challenged.

As for going somewhere else, I will certainly be voting with my feet and wouldn't dream of staying there after this. Will also be looking closer and t&c's for any other parks or sites that might have this stupid rule. I am not single but there is a principle at stake here.

@Briarose one things for sure if you stick to the C@CC or CC they do not discriminate, in fact you get a reduced rate as you pay per person. When you get your confidence up just make your way across the water to warmer climbs, no such nonsense going on over here, that we know of anyway.

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It's not reasonable at all Dave, it's discrimination and guaranteed to make someone feel 2nd class, not part of general society, an outcast..... I could go on.

Unless you have been in that situation you cannot know how awful it is to be deemed different. It may be in the companies policy but that doesn't make it right and doesn't mean it should not be challenged.

As for going somewhere else, I will certainly be voting with my feet and wouldn't dream of staying there after this. Will also be looking closer and t&c's for any other parks or sites that might have this stupid rule. I am not single but there is a principle at stake here.

@Briarose one things for sure if you stick to the C@CC or CC they do not discriminate, in fact you get a reduced rate as you pay per person. When you get your confidence up just make your way across the water to warmer climbs, no such nonsense going on over here, that we know of anyway.

Thankyou...it means a lot to get support. Like you say when you are in this situation it does hurt. And whilst it is easy for folk to just brush it off its a whole new world to me without my Husband of 40 years. I believe the C&CC are aware of this and as Searles is listed for the area, they are re looking at the listing allegedly x
 
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Sorry but I think it is an awful situation to be in,you make a booking pay for it,it is accepted with no questions asked,you arrive,then you are turned away,because you are single, and you think is is reasonable behaviour :Eeek::Eeek: luckily the lady concerned was with friends.

May I ask If you where a female and single!!:reel: Or may be you have a daughter who could find herself in this position! Would you honestly be happy about it ???:rofl::rofl:

This my first year solo in a M/H. I have loads more confidence driving than I had before, BUT it would be severely dented it that had happened to me. This is why we Solos MUST stick together.
 
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We should not have to stick together, I personally do seek out solo company as couples usually have trips planned and that's fine and I understand it .
When I go to meets,if it's a big one I ask to be put near solo,s because when you have a 100 vans they are hard to find.
I think just to be treated as a normal human being is enough for me,I do like smaller meets as it is easier to get to know people.

I am at Calpe in Spain at the moment,loving the sunshine,Armytwowheels is here,does a lovely G&T,other Brits here,but you would think I spoke a different language ,:Eeek: talk to the Germans and French,at least they know how to say good morning.!
He ho ,we are all different,may be its my doggy buggy :Eeek: ,these things are very small in the enjoyment of enjoying life.:party2:

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I've read this, and the other post and I can see both sides of the 'argument'.

The site can make its own rules so long as it has reasons to do it and it is not illegal or sex discriminatory - it seems plausible that the 'no solos' rule its due to the risk of paedophiles / sexual preditors (a threat against children and/or adults) staying on the site as I assume in the vast majority of cases these type of 'people' (and I use the word loosely!) act alone.

I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance that they will change the rule at all - they are between a rock and a hard place - how do they know that the cuddly old gentleman is not an 'offender' and, unfortunately, a lovely older lady for the same reason ... where do they draw the line - let in someone who's 57 but not 55? The only thing they can do if they want to keep the rule is to NOT make any exceptions - can you imagine how the reception staff would feel if they did and the person they'd let in then abused a child ... they have the rule in my view in order to give families with children some 'security' that the site is trying to make it difficult for offenders to stay there and hopefully have a safer environment for the family to relax and enjoy themselves on holiday - they are the vast majority of their clientel and so it makes financial sense - at the end of the day they are a business.

Now for the specific situation that happened - the site was TOTALLY AND UNEQUIVICALLY WRONG in that they did not make it clear at the time of the phone booking that this rule applied and could not be waived. To refer you to the T&Cs on the website is wrong as not everyone has access to it and it appears not to be 'obvious'. This situation could easily have never occurred had they asked, at the time of booking, how many people were staying in each unit booked - a simple enough thing to do and I would have thought required for fire/safety recording.

To Briarose - I am so sorry that this happened and can empathise with you over it, but do not let this incident affect you - mark it down as just a bit of 'education' as all it has done is make you aware that some sites have this policy so you won't find yourself in this situation again. It would have been even worse if this had happened when you were not with friends but on your own, at least they were there with you and able to tell a 'porky' so you could stay.

Put it down to experience - after what you've had to go through previously it is just a blip ... so they won't get your business anymore, that's their loss - there are lots of other places out there to stay so get out and enjoy them girl! (y)
 

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Why worry yourself over it, they choose to not allow single occupancy, prefectly reasonable IMHO. Just go somewhere else, it really is that easy.

D.
I think it's more the fact that they should not have taken the booking, not wait till someone turns up and then refuse them
From a woman's point of view, it's humiliating and embarrassing, and from this lady's point of view, very distressing as only recently lost her husband.
 
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Above post made me think. As 80% of children who are abused are abused by a family member perhaps we should be wary of 'family only sites'
I am not a single motorhomer, but do travel on my own and sometimes with friends, have come a cross the 'no same sex groups' ruling on a few sites, who advertise as being family friendly, what if the family is a same sex couple?
I for one will be looking very closely at any site rules before i visit. Would be devastating to get the courage to go it alone and then be turned away. was referring to Minxy girls post

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Fred West and Rose springs to mind , I think the world has gone mad if they think perverts are around every corner,I would imagine a pervert would more likely look for a job their ,as grooming takes time.
I just never imagined as a single that this treatment would exist ,put it on the solo section to make solo,s aware! In future I will certainly be thinking twice before I make any bookings,I will make sure they know I am a solo traveller if this policy is as wide spread as people say.
 
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We should not have to stick together, I personally do seek out solo company as couples usually have trips planned and that's fine and I understand it .
When I go to meets,if it's a big one I ask to be put near solo,s because when you have a 100 vans they are hard to find.
I think just to be treated as a normal human being is enough for me,I do like smaller meets as it is easier to get to know people.

I am at Calpe in Spain at the moment,loving the sunshine,Armytwowheels is here,does a lovely G&T,other Brits here,but you would think I spoke a different language ,:Eeek: talk to the Germans and French,at least they know how to say good morning.!
He ho ,we are all different,may be its my doggy buggy :Eeek: ,these things are very small in the enjoyment of enjoying life.:party2:

Hi Eve May be "Stick together" was a bit to strong, however, I do think solos are in the minority. I enjoy traveling and meeting other's, I always stay on CC sites which are fine, but also quite often on private ones and don't want to worry before I arrive if they are going to turn me away.
 

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Anyone travelling in Spain and arriving at the camperstop in Totana will have no worries about arriving solo, as a couple, as a family or with dogs, cats or parrots (or anything in between) so long as everybody(thing) is well behaved all are welcome.

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